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Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

Yes, will be hard for time to unify not only because of his age but boxing politics as well. And his boss might have a hard time negotiating against Shakur as he is no longer with Top Rank or left Bob Arum already. And then against Tank Davis, we might want to be the A-side against Loma.

At least Loma finally gets a 135 lbs, hard to see him crying when he lost against Haney.

But this time, he won and can finally have that tears of joy.
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Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.
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Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.
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Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.
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Vasiliy Lomachenko vs George Kambosos

I didn't watch this fight live, but I was able to watch a replay of the fight, and it's better to watch a replay of a fight because the person knows that they won the fight, so when the person is watching the replay of the fight they are just trying to understand why the fighter x won, the surprise factor would be lost. But anyway, from what I could see from the replay of the fight, Vasiliy Lomachenko seemed to me to be in control of the rhythm of the fight from the beginning, he was in an attacking position most of the time, but George Kambosos Jr. was also fighting well in the first few rounds, I was in a defensive position waiting for Vasiliy Lomachenko to attack and then make a quick counter attack, but as time went by, Vasiliy Lomachenko was throwing more punches at George Kambosos Jr., it was visible on George Kambosos' face Jr. that Vasiliy Lomachenko's punches were causing him damage and the longer the fight went on, the more George Kambosos Jr.'s situation became bad





'This guy is one of the best of all time,' Kambosos said after the bout.

'We tried our best, but he's a good champion. He deserves that belt. I gave it my all.

'I'm still alive, I'm still standing. I ain't dead.'



source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-13408733/Vasily-Lomachenko-defeats-Australian-George-Kambosos-world-title-showdown-deserves-belt.html

knowing how to recognize defeat and congratulate the opponent, is something that all athletes should do, but currently few athletes do this because of marketing, after they lose fights they show more radical attitudes towards the opponent to generate a lot of attention in the media and brand themselves. a revenge.

Congratulations Vasiliy Lomachenko
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Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.
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Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

I think that is a bad style matchup for Tank. The only reason Loma hasn’t been more dominant at lightweight, like he was in lower divisions, is because he is always at a size disadvantage. With Loma being taller than Tank, he will be able to use his angles and distance more effectively. Tank will get easily outboxed, his only chance is to land a big knockout punch. I only wish Tank had this desire to fight Loma when Loma was younger, but he blatantly ducked him and his promoter Floyd as well as Leonard Ellerbe came up with all kinds of stupid excuses why they wouldn’t make the fight.

If Tank is actually serious about wanting this fight, it can easily be made with one phone call by Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh. We will see if Al Haymon will actually allow it or if we’ll be seeing Tank against another in-house cherry pick after he beats Frank Martin.

That's what I want to see so Loma's name will be at the conversation again because he slowly losses his popularity after he got defeated by Lopez, but now that he is the champion again, he can go with anyone as Loma doesn't his opponent, ducking opponent is not his game. Maybe Tank or probably a rematch with Lopez would be fine, both would produce a firepower fight and the fans would love it.
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@serjent05. If the body punches of Kambosos during rounds 1 to 5 became effective against Lomachenko, I reckon this might have given him a chance. However, beginning on the 6th round, Lomachenko began to be more aggressive and I was very shocked that he was continuing this until the technical knockout on the 11th round.

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.
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Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?
Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.

I also thought that the fight would end via decision but was surprised when Kambosos fell on his knee after a body shot.  It was a great fight and it is great to see Loma's tactical moves dominating the fight.  It is great to see him holding a title again.


That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.


Lomachenko still possesses that matrix-like move that we come to know I cannot keep up with my eyes with his movement, very fast and quick Kambosos cannot keep up; he tries everything but to no avail until Loma finds an opening in the 11th round it was a masterful performance.

Loma is too much for Kambosos, not a single thought that Kambosos will win against Loma if the fight ends up in a decision, I only think of Kambosos winning if he landed a lucky punch that will render Loma unable to continue but it happens the other way around.

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It feels good man when Loma wins as he deserves it! He still has his mojo despite being 36 years old, I wonder if he still wants to compete again after this...

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?
Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.
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Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

I think that is a bad style matchup for Tank. The only reason Loma hasn’t been more dominant at lightweight, like he was in lower divisions, is because he is always at a size disadvantage. With Loma being taller than Tank, he will be able to use his angles and distance more effectively. Tank will get easily outboxed, his only chance is to land a big knockout punch. I only wish Tank had this desire to fight Loma when Loma was younger, but he blatantly ducked him and his promoter Floyd as well as Leonard Ellerbe came up with all kinds of stupid excuses why they wouldn’t make the fight.

