{Boxing} Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas - page 18.

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Quote from: DarkDays on August 17, 2021, 05:22:48 PM

To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

As far as referring to some sources that I looked at, the ticket price has changed and those who bought it early will either get a refund of excess price or will have other perks on the event venue. It's clear that the ticket price shouldn't be the same on the supposed first match.

It's already there and fans should accept what it turned out. Intentional or not, I see Spence Jr is just afraid and concern that he might get lost. Enough of his medical concerned scripts.

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Quote from: DarkDays on August 17, 2021, 05:22:48 PM

WTF, didn't even know the fight had been called off. Error Spence sure is injury prone, jesus.

We all know that Pacman will roll through Yordenis, he's not even a top contender.

If he's not fighting a top 10 guy, then he's obviously going to blow through his opponent. To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

Spence needs to be more careful, it's getting annoying with how often he's injured now.

Injuries cant really be avoided but this one raises up questions about Spence current eye injury.
https://www.spin.ph/boxing/boxing-fans-puzzled-on-whether-its-spence-s-left-or-right-eye-that-is-injured-a793-20210813

Is it really true that he's trying to duck the said fight?

About on that Ugas fight then i agree about full refund but so far i didnt see any complaints for now but i do agree on what you had said.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 17, 2021, 12:44:50 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 17, 2021, 10:42:40 AM

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

In principle, a retinal tear looks like a completely logical injury for a professional boxer who regularly receives heavy blows to the head. I can't say that I often heard about this before, but such a coincidence is quite logical.
I hope nothing unexpected will happen over the past 4 days and we will finally be able to see what form Pacquiao is in and whether he should continue his career after this fight.

I agree, as I watch the video how this retinal tear would affect a one person in the future if they continue to fight it would blind them in the future which is not a great idea for a fighter to be retiring early because they didn't care enough. And also, doctors can stop the fight if they found this problem to a fighter which is out of control on either side of the team.

So it's most likely a legit source not unless these doctors are their own but I have a doubt with that.

Anyway, I don't know if it's a setup or not but the odds are different when an undefeated fighter fights Pacquiao. Maybe they are not ready to accept that Pacquiao may give them a good whooping or they are just trying to test if Pacquiao is still worthy of an opponent?

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WTF, didn't even know the fight had been called off. Error Spence sure is injury prone, jesus.

We all know that Pacman will roll through Yordenis, he's not even a top contender.

If he's not fighting a top 10 guy, then he's obviously going to blow through his opponent. To be honest, the fans that bought tickets should get a full refund... They probably paid big bucks to see a fight that could have been legendary, and now they're left with this dud?

Spence needs to be more careful, it's getting annoying with how often he's injured now.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 17, 2021, 10:42:40 AM

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

Even if they did not announce Maidana's eye injury the Ugas fight will continue, eye injury is very common among boxers and they can injure their eyes in a fight or in training, so let's give it a benefit of a doubt, the main focus and hype now is the coming Pacquiao and Ugas fight both fighters are excited to finish the game in their favor, I don't want to another Buster Douglas here, Manny must be careful on Ugas.

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Quote from: DU18 on August 17, 2021, 02:46:01 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 17, 2021, 04:18:26 AM

Yes, there will be no swing odds in favour of Ugas here. Everyone is disappointed because it should have been Spence, but hey we got a replacement and it's good thing for Ugas, a good opportunity to be dancing in the ring with Manny. But that it, after the fight for sure Manny will be declared a winner and Ugas could go down in history as the replacement fighter for Spence who got the once and a lifetime opportunity but lost the fight.

