{Boxing} Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas - page 20.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 15, 2021, 07:58:39 PM

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.

Indeed and its not impossible. Even pacquiao is not getting any younger, he is confident and in condition to fight will all his might. I want to see another KO before his retirement (if he's really going to run for president and win).

On the other side, I think this is the biggest fight for Ugas's boxing career thus if he managed to beat Pacquiao he will be place into a spotlight as one of the boxer who beat Pacquiao before he ended his journey as a boxer.

I think it's not just Pacquiao, but all boxers are always looking to win by KO. But in this case, if it not presented itself then Pacquaio can settle for a UD, a win is still a win. The problem with Pacquiao's opponent though is that once they taste Pacquiao's power, they will go on a full defensive mode because they are afraid that they are going to be knock down or knock out by the fighting Senator.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 15, 2021, 07:58:39 PM

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.

Indeed and its not impossible. Even pacquiao is not getting any younger, he is confident and in condition to fight will all his might. I want to see another KO before his retirement (if he's really going to run for president and win).

On the other side, I think this is the biggest fight for Ugas's boxing career thus if he managed to beat Pacquiao he will be place into a spotlight as one of the boxer who beat Pacquiao before he ended his journey as a boxer.

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Quote from: aioc on August 15, 2021, 06:43:38 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 04:14:19 PM

That's easy to know if you are from the Philippines, but that view could just be a view if he will not work for it. While in boxing, he already has proven to be one of the best, in politics, it's a different story as I see a lot of criticism against him even being a senator.

Yes, he gets criticism but not from corruption, this criticism is politically motivated because his opponents cannot accept that a once poor guy whose only means of getting in a high position is through boxing is now vying for higher positions in the government, politics is very dirty in the Philippines, there's so many fake news and these fake news are not regulated.

it is not right to mention about his being a poor once to be criticized because His status now and proven to be good at heart , the thing that he was being attacked now is the Idea that he is opposing the government that once he was a ally , just because of the scenario that he is not the chosen one to be running as presidential or vice presidential in Dutertes Team , this hurt him a lot that is the reason why he keeps on pointing some irregularities in this administration.

but getting back to boxing, there is one best thing that will happen here, and that is Manny Pacquiao will beat Ugas no matter what.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 15, 2021, 07:58:39 PM

If the match will end up by decision, Pacquiao might be got hit by this possibility. There's no good money in return to bet for him so something magic is needed in order for big gambles to win.

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.

If the match is close, there's a possibility we all know fans will be cheering for Pacquiao and they want to see a fair fight, the least that any boxing organization wants is any controversy, the boxing world does not need another Horn controversy, boxing has stiff competition on MMA they are obliged to give fans a fair fight, the boxing commission hopefully will give fair judges on this fight

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 15, 2021, 07:58:39 PM

Quote from: crzy on August 15, 2021, 07:43:34 PM

we all know there’s also politics in boxing especially the fixed matches.

If the match will end up by decision, Pacquiao might be got hit by this possibility. There's no good money in return to bet for him so something magic is needed in order for big gambles to win.

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.

More likely that was the case cause they already know that Ugas have already practiced the way how Juan Manuel Marquez fights. Looks like they already planned it from the start and they already know how the event goes few weeks before the fight. If Ugas will clash with manny until the end of the round, I'm pretty sure the fight will not last up to 12 rounds. But if he will run to the point where he doesn't throw any power punches then expect to have a split decision like we saw yesterday.

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Manny Pacquiao is my favourite for this fight, from all statistics he is the favourite to win this particular fight plus adding that this may be his last career fight, he will want to put in his best to ensure that the end of his career is spectacular.

Yordenis Ugas on the other hand is a great fighter but i am not certain that he is as experienced as Mr Pacquiao. A win for him will add some spice to his career however i don't think he can overcome the Pacman.

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Quote from: crzy on August 15, 2021, 07:43:34 PM

we all know there’s also politics in boxing especially the fixed matches.

If the match will end up by decision, Pacquiao might be got hit by this possibility. There's no good money in return to bet for him so something magic is needed in order for big gambles to win.

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.

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Quote from: aioc on August 15, 2021, 06:43:38 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 04:14:19 PM

That's easy to know if you are from the Philippines, but that view could just be a view if he will not work for it. While in boxing, he already has proven to be one of the best, in politics, it's a different story as I see a lot of criticism against him even being a senator.

Yes, he gets criticism but not from corruption, this criticism is politically motivated because his opponents cannot accept that a once poor guy whose only means of getting in a high position is through boxing is now vying for higher positions in the government, politics is very dirty in the Philippines, there's so many fake news and these fake news are not regulated.

