[Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Now Stevenson will be the next target for Valdez. No need for an immediate rematch, the fight is not even close. Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

Stevenson would be a tough test for Oscar Valdez as the former can match Valdez speed and power.

Stevenson vs Valdez is a money fight and with Bob Arum's recent statement, he is willing to stage this one and that would be a blockbuster.

Berchelt vs Valdez reminds me of Pacquiao vs Margarito where the more agile boxer has the advantage and that is being set-up to make Valdez look good and in fairness to him, he performed what is expected of him.

Time to lock the thread now and as usual, thanks to all who participated in this lively discussion, until next.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match.

His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them.

Berchelt is also a knock out artist but his style of very different as he swarms his opponents with flurry of punches until they can't recovered from the volumes. This time, Valdez was smart not to fight Berchelt fight, but instead uses a lot of jabs early to score points.

And then his power in that left hand, take Berchelt out and I agree that this is a clinic show for Valdez as everyone didn't expect that he will destroy Berchelt in that fashion.

Sometimes a fighter that always go forward does not respect the power of his opponent, so I think Berchelt was suprised here by the power of Valdez but he hasn't adjust by changing his style, and I'm sure this is a learning experience for Berchelt to be smarter by having the ability to adjust on what the opponent is showing, than just relying on his power to KO his opponent.

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Quote from: yazher on February 21, 2021, 09:41:38 PM

Quote from: Viscore on February 21, 2021, 05:27:41 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match.

His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them.

Berchelt is also a knock out artist but his style of very different as he swarms his opponents with flurry of punches until they can't recovered from the volumes. This time, Valdez was smart not to fight Berchelt fight, but instead uses a lot of jabs early to score points.

And then his power in that left hand, take Berchelt out and I agree that this is a clinic show for Valdez as everyone didn't expect that he will destroy Berchelt in that fashion.

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Quote from: yazher on February 21, 2021, 09:41:38 PM

His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them.

Judging from the way he punches, he is looking for a big knock out punch the way he moves, positions himself, and how he looks on the opening, he really is going for a knockout and he delivers it right on time, and Berchelt not expecting him, all his future opponents will be looking at this fight and they will be very careful on not being attentive.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 21, 2021, 05:27:41 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match.

His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 21, 2021, 05:27:41 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match.

Miguel Berchelt wasn't able to adjust on this match, Valdez put a masterful clinic here, his jab was far superior, potshotting in first 2 rounds alone and there was blood coming from nose and this makes a fighter breath hard as the fight goes on.

That perfect left hook though, Berchelt fall like a sake of rice. But the good thing is that Miguel is fine after he was rush to the hospital. But we don't know how is he going to be after this fight because Valdez really took out his soul in this fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 04:36:17 PM

Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 11:53:50 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 20, 2021, 08:49:51 PM

Any link out there mate?

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream.

Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?

Thanks bro, Oscar Valdez is really a live dog and has the numbers of Berchelt here. I'm sure many are happy to see Valdez winning and I do hope that they have bet on the underdog here. This is also an emotional win for him, congrats to Valdez and to everyone.

Now Stevenson will be the next target for Valdez. No need for an immediate rematch, the fight is not even close. Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 19, 2021, 05:50:16 PM

Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win.

I guess I was right here, I watch the highlights and this is exactly what happen.. Miguel Berchelt trying to move forward but he already does not have the foot and with that solid counter punch of Oscar Valdez, the fight has ended. Congrats to us underdog bettors, I have a little win on this fight too.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 21, 2021, 05:16:45 AM

He was the bigger guy that night, but he didn't know how to take advantage of it.

Style makes a fight and Valdez came well prepared for this fight he is in a good trainer Reynoso, also the same trainer of Ryan Garcia and Canelo both fighters are heavy punchers and with good timing, Valdez developed that good timing on this fight, he is definitely going to be a great champion.

Yes, and Valdez play perfectly being the small guy here. His jab do the job in the first 3 rounds. And since Miguel Berchelt is very slow, Valdez took advantage of it. Valdez is too emotional post fight though because we all know that he is also from Mexico but they support Miguel Berchelt here. So he definitely proved everyone back in the country wrong with a statement win against Miguel Berchelt. Next will be Shakur Stevenson.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 21, 2021, 10:08:17 AM

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This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary. I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg.

I should've bet all in... damn Grin

For those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won Tongue

This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table.
Congrats underdog bettors!

Congrats to you man, your prediction is correct, maybe the bookies have not seen it coming and Oscar Valdez remains undefeated under a good trainer. Good tuck to his future, I hope he will still continue to be an underdog so we can keep betting on him and get that good return of our stake.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 11, 2021, 12:30:17 AM

This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary. I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg.

I should've bet all in... damn Grin

For those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won Tongue

This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table.
Congrats underdog bettors!

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They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch.

Miguel Berchelt is a come forward fighter, and Oscar Valdez has the perfect punch for him, his left hook. Miguel Berchelt was really outclassed from the very first round. Valdez didn't engage him in a brawl and always brings the fight in the middle of the ring. Miguel Berchelt is a great champion no doubt, but it was a off night for him, no power in his punch. He was the bigger guy that night, but he didn't know how to take advantage of it.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 21, 2021, 04:43:47 AM

They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 21, 2021, 12:44:20 AM

Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list.

Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw.

They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Nice prediction from most of us here, Oscar Valdez the underdog won the fight, I wonder what the odds was on Oscar Valdez winning by KO in 10-12 rounds. Anyway, that was a big win Oscar Valdez , congrats to him and to all who back him to win.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 21, 2021, 12:44:20 AM

Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list.

Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw.

They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 21, 2021, 12:44:20 AM

Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

Yes, he fought perfectly and that left hook ended the fight for Berchelt. It could be the effect of covid for Miguel (not making excuses for him), but he seems to be running out of gas in the latter round and not moving as he used to be. Or perhaps the weight cut itself. It was not a brawl because Valdez knows that he is not going to win with that kind of fight. KO of the year for now.

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As I have said, it will be a technical fight for Valdez and that left hook? too precise and I will say they have perfected it, with Canelo, Garcia and now Valdez have it in their arsenal now.

Brawler vs a technical fighter? we already see the outcome in the past and just like today, Valdez proof that superiority will negate any offensive volume puncher.

I can't remember if I read that there will be a rematch clause or not.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 21, 2021, 12:44:20 AM

Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

I will nominate this as a knock out of the year although it's early, this deserves a runaway winner for a knock out of the month, you really cannot disregard the power of a knockout puncher, he can finish the fight with one punch and that's what happens to Miguel Berchelt, I rule out a rematch here Valdez performance is too much for Miguel Berchelt.

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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

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