Although many are disappointed with Spencer retirement due to injury and being replaced by duty, this fight will still be nerve-wracking with full emotion, because indeed both fighters will try to prove who is the best and deserves the WBA welterweight champions belt, but in this case of course the ugas is more has a greater burden than pacman, due to his status as the holder of the WBA welterweight title.
I think if the ugas of losing in that fight is certainly not an achievement to be proud of, especially if later it has to be recorded in history Grin

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Spence did not retire yet, he just backs out in the fight for a valid reason, just allow him to recover and we might see this fight again. I hope it's not the last fight of Manny Pacquiao yet and I'm sure regardless of the result, he will be asked in the post-fight interview of this fight about that matter, so we will know the answer soon.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 17, 2021, 04:18:26 AM

Yes, there will be no swing odds in favour of Ugas here. Everyone is disappointed because it should have been Spence, but hey we got a replacement and it's good thing for Ugas, a good opportunity to be dancing in the ring with Manny. But that it, after the fight for sure Manny will be declared a winner and Ugas could go down in history as the replacement fighter for Spence who got the once and a lifetime opportunity but lost the fight.

Although many are disappointed with Spencer retirement due to injury and being replaced by duty, this fight will still be nerve-wracking with full emotion, because indeed both fighters will try to prove who is the best and deserves the WBA welterweight champions belt, but in this case of course the ugas is more has a greater burden than pacman, due to his status as the holder of the WBA welterweight title.
I think if the ugas of losing in that fight is certainly not an achievement to be proud of, especially if later it has to be recorded in history Grin

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 17, 2021, 10:42:40 AM

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

In principle, a retinal tear looks like a completely logical injury for a professional boxer who regularly receives heavy blows to the head. I can't say that I often heard about this before, but such a coincidence is quite logical.
I hope nothing unexpected will happen over the past 4 days and we will finally be able to see what form Pacquiao is in and whether he should continue his career after this fight.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 17, 2021, 10:42:40 AM

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

Great catch Grin

we don't know if there's something fishy here, but it happened and we don't have any other option but to expect
Pacquiao and Ugas to fight on the ring this coming Aug 21.

maybe not the same hypes that we are waiting when the first time it has been announce to fight Spence but for the fans we still know what
Pacquiao's capabilities, once he showcases his skills, the punch that coming from everywhere that's really enjoyable to watch.

Less than a week and we will witness the fight, there's enough time for the gamblers to place their respective bets. Good Luck!

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Quote from: Johnyz on August 12, 2021, 03:58:33 PM

A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

Yeah I think so I wonder why Ugas accept to fight Manny Pacquiao that Ugas has a 2 weeks preparation. I don't know if what would be the condition or status of Ugas under the stage. But we don't in the end cause Ugas is a silince maybe he had a preparation and they just hide for a reason if he had win the game maybe that's the time to tell everyone. The awaiting moment that I'm really excited to see in August 22, 2021.

It's because he also had a fight as undercard and Ugas simply can't pass this perfect opportunity to fight a legend. On Manny's part he can't postponed it as he needed the money for his political ambitions in the Philippines. So it's a win-win for both fighters that why the fight will proceed as scheduled. The only victim here is Ugas opponent, who obviously will not fight as undercard if I'm not mistaken.

In a surprising turn of events, the supposedly opponent of Ugas, Maidana also suffers the same eye injury as Errol. Grin

So I don't know if there is really conspiracy theory here that it was all a set-up. But in any case, set-up or not, I am sure, Pacquiao will give them a very good fight to watch out for. Even if the odds are now low as bookies are now favoring Pacquiao, you can still bet on him, though the returns are not that big as compared to Pacquiao vs Spence odds.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/fabian-maidana-suffers-similar-injury-as-errol-spence/

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Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

Even if they offer a fight to Mayweather still this fight between them will never happen since seems the said fighter is avoiding Manny, maybe he don't want to put some stain on his record if Pacquaio could bet him. But lets forger Mayweather but to look at Ugas now since for sure he will do everything on his power to knock off Pacquaio in this fight. But I don't like their replacement Boxer since it shown that Manny have all the advantage.

