[Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021? - page 8.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 27, 2021, 07:12:51 AM

Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

I am not hearing any news on TV regarding this fight so I definitely have no idea about this. But if this will happen health protocols must be strictly followed. Lot of boxing fans will surely show their support on each of their bets especially if there will be live viewing for limited persons. Of course the health of the boxers is must. They need a healthy body since it is the requirement on the sports that they are playing. Based on my research Dubai is the safest place in the world so I think there will no problem with that.

Source : https://www.arabianbusiness.com/travel-hospitality/460511-dubai-rated-safest-place-in-world-for-business-travellers-new-survey-shows

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I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.

I guess it's because that fight was worth more, compared to this one in their eyes? Hence why Manny agreed, since his price is definitely lower compared to the one with Crawford. I'd agree with the others, a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight seems to be much more interesting and worth much more, but as you said, the organizers for the other side failed in the negotiations hence why it was most likely canceled.

Still, a relatively safe option for the side of Pacquiao. It definitely won't bring as much hype as the Crawford one, but it almost guarantees that Pacquiao has a higher chance of winning than Mikey.

this fight is also unsure yet although this one comes from the person close to the Pacquiao team as Rappler said. if he didn't ask for $40M Crawford would be a good match. he needs $40M else he won't win the presidential race?

there's still covid everywhere even in Dubai so it's really hard to finalize an event where they can get an amount of audience that can pay him $40M these days. Dana White has to mock covid in an attempt to convince people it's okay to watch UFC.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 27, 2021, 11:44:08 PM

I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.

It's just rumors yet but Pacquiao fighting more Latinos again is a good surprise for me, it has been a long time coming since he did something like this. If this happens hopefully we can see a bloodbath.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 27, 2021, 07:12:51 AM

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Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai

Actually what we are having now is an obvious bargaining or Survey if whom will attract more support from the public towards who will be the opponent of Manny Pacqiuao .
We have seen how the people now are not that huge interested in Boxing like what we had before ,specially when pandemic happens that Live watching is being prohibits .
So now the management and the promoter are doing their best on how to attract people again so there are still no confirmation about the next big fight for Manny.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 27, 2021, 10:55:58 PM

I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.

I guess it's because that fight was worth more, compared to this one in their eyes? Hence why Manny agreed, since his price is definitely lower compared to the one with Crawford. I'd agree with the others, a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight seems to be much more interesting and worth much more, but as you said, the organizers for the other side failed in the negotiations hence why it was most likely canceled.

Still, a relatively safe option for the side of Pacquiao. It definitely won't bring as much hype as the Crawford one, but it almost guarantees that Pacquiao has a higher chance of winning than Mikey.

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I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made. Errol Spence could also be an option but I think Pacquiao would want a similar purse to what he was asking against Crawford so you would run into the same problem of finding investors willing to fund it. Pacquiao will not make as much money against Garcia but it is a much easier fight for him.

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I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.

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This is apparently the safer option for the Pacquiao camp if the anticipated Crawford-Pacquiao match is already considered dead. The latter is definitely a more exciting match, of course, and more profitable as well, I'd say. Pacquiao-Garcia is definitely not as interesting as the cancelled Crawford-Pacquiao.

If this pushes through, Pacquiao is not facing a risky opponent as Crawford. Garcia's KO record is an old one. Pacquiao could easily outbox him and win the fight by UD.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 27, 2021, 08:06:45 AM

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

The difference here i think is the amount of funds involve. The proposed Manny vs Crawford fight seems to warrant a huge amount, imagined allotting $50 million of guaranteed purse alone for both boxers and we all know that Bob Arum will also grab his share of the pie.

I've read some articles from Filipino boxing analyst, as long as possible Manny don't want Bob Arum to be involve in his fight anymore so that may be the reason why he is taunting Bob by asking $40 million to fight Terrence but their original plan since the beginning was to fight Mikey Garcia.

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That's an anticipated match as always and hope they finally seal the deal with both camp.

Quote from: pinggoki on April 27, 2021, 10:35:31 AM

If the situation between both countries become good especially when it comes to the health situation then probably it will happen the fight between these 2 fighters/boxers especially Manny Pacquiao one of the legendary fighter of all time. If this will eventually happen next year then we must watch it as it may brings us more entertainment and I guess this 2 fighters are eager to win as they doesn't have any fight for a long time due to the pandemic brought us by Covid 19.

Fingers crossed 🤞 I am hoping that both country of origin is doing just fine and I mean it. I don't think they'll make it to next year, it will be the closest time possible afaik.

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The Pacquiao vs Mikey fight was planned a year ago, now Pacquiao has a good opponent for this year 2021, they've put all this together, in the hope that all will get good results.

