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It's sad that's Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence Jr fight was cancelled cause I want the fight to happen due to a lot of people that believe Manny age to a barrier for him to win the fight but it all good.

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^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

I think there's some confirmation already that it's really an eye injury, I don't get why would they lie about that, this match is a good launching pad for Spence if he defeats Pacquiao it's the grand prize but if he's defeated, a lot of people will still see him as someone who fought against a legend.

^ Most people are expected that Yordenis will be defeated by Manny Pacquiao easily since Manny has a more experienced boxer and trained very well while Yordenis only have a couple of weeks. I think this is a good advantage for Manny's side. However, I just want to ask a question of which bookmakers site we can able to see the live stream fight for free. I am very excited to witness this fight and it seems this will not able to reach a 12 rounds and probably Yordenis will only at below 8 rounds.

Yordenis, have 2 weeks to train or not he surely can't beat Manny and Errol Spence Jr cant do either that's why I wish Manny opponent was Errol. Having said that odds of the fight were provided based on experience.

Here are the odds provided on Roobet.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 18, 2021, 04:03:30 PM

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Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2021, 06:33:29 AM

^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

I think there's some confirmation already that it's really an eye injury, I don't get why would they lie about that, this match is a good launching pad for Spence if he defeats Pacquiao it's the grand prize but if he's defeated, a lot of people will still see him as someone who fought against a legend.

^ Most people are expected that Yordenis will be defeated by Manny Pacquiao easily since Manny has a more experienced boxer and trained very well while Yordenis only have a couple of weeks. I think this is a good advantage for Manny's side. However, I just want to ask a question of which bookmakers site we can able to see the live stream fight for free. I am very excited to witness this fight and it seems this will not able to reach a 12 rounds and probably Yordenis will only at below 8 rounds.

That's a wrong expectation that Yordenis only trained for 2 weeks, he actually started training when he sign for this contract as he fight in the undercard of this main event supposedly.

Maidana is supposed to be the opponent of Ugas.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-jr-undercard-for-welterweight-megafight-takes-shape/1ch1l2q6fljdn1pwmtosc64bmr

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The televised undercard for the IBF and WBC welterweight title fight between Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence Jr. on August 21st has been announced.

The chief support will see WBA welterweight champion Yordenis Ugas defend his WBA welterweight title against Argentina's Fabian Maidana.

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Quote from: zanezane on August 18, 2021, 10:52:18 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2021, 06:33:29 AM

^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

I think there's some confirmation already that it's really an eye injury, I don't get why would they lie about that, this match is a good launching pad for Spence if he defeats Pacquiao it's the grand prize but if he's defeated, a lot of people will still see him as someone who fought against a legend.

^ Most people are expected that Yordenis will be defeated by Manny Pacquiao easily since Manny has a more experienced boxer and trained very well while Yordenis only have a couple of weeks. I think this is a good advantage for Manny's side. However, I just want to ask a question of which bookmakers site we can able to see the live stream fight for free. I am very excited to witness this fight and it seems this will not able to reach a 12 rounds and probably Yordenis will only at below 8 rounds.

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I don't think I am as excited am Manny pacquiao fight change schedule from spence to yordenis, it's just a reminder to be about how anthony joshua was billed to fight big baby before a change to a lesser opposition or a thought lesser opposition who went on to becoming the first mexican world heavyweight champion, beating anthony joshua, I think the disadvantage is at Manny pacquiao, while training for an opponent you what video take training and also lessons form the opponent, all that changing to a new opposite, chances the balance, I think Manny pacquiao is experienced enough. Love and light to spence.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 18, 2021, 03:30:16 PM

More betting odds are now available.

I'm currently browsing on the odds and I find the "Pacquiao , Manny by KO 2.90" (from sportsbet) interesting, I know Ugas is strong but he is not fast so most probably Manny will always find an opening to hit him clean and hard and Ugas will not survive the 12 rounds.

If you want to explore and you have that confidence with Pacquiao, such odd is really attracting good value to your money, since, like what you have said, Manny can throw as many punches as he can.

Ugas only watches Manny fight, but he's not been in the place where those fighters taste the speed of Manny. Though just the same, Manny also doesn't have any idea about how Uga prepared for this fight.

Instinct and trust, that's how it is for sure to all the fans that Manny have. Good Luck!

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More betting odds are now available.

I'm currently browsing on the odds and I find the "Pacquiao , Manny by KO 2.90" (from sportsbet) interesting, I know Ugas is strong but he is not fast so most probably Manny will always find an opening to hit him clean and hard and Ugas will not survive the 12 rounds.

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Quote from: zanezane on August 18, 2021, 10:52:18 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2021, 06:33:29 AM

^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

I think there's some confirmation already that it's really an eye injury, I don't get why would they lie about that, this match is a good launching pad for Spence if he defeats Pacquiao it's the grand prize but if he's defeated, a lot of people will still see him as someone who fought against a legend.

