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August 16, 2021, 11:00:11 PM
I remember Pacquiao's fight against Thurman. During the initial weeks (i.e a few months before the fight), Thurman was the favorite and Pacquiao was the underdog. But then the betting odds began to change. A few days before the fight, the odds for Pacquiao were more favorable to that of Thurman. It was understandable, because more people bet in favor of Pacquiao when compared to his opponent, and therefore the sportsbooks had to change their odds. That won't happen this time, because Ugas is the underdog here.
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August 16, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.
I agree, this match is more of an opportunity for Ugas. If he managed to beat Pacquiao then that he'll set the record and as well as going to increase his rank because he has defeated Pacquiao who is very popular and one of the best boxers in the world. It is truly a blessing in disguise for him and we just wish both of them to fight at their full capacity despite the changes that have happened with those changes that have given them a little timeframe of preparation, honestly, they've been prepared for so long just for their own matches.
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August 16, 2021, 06:19:06 PM
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Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.
Yordenis Ugas is taking the risk because he is not a big time player even though he is a champion and he might see this as an opportunity to make money and we can very well say that it is a step down from the level of competition as Manny was scheduled to face Errol Spence Jr but the risks are higher because a  win for Yordenis Ugas in this fight could change his fortunes as well.

As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.
Whom had thought that Spence would make some u-turn? Everything was already set until the unexpected things do happen which it did result for Ugas to fight instead on the said main event.

He might not have good records same as you said but it isnt really that bad either basing off with experience.Majority of boxing  fans on here did somewhat concluded on whose gonna win
but we  know that as long the fight isnt over,there would be always some probabilities for some upset.
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August 16, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
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Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.
Yordenis Ugas is taking the risk because he is not a big time player even though he is a champion and he might see this as an opportunity to make money and we can very well say that it is a step down from the level of competition as Manny was scheduled to face Errol Spence Jr but the risks are higher because a  win for Yordenis Ugas in this fight could change his fortunes as well.

As a champion, they want a big fight and now, it is a blessing in disguise for him because they did not expect the blessing will come out early. He is not an undefeated fighter, no record to protect, but to fight with the one and only 8th-time world champion, that's a privilege and it's a big success if he wins.
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August 16, 2021, 03:11:47 PM
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Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.
Yordenis Ugas is taking the risk because he is not a big time player even though he is a champion and he might see this as an opportunity to make money and we can very well say that it is a step down from the level of competition as Manny was scheduled to face Errol Spence Jr but the risks are higher because a  win for Yordenis Ugas in this fight could change his fortunes as well.
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August 16, 2021, 02:45:20 PM
While I agree that Mayweather is probably never going to agree to another fight against Manny because for him the fact that he has never been defeated professionally is very important at the same time I think this is the best that it can be done for Manny with such a short amount of time, finding a replacement that is good enough with such a short notice is very difficult, after all we know that fighters spend months preparing for a fight and at the same time due to the pandemic Manny cannot wait that much longer because the number of fights that he has left are very limited.

Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.

Guarding without punching would be a bad scenario to witness, hopefully, it will not happen as it will only make the fight boring. We already witnessed a boring fight this month, we don't want to see it again on the most awaited fight for the Filipino fans this month. Ugas is an Olympic medalist as well, but he doesn't run, so I'm sure he will be forced to fight back because Manny will be in any direction.
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August 16, 2021, 02:40:30 PM
While I agree that Mayweather is probably never going to agree to another fight against Manny because for him the fact that he has never been defeated professionally is very important at the same time I think this is the best that it can be done for Manny with such a short amount of time, finding a replacement that is good enough with such a short notice is very difficult, after all we know that fighters spend months preparing for a fight and at the same time due to the pandemic Manny cannot wait that much longer because the number of fights that he has left are very limited.

Nothing but for the sake of him having a fight instead of wasting time waiting for another one, this replacement is good enough and we should focus with them after all, even we do mentioned names those fighters will not accept as soon as possible knowing how strong Manny was, they will ask for time to condition and to scout how they going to counter Pacquiao's capabilities.

Ugas needs to take the risk of fighting back once they've met. Continue to guard yourself will just give Manny more time
to keep throwing punch on him.
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August 16, 2021, 02:39:49 PM
A 2 weeks preparation for Ugas is not enough to fight Manny, I don’t know why he accepted the offer but it looks like Manny is in serious business here and will do everything just to continue his fight by next week no matter who’s the opponent is. Manny already have a good trainings towards this fight, he is prepared for a great fight with Spence but suddenly the dramas starts to kick in. Ugas has no chance to beat Manny here, I’m expecting a knock out here.