There’s no clean politics in the Philippines, once you have the money you can do everything just like how he get the college degree instantly, anyway that’s how you see Manny then so be it. His boxing match will happen next well, this can be a sure win for him because of many reason, we all know there’s also politics in boxing especially the fixed matches.

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Quote from: aioc on August 15, 2021, 06:43:38 PM

Yes, he gets criticism but not from corruption, this criticism is politically motivated because his opponents cannot accept that a once poor guy whose only means of getting in a high position is through boxing is now vying for higher positions in the government,

There's no connection that he was once a poor guy before why there are lots of people criticizing him about related to politics. Not just his supposed political opponents but the majority of the PH community is not in favor of Pacquiao running the highest post. It needs a ripe political experience and not just you just want it. He is vocal about the corruption but why just now? Let's stop the discussion on that.

Anyways, we should not discuss any further politics related here. It's not the purpose of this thread.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 04:14:19 PM

That's easy to know if you are from the Philippines, but that view could just be a view if he will not work for it. While in boxing, he already has proven to be one of the best, in politics, it's a different story as I see a lot of criticism against him even being a senator.

Yes, he gets criticism but not from corruption, this criticism is politically motivated because his opponents cannot accept that a once poor guy whose only means of getting in a high position is through boxing is now vying for higher positions in the government, politics is very dirty in the Philippines, there's so many fake news and these fake news are not regulated.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 15, 2021, 04:02:28 PM

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

It is difficult to follow the number of belts boxing has in each and every division but we are aware that Manny Pacquiao won multiple belts in multiple weight division and he has nothing much to prove and if he really wants to focus on politics he can do so. If you are from that part of the world, i want to know his chances of winning the election.

I know that he already holds some political position in the country but no idea about his political views and his vision for the future.

That's easy to know if you are from the Philippines, but that view could just be a view if he will not work for it. While in boxing, he already has proven to be one of the best, in politics, it's a different story as I see a lot of criticism against him even being a senator.

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

It is difficult to follow the number of belts boxing has in each and every division but we are aware that Manny Pacquiao won multiple belts in multiple weight division and he has nothing much to prove and if he really wants to focus on politics he can do so. If you are from that part of the world, i want to know his chances of winning the election.

I know that he already holds some political position in the country but no idea about his political views and his vision for the future.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 13, 2021, 07:33:54 PM

It's ok that Pacquiao still wants to do a professional boxing compare exhibition match. Don't want to see Pacquiao vs Logan Paul, Pacquiao vs some Japanese boxer, etc. That's a trash record for his legacy.

Mayweather should just shut up his mouth if Pacquiao still fighting professionally today. If he likes to become a clown fighting personalities outside boxing, then who's more hungry for money now?

Back to topic, I don't see any upset here for Ugas. I'm not underestimating Ugas but that was a reality.

Winning has a point, if seen until now Ugas did not respond that he did not show his disappointment. And we should appreciate that so far Ugas seems to insist on continuing to train, so there's no doubt that this match will be very fun. Each other either from Manny's side or from Ugas' side will enjoy the fight between the two.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2021, 09:58:00 AM

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Well.. this could be his last fight. According to sources that are close to him, he wanted his farewell fight at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. And this time he got a fight there, after a long gap of more than two years (last one was against Keith Thurman, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena). If Pacquiao goes ahead with his decision to contest the 2022 Philippine presidential elections, then I guess he will not have time for any more matches. I strongly suspect that he will announce his retirement shortly before the fight.

Lost before the game or after the game? like Khabib did when he was about to retire? by putting down his boxing gloves?
Manny doesn't really think about ending up in the ring? but maybe with some plans like the last game, it would be great we see. Of course the match, as well as farewell, became the most sacred moment for him in a boxing match of a champion.

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Well.. this could be his last fight. According to sources that are close to him, he wanted his farewell fight at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. And this time he got a fight there, after a long gap of more than two years (last one was against Keith Thurman, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena). If Pacquiao goes ahead with his decision to contest the 2022 Philippine presidential elections, then I guess he will not have time for any more matches. I strongly suspect that he will announce his retirement shortly before the fight.

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Maybe this could be the last time we will see Pacquiao fight in the ring but maybe it is not. The presidential election of the Philippines isn't yet happening and also Pacquiao is not sure if he will going to win the race. However knowing that the anticipated fight of Pacquiao will be push through despite that Errol Spencer Jr. withdraw from the match due to injury but the boxing management manage to find another opponent that will going to fight Pacquiao is good enough because I am waiting for this fight and wanted to place a bet favor on the odds of Pacquiao.