Let's accept that the Spence vs Pacquiao will not happen anymore, we have Ugas who is also a champion and if Pacquiao wins, he will get back his belt again that was taken from him due to inactivity for 2 years. Also, let's hope that it's not gonna be the last fight of Pacquiao so we will see a Spence vs Pacquiao fight or a Pacquiao vs Crawford which is gonna be the best fight in his division.

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Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2021, 06:33:29 AM

^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

I think there's some confirmation already that it's really an eye injury, I don't get why would they lie about that, this match is a good launching pad for Spence if he defeats Pacquiao it's the grand prize but if he's defeated, a lot of people will still see him as someone who fought against a legend.

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Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2021, 06:33:29 AM

^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

There are a lot of rumors circulating about the cause of Spence's withdrawal from the fight, but it seems that Spence actually suffered an eye injury while training and it is reported that the World Boxing Council (WBC) has received medical documents to confirm Spence eye injury and The results are true if Spence is detected to have an injury to the retina in his left eye so he must undergo surgery in the near future.

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Quote from: Oceat on August 17, 2021, 05:27:50 PM

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In principle, a retinal tear looks like a completely logical injury for a professional boxer who regularly receives heavy blows to the head. I can't say that I often heard about this before, but such a coincidence is quite logical.
I hope nothing unexpected will happen over the past 4 days and we will finally be able to see what form Pacquiao is in and whether he should continue his career after this fight.

I agree, as I watch the video how this retinal tear would affect a one person in the future if they continue to fight it would blind them in the future which is not a great idea for a fighter to be retiring early because they didn't care enough. And also, doctors can stop the fight if they found this problem to a fighter which is out of control on either side of the team.

So it's most likely a legit source not unless these doctors are their own but I have a doubt with that.

Anyway, I don't know if it's a setup or not but the odds are different when an undefeated fighter fights Pacquiao. Maybe they are not ready to accept that Pacquiao may give them a good whooping or they are just trying to test if Pacquiao is still worthy of an opponent?

It is difficult to say something definite. In boxing, the results of medical examinations and various diseases are traditionally used in order to delay the fight with an uncomfortable opponent or to avoid it altogether, therefore, without being inside all this, we will not find out the full truth. I hope that this fight will be won by Pacquiao and that we will see him in the next fights with stronger opponents (especially Spence).

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 18, 2021, 06:41:24 AM

Pacquiao by Decision @2.21 is very attractive AFAIC because Pacman hasn't knockout his last three opponents and considering that he is a little bit older i think Ugas can withstand those power punches of Manny.

Yes, Manny by decision is very attractive indeed. Manny did knock out Lucas Matthysse in his comeback, but it's obvious that Lucas did took a dive on that fight and doesn't want to go on. And with Broner, Thurman, it was by decision.

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On that conspiracy involving eye injury, i think there might be some truth to it Grin

. Though Manny is not in his prime anymore but he is above Danny Garcia talent-wise and Spence should come to the fight very well prepared and if the news is true that he don't have a good training camp then we should doubth his reason for pulling out of the fight against Pacman.

First time I heard about one reason that he pull out is because he doesn't have a good training camp. Maybe he was intimidated when Manny showing his training for the public.

I browse some yt videos about the conspiracy theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyDow0DWwFw

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 18, 2021, 06:41:24 AM

Pacquiao by Decision @2.21 is very attractive AFAIC because Pacman hasn't knockout his last three opponents and considering that he is a little bit older i think Ugas can withstand those power punches of Manny.

Ugas is young and strong , with stamina fighter but withstanding Manny's boxing ability is not that easy to do because pacquiao's skills is extra ordinary and he might put Ugas down by chance.

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On that conspiracy involving eye injury, i think there might be some truth to it Grin

. Though Manny is not in his prime anymore but he is above Danny Garcia talent-wise and Spence should come to the fight very well prepared and if the news is true that he don't have a good training camp then we should doubth his reason for pulling out of the fight against Pacman.

but what if the situation comes from the higher ups? we knew that there are something rigging happening in sports world specially in most betting games , but of course this is just another speculative belief lol.

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Pacquiao by Decision @2.21 is very attractive AFAIC because Pacman hasn't knockout his last three opponents and considering that he is a little bit older i think Ugas can withstand those power punches of Manny.

On that conspiracy involving eye injury, i think there might be some truth to it Grin

. Though Manny is not in his prime anymore but he is above Danny Garcia talent-wise and Spence should come to the fight very well prepared and if the news is true that he don't have a good training camp then we should doubth his reason for pulling out of the fight against Pacman.

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^^ Hard to tell at this point it someone is telling Spence to back out of the fight not from the sports media industry but from powerful boxing promoters like Ay Haymon of PBC.

In any case though, all we can do is speculate if Spence really has that eye injury (Eye-Gate) or the training camp is shit or something.

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A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

Yeah I think so I wonder why Ugas accept to fight Manny Pacquiao that Ugas has a 2 weeks preparation. I don't know if what would be the condition or status of Ugas under the stage. But we don't in the end cause Ugas is a silince maybe he had a preparation and they just hide for a reason if he had win the game maybe that's the time to tell everyone. The awaiting moment that I'm really excited to see in August 22, 2021.