While I agree that Mayweather is probably never going to agree to another fight against Manny because for him the fact that he has never been defeated professionally is very important at the same time I think this is the best that it can be done for Manny with such a short amount of time, finding a replacement that is good enough with such a short notice is very difficult, after all we know that fighters spend months preparing for a fight and at the same time due to the pandemic Manny cannot wait that much longer because the number of fights that he has left are very limited.

You are right and it is an excellent point, only if he consoles himself with that because it is already something that cannot be questioned, the only thing is that on a sporting level, revenge in boxing is what gives the most emotion, to show that he won was because he he had with what and continues to show it.

The fact that he does not want more revenge, many do not see it very well, at least I do not see it well, because if he is a champion he must show that he can continue winning, in the minds of many people they will say that he did not want to face him anymore out of fear.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 16, 2021, 03:22:57 PM

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Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.

Yordenis Ugas is taking the risk because he is not a big time player even though he is a champion and he might see this as an opportunity to make money and we can very well say that it is a step down from the level of competition as Manny was scheduled to face Errol Spence Jr but the risks are higher because a win for Yordenis Ugas in this fight could change his fortunes as well.

As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.

That's it , win or lose he already established his name as privileged to face the most popular boxer in action now and that is the Filipino pride manny pacquiao.

and also if he got lucky defeating the 8 world division champion ? is more than liek he won in Lottery jackpot so keep it up Ugas , you have the balls and you must give everything in this fight.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 16, 2021, 11:00:11 PM

I remember Pacquiao's fight against Thurman. During the initial weeks (i.e a few months before the fight), Thurman was the favorite and Pacquiao was the underdog. But then the betting odds began to change. A few days before the fight, the odds for Pacquiao were more favorable to that of Thurman. It was understandable, because more people bet in favor of Pacquiao when compared to his opponent, and therefore the sportsbooks had to change their odds. That won't happen this time, because Ugas is the underdog here.

Yes, there will be no swing odds in favour of Ugas here. Everyone is disappointed because it should have been Spence, but hey we got a replacement and it's good thing for Ugas, a good opportunity to be dancing in the ring with Manny. But that it, after the fight for sure Manny will be declared a winner and Ugas could go down in history as the replacement fighter for Spence who got the once and a lifetime opportunity but lost the fight.

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As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.

I agree, this match is more of an opportunity for Ugas. If he managed to beat Pacquiao then that he'll set the record and as well as going to increase his rank because he has defeated Pacquiao who is very popular and one of the best boxers in the world. It is truly a blessing in disguise for him and we just wish both of them to fight at their full capacity despite the changes that have happened with those changes that have given them a little timeframe of preparation, honestly, they've been prepared for so long just for their own matches.

If you happen to watch the reaction of Ugas team after learning that he will fight with Pacquiao, they were celebrating like they are about to go to the party. Grin

Indeed, this will be a big break for Ugas, if in case he will win over Pacquiao. But am rooting for Pacquaio here. Given the age that they are considering about the major factor that may influence his perfomance, but it also depends on how well he trained for the fight. And I think, he really did train hard because he thought he will be facing Spence Jr.

So there's a video that's searchable about their reaction. That's good to know if they've celebrated upon learning that Ugas' is the exchanged fighter to fight Pacquaio. It is indeed a surprise but also a blessing to him and his team. I'm also for Pacquiao on this match, as this is his sport.
Both fighters are for sure well trained and prepared and I think that they have something for us, it's less than a week. The day is nearly approaching and I think the closer we get, the more tense it goes.

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Quote from: Shamm on August 17, 2021, 02:28:09 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on August 12, 2021, 03:58:33 PM

A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

Yeah I think so I wonder why Ugas accept to fight Manny Pacquiao that Ugas has a 2 weeks preparation. I don't know if what would be the condition or status of Ugas under the stage. But we don't in the end cause Ugas is a silince maybe he had a preparation and they just hide for a reason if he had win the game maybe that's the time to tell everyone. The awaiting moment that I'm really excited to see in August 22, 2021.