If Tank is actually serious about wanting this fight, it can easily be made with one phone call by Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh. We will see if Al Haymon will actually allow it or if we’ll be seeing Tank against another in-house cherry pick after he beats Frank Martin.
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That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.


Lomachenko still possesses that matrix-like move that we come to know I cannot keep up with my eyes with his movement, very fast and quick Kambosos cannot keep up; he tries everything but to no avail until Loma finds an opening in the 11th round it was a masterful performance.

Nothing has changed in Loma. A healthy Loma can beat anybody; it's better for Loma to avenge his losses against Haney, Let's see what's stored for Loma after this fight.
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Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.



It's the Loma that we used to know fast and accurately and had a very good movement in the ring, the timing is so perfect he can get his punch in without getting hit when going out, I just knew in the first three rounds that this is Loma's fight and its a matter of time before he totally dominate the fight.

Now everyone wants Loma, Shakur, and Tank want to have a piece of Loma now, and at 36 years old and still with that performance, he can still keep up with young generations of fighters.
Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

And with Kamboso's loss, he will need to think if he wants to continue fighting, he will end up as a gatekeeper for the champions. If he will continue, it's now three in a row for Loma, and this does not look good for his reputation as a boxer.

I think Kambosos will continue to fight, but only in Australia, and if there's no big offer, he will eventually retire this year.

We've talk about this before the fight that he needs to win this fight of his career is over. Not totally over though, but being a ex-champion and just fighting a low rank boxer, there's no more excitement on that, unless he'll stay to make consistent money.
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Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.



It's the Loma that we used to know fast and accurately and had a very good movement in the ring, the timing is so perfect he can get his punch in without getting hit when going out, I just knew in the first three rounds that this is Loma's fight and its a matter of time before he totally dominate the fight.

Now everyone wants Loma, Shakur, and Tank want to have a piece of Loma now, and at 36 years old and still with that performance, he can still keep up with young generations of fighters.

And with Kamboso's loss, he will need to think if he wants to continue fighting, he will end up as a gatekeeper for the champions. If he will continue, it's now three in a row for Loma, and this does not look good for his reputation as a boxer.

I think Kambosos will continue to fight, but only in Australia, and if there's no big offer, he will eventually retire this year.

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Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?
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Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.
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The undercards is already on and in the next few hours the main event will be next.

For those who wants to watch fight live for free, see below youtube link and also note that this coverage will only be available for Philippine and Ukraine viewers.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDKMx_BA5n8
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That was intense, but this was more intense, both guys could do this the whole day,
George Kambosos and Vasyl Lomachenko Weigh-in
No one wants to blink, as if both fighters have a bet on who will blink first I have never seen an intense face-off like this; these two buys are no talks, but I'm sure there will be a lot of actions, it good to know that it will stream free here in my location, the stakes are too high for both fighters and they know it so we expect a very good fight and it all started with this stare down  Cheesy Cheesy

Yes, it's more intense than the first one, and I think they started this whole trend and set the bar high for a face-off hehehe. So I would imagine Fury vs Usyk during their stare-down and for sure they want to break the record of Loma and Kambosos.

There's also another fight, I forgot, it was all over Twitter having also a long and very intense stare-down.

But the real thing is what we all wanted to see, a great fight between this two and then Loma emerging in a decision win.
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That was intense, but this was more intense, both guys could do this the whole day,
George Kambosos and Vasyl Lomachenko Weigh-in
No one wants to blink, as if both fighters have a bet on who will blink first I have never seen an intense face-off like this; these two buys are no talks, but I'm sure there will be a lot of actions, it good to know that it will stream free here in my location, the stakes are too high for both fighters and they know it so we expect a very good fight and it all started with this stare down  Cheesy Cheesy
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I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.

Same here, i don't this fight will end up in a draw and for me Loma will win with a wide margin decision. Lomachenko is better that Haney who punished Kambosos in two fights, that argument is enough to convince me that this fight is for Loma to win and Bob Arum is already preparing for his next fight against Shakur.

It could be, but not buying though the triangle theory in boxing. But in any case, if Loma is superior in terms of boxing skills, no doubt that he will win by a wide decision. But we forget that George Kambosos as well scored a upset win against Teo Lopez.

So anything is still up in the open for George, although a huge underdog, fighting at home again, it might be a different mindset for him and as we have said, this is a do or die match or a must win for him.

He should have that kind of mindset, "do or die" for his carreer as a loss here means a big loss for his future. Despite of the successive losses, he is still lucky to have this big fight and all he has to do is to impress the fans again so he will go back to the top.

Of course, anything could happen as we will never forget that Kambosos is the one who beat the fighter that beat Loma.

This is a great fight for sure, but Loma is gonna win this fight.
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