Topic: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title - page 4. (Read 1341 times)

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,



Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

It's more on the mindset of Loma. In his last fight which he unfortunately lost to Haney, we've seen that he can still fight even at his age. And there are no wear and tear on Loma as he was late when he join the pro ranks but was privilege to be given a chance to fight for the belt early in his career. And he is a huge favorite in this fight, so yeah, he might win here. I also read some twitter post that Loma is still the best 135 lbs, his ranking is even higher than Tank or even Shakur, although there could be arguments in that. But we know that Tank is only a paper champion, doesn't want to risk his 0, and then Shakur a boring fighter.

I have no doubt that he will win here as his opponent seemed declining as well. It's the first step of the test, once he win and he gets another shot with a champion and win, then that's the time to conclude that he still has not pass his prime. 36 years is still not old in boxing, in fact Mayweather retired when he was already 41 but was still undefeated.

Loma might loss to Haney, but a boxer who had that kind of fight against a very quick Haney is already considered a great boxer, and besides, the fight ended up as a controversial fight which some believe he wins, so the respect is still there.

Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,


https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

It's because Loma started late in his career, he was like 26 years old when he had his first fight. It was due to him staying in the amateurs for too long, however, he was a very decorated amateur boxer, winning golds at at the 2008 and 2012 Summer Games at featherweight and lightweight.

Fight for the belt against Oscar Salido in this second fight, but Salido was a dirty fighter and fouled Loma several times and experienced his first defeat as a pro-fighter. Been FOTY twice as well.

But then again, lost to Teo and then to Haney, would have been cemented his legacy even further if he had beaten this two young fighters. But he still has a chance against George Kambosos, might be a good gauge for us boxing fans if Loma still have it even at his age.

I highly agree with your statement.  I saw how finesse Lomachenco moves is compared to the rough movement of Kambosos.  I think there is a huge difference between the technical skill of these two boxers having Lomachenco on the advantage.

I think there is a slim chance for this fight to end in a knockout so boxing fans can enjoy the whole boxing round watching the two boxers' performance.  I think that this fight will end in a unanimous decision in favor of Lomachenco.



Sometimes we wish great boxers lived in the same era so that we can see more clearly who is greater among them.  But that is just the thing goes, all we can do is to speculate on who is better when great boxers appear in different eras.

Aside from that, the boxing career does not mold by the boxer's alone, their promoter and manager plays a huge part on how they can make their boxer great by pressing fights that will make their boxer looks impressive and avoiding fights that can make their boxer lose.

We can see it on how Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao scheduled their next opponent or create fight scenario to make them at an advantage while making them look as underdog.  In Manny Pacquiao's career, he fights in a catchweight where he makes himself looks underdog while having an advantage since their bigger opponent is severely dehydrated while meeting the qualifying weight, while Mayweather cherry picks his opponent wisely.

He already had some solid legacy in boxing, and I think he will be in the HOF in the future. And he is still carving out his own legacy. I might say that Loma could be slowing down, but still though elite boxers has still one good fight in their bag and I think this could be for Loma. He will become a world champion again if he defeats Kambosos so that will be enough motivation to at least pursue his dreams. And for the record, he is the most successful amateur boxer in history, and won championship belt from featherweight, super-featherweight, and lightweight, and trying to regain his belt again at 135 lbs.

Everyone has their own opinion but you maybe correct that Mayweather and Pacman are on a different level as they are a hall of famer. We can make a survey now and ask people who are the top 10 boxers, I'm pretty sure Mayweather and Pacman names are always in the list. However, Loma is still active, he can still improve his achievements and make his own legacy in boxing. Of course, some are saying that he is not anymore on his prime, so Loma has to proved in his fight by beating Kambosos impressively and be a champ once again.

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.


Of course, and I'm sure this challenge is not tough compared to his upcoming fight if he wins here.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

Possible, but I think he might be looking for another big fight, perhaps Shakur Stevenson. Shakur's name has surface as a possible opponent on who ever wins this fight and so that will be a great fight. And for sure, there could be money in the table for Loma to reconsider his options and not to retire as he can clean up the division after he become a champion again. And we wanted to see more of his fight, I think he can still have like a good 2-3 fights before he decided to hang up his gloves for good. For Kambosos part, if he wins then he can regain his old belt and again, will go after Shakur Stevenson as well because that is the fight that make sense.

If Loma will win on this fight, he may possibly announce his retirement. This will be very good for his boxing career. Not many boxers retired with a victory on their hand. So if he managed to win, better hang the gloves. Unless, he has other plans to take.
As of now, Loma is the favourite here. But I am guessing, as the date is getting nearer, the gap between them will also be near with each other. 

Yes, we will see what's left of Loma in this fight. If he looks old, or at least our definition of no longer in his prime, can't pull the trigger, hittable or no defense at all, or no longer the hi-tech Loma, then it could be over for him.

So George will have to take advantage of it, and really test how Loma is at this point. I'm also not hearing of Loma's trainer? Is he still guided by his father/trainer? I don't want to speculate what happen to his father though.

Lots of speculation at this stage about Loma's next possible fight, that's a big disrespect to Kambosos who is trying to be at the top again. Let's take it one step at a time, Shakur is great, no question about that but Loma still has something to offer, and I think if he will ever face Shakur, he has s shot of winning like what he did to Haney which ended in a controversial decision by the way.

Loma vs Kambosos, this is the fight to discuss now, after this, we can proceed on our individual speculations.

Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision.

As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos.

He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know.

I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.

He can't change the course of history mate, it's his duty first before boxing. I think when he come back he still have flushes of his old self. But we have to take into consideration the age as well of Loma, maybe he will not agree or some of us as well here will disagree with me, but it could have affected him as he is not getting any younger and then the quality of his opponents are getting better and better. Let's find it out against Kambosos, with the championship on the line, he could be well motivated again to become a champion and others boxers too are waiting for him for legacy fights like Shakur Stevenson, another Top Rank fighter. So if Loma will win then I'm seeing Arum matching him with Stevenson at the end of the year.

Probably, that's one of the reasons, but what happened has already happened. Loma just needs to accept that and still try to be his best as he chooses to continue his career. He is not done yet as he has another opportunity to prove to the world that he can still become a champion again and continue fighting, bringing that hype again.

I just wish that if he wins this, he could have another fight against a fighter that bookies would give a 50/50 chance, not like this one where he is the heavy favorite.

I think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows.

In the Haney fight, he try to make a comeback, just like in the Teo fight, but he fell short. He shouldn't be like feeling his opponents early and not let them gain confidence and him mounting a bounce back late in the rounds. So against Kambosos he shouldn't fall for that strategy again.