I think it's already part of the plan, they are on the same division, and Manny will have to fight a champion so no one is on his way but Ugas. For everyone to know, Ugas is consistently training as he also has a fight on the same date, his fight is an undercard of the suppose to be main event, but now he is fight in the main event which is a great chance for him to prove to the world that he is a real champion and that is by beating Manny Pacquiao.
Even though beating up Pacquiao is really on slim chance but taking this path on proving out something and would surely be a good boost into his career if he do able to takedown Manny.
Changes in fight arrangement could really happen due to some unexpected instances just like what happen in Spence. For sure Ugas is really having that  thing in mind that he
should  do his best on taking down Pacquiao even the odds is low or the chance but at least he would really take up some shot. From undercard to main event isnt something  an
opportunity that you could get.
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August 16, 2021, 11:39:29 AM
Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

Even if they offer a fight to Mayweather still this fight between them will never happen since seems the said fighter is avoiding Manny, maybe he don't want to put some stain on his record if Pacquaio could bet him. But lets forger Mayweather but to look at Ugas now since for sure he will do everything on his power to knock off Pacquaio in this fight. But I don't like their replacement Boxer since it shown that Manny have all the advantage.
While I agree that Mayweather is probably never going to agree to another fight against Manny because for him the fact that he has never been defeated professionally is very important at the same time I think this is the best that it can be done for Manny with such a short amount of time, finding a replacement that is good enough with such a short notice is very difficult, after all we know that fighters spend months preparing for a fight and at the same time due to the pandemic Manny cannot wait that much longer because the number of fights that he has left are very limited.
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August 16, 2021, 11:19:35 AM
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If the match will end up by decision, Pacquiao might be got hit by this possibility. There's no good money in return to bet for him so something magic is needed in order for big gambles to win.
Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.
Yordenis Ugas is a tough opponent and it is not that easy to knock him out as none of his opponents was able to achieve that. I have not seen the fights of Yordenis Ugas live but i was watching his old videos and he is a good enough opponent for Mann Pacquiao and Yordenis Ugas might see this as an opportunity to make waves in his career as he is also 35 years of age and an impressive win could propel him to the next level.
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August 16, 2021, 09:24:55 AM
I heard in the news that Manny's training is already over today, I'm just not sure what are activities he will be doing a week before the actual fight. I do hope he is really in full condition when he steps up in the ring, and I do hope it's not gonna be a boring fight.

Odds still no other market.

Manny remains a huge favorite to win the fight.

I have checked on 3 crypto sportsbook already, they have the same odds, it's only the moneyline for now and IMO it's not attractive if you are looking for good odds betting on Manny Pacquiao to win, let's wait for a while, just be patient, eventually more markets will be release and that's the time we have to be brave enough putting our bets.
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August 16, 2021, 09:08:42 AM
I heard in the news that Manny's training is already over today, I'm just not sure what are activities he will be doing a week before the actual fight. I do hope he is really in full condition when he steps up in the ring, and I do hope it's not gonna be a boring fight.

Odds still no other market.

Manny remains a huge favorite to win the fight.
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August 16, 2021, 08:52:59 AM
I don't think so if Ugas will win the match against Manny Pacquiao  we all know that 2 weeks preparation for ugas is not enough to fight Manny.
Manny is a Legendary boxer as we saw his last fight against Thurman .his footwork and determination is there . Age and height doesn't matter even if Thurman is in a prime stage but Manny prove to everyone of us that he can still fight and won against the younger opponent.
If Ugas fight manny pacquiao with 2-3 weeks preparation is not good for him even if Ugas is a young champion  he need to be more careful for thier fight.
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August 16, 2021, 08:52:53 AM
Manny Pacquiao is my favourite for this fight, from all statistics he is the favourite to win this particular fight plus adding that this may be his last career fight, he will want to put in his best to ensure that the end of his career is spectacular.

Yordenis Ugas on the other hand is a great fighter but i am not certain that he is as experienced as Mr Pacquiao. A win for him will add some spice to his career however i don't think he can overcome the Pacman.
Of course, he's the best fighter for this match, Ugas is young and he can probably use that to his advantage since Pacman is much older although I think the aggressiveness and skill of Pacman even though she's already old, it might still be enough to deatroy Ugas in this match, an old tiger is still a tiger.
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August 16, 2021, 08:10:21 AM
I do not think that any professional boxer is consciously ready to go on the defensive - it takes much more energy than normal boxing, plus it guarantees a loss. Perhaps Ugas will bet on the knockout and exchanging punches because he has little chance of winning on points.
He is young and active and also the idea of having a chance to beat one of the most popular and famous boxer in the world?
he will surely go like a Bull attacking all areas of the ring to grab this once in a lifetime chance .
because if Him being lucky ? surely he will be the last boxer to face the "Pambansang Kamao" of the philippines and the living legend of boxing since any moment Manny might decide to quit boxing and dedicate his time in politics and public serving .
so lets see what will come to Ugas way but surely he will be having very hard time winning against manny.

