[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 40.

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I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

At least Errol Spence Jr. is not as trash talker like Keith Thurman that almost going below the belt before the fight.

and cries after the fight lol.

He is also a trash talker, maybe not at par with Keith Thurman but they needed that in order to ensure that it will attract people's attention to watch the fight live and to buy their PPV subscription. It doesn't matter to us anyway, we just want to see an entertaining fight and we understand that "trash talking" is just part of the game.

That is part of the advertising strategy to make abnormal statements against each other so the media will have their front pages before the fight and this will also attract Fans and bettors to wait for the fight.
But lets see if their punches is much stronger than their mouth.

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If it will end up a draw, we can expect a rematch then they can still continue to make money. We like to see an entertaining fight, and honestly, I don't really see a draw result if it will go to the distance, it will be in Manny's favor as he throws more punches as more mobile than Spence Jr.

That will be a different ending which I'm thinking. If a rematch would come next whether a draw or a winner through UD or TKO, that will take time. Pacman's usual rematch has been taking time and it won't come by a quick glance. If Pacman still wants to fight, I think this will be after the presidential election and he's still wanting to make some money from it. But just the usual rematches, it might take years before it happens again but for me, I'm not thinking about any rematch for these two. I hope that he just settles and retires with his record of owning a lot of titles and that's already good for him to enjoy his wealth through things that he wants but with his ambition, he's going to continue with his political career.

I'm not sure if there is a rematch clause, or something to see another fight in an event of a draw.

Nevertheless, I don't see it happening, Spence wanted to prove himself and so is Manny. So they are going at it in this fight and see who has more heart and balls to win this fight. If Spence win then he can go and chance Crawford, if Pacquiao loses then he can still chance the Presidency in his native country.

That's what I'm also seeing. But before we end up with that conclusion of having a rematch, let's just focus on the upcoming match and it's good that somebody has taken the offer or both of them cater to have a match which wasn't really expected by most fans before because there's someone who's thought of more of the opponent of Pacman and not Spence. Whoever wins this match, I'm sure that we're going to have fun and as we approach, the odds will be shown and it's better to look close to the days of the match. But there's still a lot of news for this match, 2 months is still a long way to go.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 15, 2021, 07:53:47 AM

If it will end up a draw, we can expect a rematch then they can still continue to make money. We like to see an entertaining fight, and honestly, I don't really see a draw result if it will go to the distance, it will be in Manny's favor as he throws more punches as more mobile than Spence Jr.

That will be a different ending which I'm thinking. If a rematch would come next whether a draw or a winner through UD or TKO, that will take time. Pacman's usual rematch has been taking time and it won't come by a quick glance. If Pacman still wants to fight, I think this will be after the presidential election and he's still wanting to make some money from it. But just the usual rematches, it might take years before it happens again but for me, I'm not thinking about any rematch for these two. I hope that he just settles and retires with his record of owning a lot of titles and that's already good for him to enjoy his wealth through things that he wants but with his ambition, he's going to continue with his political career.

I'm not sure if there is a rematch clause, or something to see another fight in an event of a draw.

Nevertheless, I don't see it happening, Spence wanted to prove himself and so is Manny. So they are going at it in this fight and see who has more heart and balls to win this fight. If Spence win then he can go and chance Crawford, if Pacquiao loses then he can still chance the Presidency in his native country.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 15, 2021, 07:53:47 AM

If it will end up a draw, we can expect a rematch then they can still continue to make money. We like to see an entertaining fight, and honestly, I don't really see a draw result if it will go to the distance, it will be in Manny's favor as he throws more punches as more mobile than Spence Jr.

That will be a different ending which I'm thinking. If a rematch would come next whether a draw or a winner through UD or TKO, that will take time. Pacman's usual rematch has been taking time and it won't come by a quick glance. If Pacman still wants to fight, I think this will be after the presidential election and he's still wanting to make some money from it. But just the usual rematches, it might take years before it happens again but for me, I'm not thinking about any rematch for these two. I hope that he just settles and retires with his record of owning a lot of titles and that's already good for him to enjoy his wealth through things that he wants but with his ambition, he's going to continue with his political career.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 14, 2021, 06:15:05 AM

Pacman speed is amazing, we all know that hehe but the only thing that I will closely watch during the fight is his stamina and endurance.