Although the date and location have not been fixed, hopes that in the near future the match schedule has been announced in the public, the battle between Pacquiao vs Mikey has strong support from various parties.

OP, you may be able to update all of their schedules and match locations when everything is done, we can monitor the progress in this thread, This is a passionate match moment for this year, hope this will not change the cancellation.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 27, 2021, 08:06:45 AM

Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.”

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

The UAE compromises a few different states, like you have the four nations of the UK. Each emirate within the UAE are effectively competing with the others, so it investors from Abu Dhabi are unlikely to be funding a fight in Dubai. That being said, Dubai Sheikhs have a lot of money too and love to throw it at tourism boosting entertainment like boxing matches/music events/expos. They have suffered greatly during the pandemic with few visitors, but I believe that the UAE is leading the world in high vaccination rates and would love to get that tourist money flowing again. They definitely have the infrastructure to support it.

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If the situation between both countries become good especially when it comes to the health situation then probably it will happen the fight between these 2 fighters/boxers especially Manny Pacquiao one of the legendary fighter of all time. If this will eventually happen next year then we must watch it as it may brings us more entertainment and I guess this 2 fighters are eager to win as they doesn't have any fight for a long time due to the pandemic brought us by Covid 19.

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IIRC, this was the guy who really want to challenge Manny Pacquiao. Well, if this is going to be given by the said date, Manny can't find any other challenger and we've thought that it's going to be Crawford.

But if that's no longer able to be pushed then Manny has no choice but to agree and fight this guy. But honestly, I'd like to watch Crawford fight him than this guy.

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 27, 2021, 09:01:10 AM

not as excited as I am on Crawford and Pacquiao fight but Mikey Garcia still has an impressive record of 41 fights, 40 wins, 30 KOs's, and 1 loss. if this fight came through wonder how Mikey Garcia(don't really know his fighting style) will fair during the fight against manny and what the odds on the sports betting platforms will be between these two.

Manny will still be the favorite here, I reckon.

Yes, his record is impressive, but I would say that he is not a true welterweight, he fought Spence Jr and lost and then go for a B level fighter in Jessie Vargas and won at 147 lbs. So I don't know how can he upset Manny, I guess the Garcia's has a knack on Manny as they have wanted to really beat him. His brother and trainer Robert, has fighters who lost to Manny, Rios and Margarito. And now he want's his brother now to take the cape and go for a third time to beat Pacquiao. And I think they will fail again.

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not as excited as I am on Crawford and Pacquiao fight but Mikey Garcia still has an impressive record of 41 fights, 40 wins, 30 KOs's, and 1 loss. if this fight came through wonder how Mikey Garcia(don't really know his fighting style) will fair during the fight against manny and what the odds on the sports betting platforms will be between these two.

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It'll be hard for any fight to be locked for Pacquiao during these times, not unless the opponent would be Mayweather (which we know will never happen), then the money will talk for itself and Dubai would surely agree.

The fight against Mikey Garcia is not really something that's gonna get a lot of views even though Pacquiao is in the ring. It's just like a filler arc in a movie/tv series that happens but isn't really significant at all. No disrespect to Mikey Garcia but he just doesn't have the appeal to be matched against Pacquiao and generate those PPV sales.

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So no Pacquaio vs Crawford, perhaps there was no really big funds for this fight because of the pandemic. In any case, vs Garcia, it will still be a good fight though. Lucky Mikey, he is the one who won the Manny sweepstakes.

But I don't think he has the tools to beat Manny even at his age. His punch at 147 lbs doesn't have a sting because we all know that he is just a ballooned welterweight. I'm seeing Manny knocking out Garcia with brutal left.

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Quote from: arwin100 on April 27, 2021, 08:32:58 AM

Health protocol is the major reasons why sporting events will be suspended at these moment since for sure the dubai authority will be more careful especially the cases in india is so alarming and for sure they will do more extra precaution especially to the foreign entrants to their country.

Let's put that India case differently here. The Pacquaio/Crawford wasn't suspended as in the first place there's no agreement made. Covid is also not the reason why the fight might not happen.

It's not about the Covid. That's even the reason why it was Abu Dhabi or Dubai was chosen as the preferred location because of how they handle the pandemic there and UAE is one of the best countries that can generate good revenue outside the USA.

The reason for this failed agreement is Abu Dhabi investors. They play a big role in that fight to happen. If no funding were made, then the match isn't possible to proceed.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 27, 2021, 08:06:45 AM

Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.”

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

Health protocol is the major reasons why sporting events will be suspended at these moment since for sure the dubai authority will be more careful especially the cases in india is so alarming and for sure they will do more extra precaution especially to the foreign entrants to their country. If they can make this happen well this is a big fight to watch, for sure many people want Many to step into the hard canvass now.

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