Is he young? Maybe you didn't notice that Pacquiao now has a different opponent than Spence? Ugas is already 35 years old and his best years are behind him. He is only 7 years younger than Pacquiao. Ugas has many victories and a number of defeats, different titles, etc., I don't think that at this age he retained any special motivation, given the fact that his career can hardly be called outstanding.
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August 16, 2021, 06:28:32 AM
I think it's not just Pacquiao, but all boxers are always looking to win by KO. But in this case, if it not presented itself then Pacquaio can settle for a UD, a win is still a win. The problem with Pacquiao's opponent though is that once they taste Pacquiao's power, they will go on a full defensive mode because they are afraid that they are going to be knock down or knock out by the fighting Senator.

I do not think that any professional boxer is consciously ready to go on the defensive - it takes much more energy than normal boxing, plus it guarantees a loss. Perhaps Ugas will bet on the knockout and exchanging punches because he has little chance of winning on points.
He is young and active and also the idea of having a chance to beat one of the most popular and famous boxer in the world?
he will surely go like a Bull attacking all areas of the ring to grab this once in a lifetime chance .
because if Him being lucky ? surely he will be the last boxer to face the "Pambansang Kamao" of the philippines and the living legend of boxing since any moment Manny might decide to quit boxing and dedicate his time in politics and public serving .
so lets see what will come to Ugas way but surely he will be having very hard time winning against manny.
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August 16, 2021, 06:09:32 AM
I think it's not just Pacquiao, but all boxers are always looking to win by KO. But in this case, if it not presented itself then Pacquaio can settle for a UD, a win is still a win. The problem with Pacquiao's opponent though is that once they taste Pacquiao's power, they will go on a full defensive mode because they are afraid that they are going to be knock down or knock out by the fighting Senator.

I do not think that any professional boxer is consciously ready to go on the defensive - it takes much more energy than normal boxing, plus it guarantees a loss. Perhaps Ugas will bet on the knockout and exchanging punches because he has little chance of winning on points.
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August 16, 2021, 05:44:13 AM

The chances are slim though, Pacquiao has knock out any of his opponents for many fights now.

Of course if there is a chance then go for it, but a clear unanimous decision is not that bad in my opinion. Just probably some concern about his stamina as in the Thurman fight it seems to be that he gasses out in round 8 and above that's why Thurman was able to hit him flush. And there could be ring rust too as he is out for almost two year.
After being a religious fighter, I have seen none of KO from Pacquiao's fight; he won though and same with how you see it from that last Thurman fight, he almost drained out.

He's stamina is no longer the same but like what the post above said, his opponent after feeling the pain coming from Pacquiao's punch, they tighten their guards, afraid of being hit solid and take the KO punch.

A win, still a win it brings the title together with the money and additional fame before retiring to this sport!
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August 16, 2021, 04:55:19 AM
we all know there’s also politics in boxing especially the fixed matches.

If the match will end up by decision, Pacquiao might be got hit by this possibility. There's no good money in return to bet for him so something magic is needed in order for big gambles to win.

Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.



Pacquaio has trained hard enough for the match, he will certainly do everything in his power to knock down Ugas in the ring later, especially since we know that pacquaio really wants to reclaim his title belt which he was stripped of when he was absent for a long time in the boxing match.
I personally also believe that pacquaio will be able to beat Ugas by winning by knockout later, because it can be said that this fight is an event to prove who is a worthy boxer to get the WBA welterweight world championship belt.
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August 16, 2021, 04:25:27 AM
Pacquiao should pursue the KO. He is the challenger here after all.
Indeed and its not impossible. Even pacquiao is not getting any younger, he is confident and in condition to fight will all his might. I want to see another KO before his retirement (if he's really going to run for president and win).

On the other side, I think this is the biggest fight for Ugas's boxing career thus if he managed to beat Pacquiao he will be place into a spotlight as one of the boxer who beat Pacquiao before he ended his journey as a boxer.

I think it's not just Pacquiao, but all boxers are always looking to win by KO. But in this case, if it not presented itself then Pacquaio can settle for a UD, a win is still a win. The problem with Pacquiao's opponent though is that once they taste Pacquiao's power, they will go on a full defensive mode because they are afraid that they are going to be knock down or knock out by the fighting Senator.

The chances are slim though, Pacquiao has knock out any of his opponents for many fights now.

Of course if there is a chance then go for it, but a clear unanimous decision is not that bad in my opinion. Just probably some concern about his stamina as in the Thurman fight it seems to be that he gasses out in round 8 and above that's why Thurman was able to hit him flush. And there could be ring rust too as he is out for almost two year.
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