In his last fight against Thurman, he seemed gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight in which Thurman came back to make it a close fight. I watched every Pacman fight since Barrera and that is the notable change that I have seen in him, he seemed to pause and take a breather.

Being a compatriot, my heart is for Manny but my wallet is not hehe.

Age is catching up with him and what i am impressed is that even at this age of 40 plus he still is the best in the business, if he was in his prime there is no way all of these champions will have a chance against him because he was way way faster than anyone he faced and he used to get the knockout because his opponents do not see the punch coming and he was that fast and that too against elite fighters.

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I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

At least Errol Spence Jr. is not as trash talker like Keith Thurman that almost going below the belt before the fight.

and cries after the fight lol.

He is also a trash talker, maybe not at par with Keith Thurman but they needed that in order to ensure that it will attract people's attention to watch the fight live and to buy their PPV subscription. It doesn't matter to us anyway, we just want to see an entertaining fight and we understand that "trash talking" is just part of the game.

We can check Spence tweeter to verify if he is trash talking or not, regardless, it's not new to the business, every time there's a big fight, trash-talking really helps to sell the fight, even Pacquiao understands it, so we also not have to be sensitive on it, just let them fight and prove their words, after all, they are professionals and they both make big money.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 14, 2021, 06:45:42 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 14, 2021, 09:38:46 AM

I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

At least Errol Spence Jr. is not as trash talker like Keith Thurman that almost going below the belt before the fight.

and cries after the fight lol.

He is also a trash talker, maybe not at par with Keith Thurman but they needed that in order to ensure that it will attract people's attention to watch the fight live and to buy their PPV subscription. It doesn't matter to us anyway, we just want to see an entertaining fight and we understand that "trash talking" is just part of the game.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 14, 2021, 06:45:42 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 14, 2021, 09:38:46 AM

I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

At least Errol Spence Jr. is not as trash talker like Keith Thurman that almost going below the belt before the fight.

and cries after the fight lol.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 15, 2021, 01:38:30 AM

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@bisdak40. This video would show that father time does not matter for Pacman hehe. His speed never went away. He might also be one of these special athletes similar to Tom Brady. Brady is 43 years old and he carried his team to win the superbowl hehe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0ksV6ylM8

Pacman speed is amazing, we all know that hehe but the only thing that I will closely watch during the fight is his stamina and endurance.

In his last fight against Thurman, he seemed gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight in which Thurman came back to make it a close fight. I watched every Pacman fight since Barrera and that is the notable change that I have seen in him, he seemed to pause and take a breather.

Being a compatriot, my heart is for Manny but my wallet is not hehe.

It might not only be him gassing out, it might also be his knees. They were not as springy as during the beginning of that fight. However, agreed! Similar to Thurman, rounds 1 to 5 advantage might be for Pacman and the next rounds will be for Spence. Politics and corruption might make this fight end on a draw hehehehe.

If it will end up a draw, we can expect a rematch then they can still continue to make money. We like to see an entertaining fight, and honestly, I don't really see a draw result if it will go to the distance, it will be in Manny's favor as he throws more punches as more mobile than Spence Jr.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 14, 2021, 06:15:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 13, 2021, 10:47:36 PM

@bisdak40. This video would show that father time does not matter for Pacman hehe. His speed never went away. He might also be one of these special athletes similar to Tom Brady. Brady is 43 years old and he carried his team to win the superbowl hehe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0ksV6ylM8

Pacman speed is amazing, we all know that hehe but the only thing that I will closely watch during the fight is his stamina and endurance.

In his last fight against Thurman, he seemed gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight in which Thurman came back to make it a close fight. I watched every Pacman fight since Barrera and that is the notable change that I have seen in him, he seemed to pause and take a breather.

Being a compatriot, my heart is for Manny but my wallet is not hehe.