It's because he also had a fight as undercard and Ugas simply can't pass this perfect opportunity to fight a legend. On Manny's part he can't postponed it as he needed the money for his political ambitions in the Philippines. So it's a win-win for both fighters that why the fight will proceed as scheduled. The only victim here is Ugas opponent, who obviously will not fight as undercard if I'm not mistaken.

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

Is there someone in the sports media industry that is telling everyone that Errol Spence’s excuse to back out from the fight is scripted? There are also some speculations that Spence did not have a good training camp in preparation for the fight.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 17, 2021, 05:38:07 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 17, 2021, 05:22:48 PM

To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

As far as referring to some sources that I looked at, the ticket price has changed and those who bought it early will either get a refund of excess price or will have other perks on the event venue. It's clear that the ticket price shouldn't be the same on the supposed first match.

That's good to hear that they have reduced the price of the ticket and those who get in early will be refunded. And for those who bet early in crypto sport bookies, the fight is voided so it is refunded already. Just a case whether you will bet on Pacquaio as favorite or not.

Quote from: chaser15 on August 17, 2021, 05:38:07 PM

It's already there and fans should accept what it turned out. Intentional or not, I see Spence Jr is just afraid and concern that he might get lost. Enough of his medical concerned scripts.

Nothing we can do about it, just accept it, but the good thing is that we can still watch Manny Pacquiao again. As for Spence whether he really made an excuse or not remains to be seen.

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In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

In principle, a retinal tear looks like a completely logical injury for a professional boxer who regularly receives heavy blows to the head. I can't say that I often heard about this before, but such a coincidence is quite logical.
I hope nothing unexpected will happen over the past 4 days and we will finally be able to see what form Pacquiao is in and whether he should continue his career after this fight.

Probably just a coincidence, but what a probability.

You are correct, boxers do get this retinal tear as they are getting blows in the head and eyes, this is their profession and this is one risk of it. But it's hard to detect unless the fighter itself will complain that something is not right (in most cases they don't and just continue to fight or spar), or it will be seen through pre-medical check up before a fight. Hopefully, Maidana recovers, he is just starting his name in boxing.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 17, 2021, 10:42:40 AM

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Quote from: Johnyz on August 12, 2021, 03:58:33 PM

A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

Yeah I think so I wonder why Ugas accept to fight Manny Pacquiao that Ugas has a 2 weeks preparation. I don't know if what would be the condition or status of Ugas under the stage. But we don't in the end cause Ugas is a silince maybe he had a preparation and they just hide for a reason if he had win the game maybe that's the time to tell everyone. The awaiting moment that I'm really excited to see in August 22, 2021.

It's because he also had a fight as undercard and Ugas simply can't pass this perfect opportunity to fight a legend. On Manny's part he can't postponed it as he needed the money for his political ambitions in the Philippines. So it's a win-win for both fighters that why the fight will proceed as scheduled. The only victim here is Ugas opponent, who obviously will not fight as undercard if I'm not mistaken.

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

Damn , is this a Joke? lol why the same case? there are so many ways not to bring for a fight but why same manner of Eye injury ? though this is a common case for boxers yet the timing seems like there is a conspiracy lol.

But lets hope that this will be one of the best fight of the century , because the noise is very strong that this may be the last Boxing fight of Pacquiao .

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on August 17, 2021, 05:31:46 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 17, 2021, 05:22:48 PM

WTF, didn't even know the fight had been called off. Error Spence sure is injury prone, jesus.

We all know that Pacman will roll through Yordenis, he's not even a top contender.

If he's not fighting a top 10 guy, then he's obviously going to blow through his opponent. To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

Spence needs to be more careful, it's getting annoying with how often he's injured now.

Injuries cant really be avoided but this one raises up questions about Spence current eye injury.
https://www.spin.ph/boxing/boxing-fans-puzzled-on-whether-its-spence-s-left-or-right-eye-that-is-injured-a793-20210813

Is it really true that he's trying to duck the said fight?

The instagram photo is clearly just a mirror image. You can tell by the scar tissue above his eyebrow which is supposed to be above the right side of his head. That means if the patch is on the opposite side then it is his left eye that is injured. You can also see the Adidas logo on his shoulder is reversed in the Instagram photo.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 17, 2021, 05:38:07 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 17, 2021, 05:22:48 PM

To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

As far as referring to some sources that I looked at, the ticket price has changed and those who bought it early will either get a refund of excess price or will have other perks on the event venue. It's clear that the ticket price shouldn't be the same on the supposed first match.

It's already there and fans should accept what it turned out. Intentional or not, I see Spence Jr is just afraid and concern that he might get lost. Enough of his medical concerned scripts.

Great if they can get some part of refund or other perks, that means, they really know that this fight is not the same caliber as Pacquiao-Spence.
Hopefully, Ugas will be a toe-to-toe fighter here and not like with Rigo running around the ring.
If he will give a very good fight, he will earn respect from boxing fans even if in case he will be defeated by Pac.
Just like Thurman, even if he was defeated, people still have respect on him because he did what a boxer supposedly should do. Not run away.

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