It's because he also had a fight as undercard and Ugas simply can't pass this perfect opportunity to fight a legend. On Manny's part he can't postponed it as he needed the money for his political ambitions in the Philippines. So it's a win-win for both fighters that why the fight will proceed as scheduled. The only victim here is Ugas opponent, who obviously will not fight as undercard if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: Johnyz on August 12, 2021, 03:58:33 PM

A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

Yeah I think so I wonder why Ugas accept to fight Manny Pacquiao that Ugas has a 2 weeks preparation. I don't know if what would be the condition or status of Ugas under the stage. But we don't in the end cause Ugas is a silince maybe he had a preparation and they just hide for a reason if he had win the game maybe that's the time to tell everyone. The awaiting moment that I'm really excited to see in August 22, 2021.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 16, 2021, 11:00:11 PM

I remember Pacquiao's fight against Thurman. During the initial weeks (i.e a few months before the fight), Thurman was the favorite and Pacquiao was the underdog. But then the betting odds began to change. A few days before the fight, the odds for Pacquiao were more favorable to that of Thurman. It was understandable, because more people bet in favor of Pacquiao when compared to his opponent, and therefore the sportsbooks had to change their odds. That won't happen this time, because Ugas is the underdog here.

Of course Ugas is going to be, look at the stats of those two, it's astronomically different so I don't think it's going to be a problem knowing who the underdog is. Also, I have seen Ugas's fight and I think that I am all the way towards Pacquiao in this match.

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Quote from: blockman on August 16, 2021, 06:46:15 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 16, 2021, 03:22:57 PM

As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.

I agree, this match is more of an opportunity for Ugas. If he managed to beat Pacquiao then that he'll set the record and as well as going to increase his rank because he has defeated Pacquiao who is very popular and one of the best boxers in the world. It is truly a blessing in disguise for him and we just wish both of them to fight at their full capacity despite the changes that have happened with those changes that have given them a little timeframe of preparation, honestly, they've been prepared for so long just for their own matches.

If you happen to watch the reaction of Ugas team after learning that he will fight with Pacquiao, they were celebrating like they are about to go to the party. Grin

Indeed, this will be a big break for Ugas, if in case he will win over Pacquiao. But am rooting for Pacquaio here. Given the age that they are considering about the major factor that may influence his perfomance, but it also depends on how well he trained for the fight. And I think, he really did train hard because he thought he will be facing Spence Jr.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 16, 2021, 03:11:47 PM

Yordenis Ugas is taking the risk because he is not a big time player even though he is a champion and he might see this as an opportunity to make money and we can very well say that it is a step down from the level of competition as Manny was scheduled to face Errol Spence Jr but the risks are higher because a win for Yordenis Ugas in this fight could change his fortunes as well.

Taking the risk because there's a high chance he will be beat up by Manny. But I think they will try to keep this fight as safe as possible and may become just for entertainment and money. Although I really want to see a knockout myself, it's still a good deal if you are buying their pay-per-view.
That's Manny and I think he is worth the money. Grin

Good rhyme. Then, he is a brother being a Filipino too. It's the little support we could offer to him.
I will definitely buy the pay per view and invite my drinking buddies this Sunday.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 16, 2021, 11:00:11 PM

I remember Pacquiao's fight against Thurman. During the initial weeks (i.e a few months before the fight), Thurman was the favorite and Pacquiao was the underdog. But then the betting odds began to change. A few days before the fight, the odds for Pacquiao were more favorable to that of Thurman. It was understandable, because more people bet in favor of Pacquiao when compared to his opponent, and therefore the sportsbooks had to change their odds. That won't happen this time, because Ugas is the underdog here.

and obviously the advantage is favoring Manny Pacquiao , looking at the record and the ability in their past performance indeed manny will win herre unless Ugas will be friend by Luck and make a single shot knockout , but without happening ? then he will lose this bout.

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