It might not only be him gassing out, it might also be his knees. They were not as springy as during the beginning of that fight. However, agreed! Similar to Thurman, rounds 1 to 5 advantage might be for Pacman and the next rounds will be for Spence. Politics and corruption might make this fight end on a draw hehehehe.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 14, 2021, 06:45:42 PM

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I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

If thats the thing then the fight is not that exciting like what those Manny's fight in the previous?

there had been like the restless fight of Pacquiao over the years.

though I am still looking for Manny's win in this fight.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 14, 2021, 06:45:42 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 14, 2021, 09:38:46 AM

I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

Well that's what we wanted to see Manny do against Thurman. Manny starting strong in the first half of the fight and just hold Spence in the latter part. Spence is known for being a slow starter, so Manny can take advantage of it by using his experience and his hand speed to make Spence unbalance and very uncomfortable. But Manny needs to be very cautious and not go for the knock out as he might get countered. Just controlled aggressiveness will do it for him.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 14, 2021, 09:38:46 AM

I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

Expecting this too because I'm now biased.

A good strategy is to just maintain gaining points each round. No need to Knockout Spence but if there's a chance why not.

Not like before that Manny is aiming always at KO if possible. He's more careful now as being aggressive is taking too heavy loads on his body.

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I read some articles displaying the odds of this fight, but I could not find any in one of our favorite sportsbooks here. They have not listed the odds yet and I'm sure the odds might change once it's out as with that odds, for sure a lot of bettors would take that as they still believe that Manny would win.

Errol Spence Jr is a heavy favorite at -400 and even the pundits think that Manny Pacquiao will be defeated in this fight and his odds are +300.
I still want to see the best version of Manny Pacquiao and if he needs to win he needs to knockout out Errol Spence Jr and if it goes to a decision i doubt the judges will give the decision to Manny Pacquiao.

I don't see a KO on this fight, IMO, this fight will end in 12 rounds because Manny is not anymore as careless or aggressive in the past that he want to KO an opponent. He himself knows his limitation, he is not getting any younger, since he is faster than Spence, he can use that advantage to win most of the rounds while Spence would struggle to hit a moving target.

I don't know but we might see the same result of the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 14, 2021, 08:39:53 AM

I read some articles displaying the odds of this fight, but I could not find any in one of our favorite sportsbooks here. They have not listed the odds yet and I'm sure the odds might change once it's out as with that odds, for sure a lot of bettors would take that as they still believe that Manny would win.

Errol Spence Jr is a heavy favorite at -400 and even the pundits think that Manny Pacquiao will be defeated in this fight and his odds are +300.
I still want to see the best version of Manny Pacquiao and if he needs to win he needs to knockout out Errol Spence Jr and if it goes to a decision i doubt the judges will give the decision to Manny Pacquiao.

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That's the only advantage of Spence, lol.. I'm maybe a little bias here but if Spence could not hit Pacquiao with clean shots, Pacquiao will be able to maintain his stamina and he will win the fight. Well, I would not think a lot, I would still bet on Pacquiao to win because the odds are very attractive.

Opening Odds are really attractive in favour of Pacquiao with +350 considering the chances for Pacquiao to win the match is not quite low.
Spence for sure doesn't want to underestimate the post prime Pacquiao like Thurman did. He'll probably be intimidated until he doesn't test Pacquiao's punch first.
It has been 2 years since Pacquiao last fought, but he said in the interview that he isn't worried about the length of time he spent without any fight because his body needs more time to recover as he aged, but the conditioning is much better than the last fight. So, I guess he's more than ready and that means he's still got a lot of gas in his tank.

I read some articles displaying the odds of this fight, but I could not find any in one of our favorite sportsbooks here. They have not listed the odds yet and I'm sure the odds might change once it's out as with that odds, for sure a lot of bettors would take that as they still believe that Manny would win.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 13, 2021, 10:47:36 PM

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That's the only advantage of Spence, lol.. I'm maybe a little bias here but if Spence could not hit Pacquiao with clean shots, Pacquiao will be able to maintain his stamina and he will win the fight. Well, I would not think a lot, I would still bet on Pacquiao to win because the odds are very attractive.