There's no way they will cancel the Pacquiao fight, they'll most likely lose tons of money If there is no Pacquiao fight.
Notice, that there were no changes ppv price.
Now, they just need to make Ugas look like he would become close as big as Spence to sell the tickets. As part of the contingency plan, they knew Pacquiao could sell enough tickets though.

On the political perspective, I don't see Pacquiao winning the presidential election. I would be glad If he's not going to run for the highest office. Being a senator, is I think enough for him If he wants to serve for his country.

Or maybe he just stops being a politician and lives a simple and peaceful life, there are many ways o serve the people, like creating a lot of charitable institutions where he can donate his money, politics are damn dirty, and he can't win if he is too honest.

Going back to the fight, this should be easy for Pacman, I like how Casimero described it, "it's easy work.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 15, 2021, 05:48:16 AM

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Maybe this could be the last time we will see Pacquiao fight in the ring but maybe it is not. The presidential election of the Philippines isn't yet happening and also Pacquiao is not sure if he will going to win the race. However knowing that the anticipated fight of Pacquiao will be push through despite that Errol Spencer Jr. withdraw from the match due to injury but the boxing management manage to find another opponent that will going to fight Pacquiao is good enough because I am waiting for this fight and wanted to place a bet favor on the odds of Pacquiao.

There's no way they will cancel the Pacquiao fight, they'll most likely lose tons of money If there is no Pacquiao fight.
Notice, that there were no changes ppv price.
Now, they just need to make Ugas look like he would become close as big as Spence to sell the tickets. As part of the contingency plan, they knew Pacquiao could sell enough tickets though.

On the political perspective, I don't see Pacquiao winning the presidential election. I would be glad If he's not going to run for the highest office. Being a senator, is I think enough for him If he wants to serve for his country.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 15, 2021, 06:52:34 AM

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Maybe this could be the last time we will see Pacquiao fight in the ring but maybe it is not. The presidential election of the Philippines isn't yet happening and also Pacquiao is not sure if he will going to win the race. However knowing that the anticipated fight of Pacquiao will be push through despite that Errol Spencer Jr. withdraw from the match due to injury but the boxing management manage to find another opponent that will going to fight Pacquiao is good enough because I am waiting for this fight and wanted to place a bet favor on the odds of Pacquiao.

It could be his last fight if he wins in the election, but if he will not, we might see him fight again as long as he will win this fight. Many are saying that it's an easy fight for Pacquiao, and I agree with that, so let's continue to hype this fight as though no Errol Spence, but seeing Pacquiao fight is always a satisfaction for us.

Don't worry, he will not win in the election so we will probably see him have some fight next year. This fight with Ugas is not an awaited fight, but since people have already bought the PPV subscription and some have bought the ticket, they have no choice but just to watch this fight.

I know it's a great fight, and it will not be the same fight that we just witness which is the Casimero vs Rigo, which was a boring fight.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 15, 2021, 05:48:16 AM

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Maybe this could be the last time we will see Pacquiao fight in the ring but maybe it is not. The presidential election of the Philippines isn't yet happening and also Pacquiao is not sure if he will going to win the race. However knowing that the anticipated fight of Pacquiao will be push through despite that Errol Spencer Jr. withdraw from the match due to injury but the boxing management manage to find another opponent that will going to fight Pacquiao is good enough because I am waiting for this fight and wanted to place a bet favor on the odds of Pacquiao.

It could be his last fight if he wins in the election, but if he will not, we might see him fight again as long as he will win this fight. Many are saying that it's an easy fight for Pacquiao, and I agree with that, so let's continue to hype this fight as though no Errol Spence, but seeing Pacquiao fight is always a satisfaction for us.

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This could be the last we will see Manny fight in the ring he will be very busy after this fight and by the time there is an open for a new fight, he cannot do it because he is holding a high position and it won't let him fight again, or his body could not keep up anymore so I hope he can give us a great fight and he wins another title again, I lost count how many titles he wins people are only counting weight category.

Maybe this could be the last time we will see Pacquiao fight in the ring but maybe it is not. The presidential election of the Philippines isn't yet happening and also Pacquiao is not sure if he will going to win the race. However knowing that the anticipated fight of Pacquiao will be push through despite that Errol Spencer Jr. withdraw from the match due to injury but the boxing management manage to find another opponent that will going to fight Pacquiao is good enough because I am waiting for this fight and wanted to place a bet favor on the odds of Pacquiao.

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