Opening Odds are really attractive in favour of Pacquiao with +350 considering the chances for Pacquiao to win the match is not quite low.
Spence for sure doesn't want to underestimate the post prime Pacquiao like Thurman did. He'll probably be intimidated until he doesn't test Pacquiao's punch first.
It has been 2 years since Pacquiao last fought, but he said in the interview that he isn't worried about the length of time he spent without any fight because his body needs more time to recover as he aged, but the conditioning is much better than the last fight. So, I guess he's more than ready and that means he's still got a lot of gas in his tank.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 14, 2021, 06:23:23 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on June 14, 2021, 06:15:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 13, 2021, 10:47:36 PM

@bisdak40. This video would show that father time does not matter for Pacman hehe. His speed never went away. He might also be one of these special athletes similar to Tom Brady. Brady is 43 years old and he carried his team to win the superbowl hehe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0ksV6ylM8

Pacman speed is amazing, we all know that hehe but the only thing that I will closely watch during the fight is his stamina and endurance.

In his last fight against Thurman, he seemed gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight in which Thurman came back to make it a close fight. I watched every Pacman fight since Barrera and that is the notable change that I have seen in him, he seemed to pause and take a breather.

Being a compatriot, my heart is for Manny but my wallet is not hehe.

That's the only advantage of Spence, lol.. I'm maybe a little bias here but if Spence could not hit Pacquiao with clean shots, Pacquiao will be able to maintain his stamina and he will win the fight. Well, I would not think a lot, I would still bet on Pacquiao to win because the odds are very attractive.

you can bias everytime but the question is would your speculation may happen >? spence is one of the best fighter in this division so more or less Manny will face another tough fight here and may encounter another defeat if he will not maintain His Offensive andVital hits because Spence is also quick and has a Good punching ability .

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 14, 2021, 06:15:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 13, 2021, 10:47:36 PM

@bisdak40. This video would show that father time does not matter for Pacman hehe. His speed never went away. He might also be one of these special athletes similar to Tom Brady. Brady is 43 years old and he carried his team to win the superbowl hehe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0ksV6ylM8

Pacman speed is amazing, we all know that hehe but the only thing that I will closely watch during the fight is his stamina and endurance.

In his last fight against Thurman, he seemed gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight in which Thurman came back to make it a close fight. I watched every Pacman fight since Barrera and that is the notable change that I have seen in him, he seemed to pause and take a breather.

Being a compatriot, my heart is for Manny but my wallet is not hehe.

That's the only advantage of Spence, lol.. I'm maybe a little bias here but if Spence could not hit Pacquiao with clean shots, Pacquiao will be able to maintain his stamina and he will win the fight. Well, I would not think a lot, I would still bet on Pacquiao to win because the odds are very attractive.

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@bisdak40. This video would show that father time does not matter for Pacman hehe. His speed never went away. He might also be one of these special athletes similar to Tom Brady. Brady is 43 years old and he carried his team to win the superbowl hehe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0ksV6ylM8

Thanks for sharing the video, I'm watching it now, and I do believe that Manny could still compete with the young champion, and beating Spence should be a great achievement at his stage. The bookies are just underestimating Manny that's why he is the underdog now, but that's it, we fans knows better.

If fever Pacquiao wins this one which I'm hoping he will, he will eclipse Mayweather's record, and Mayweather cannot claim anymore that his record and legacy is much better than Pacquiao, he is fighting Youtuber which he cannot even knock out, while Pacquiao is still fighting high caliber champion and one of top boxers in the pound for pound rankings, a win by Pacquiao will resolve who between Pacquiao and Mayweather has the better record and legacy.

It's going to be a long debate regarding who is the goat between Manny and Floyd. I think Floyd being an American will have some weight in the discussion for the next 50 years.

In any case, for us Manny will be the greatest, the level of competition and the belts he had won. And now he is facing another young and great champion, undefeated. So if he somewhat win against Spence this is one of his greatest achievements.

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