[Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title - page 5.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 07, 2021, 04:43:34 PM

One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.

Eddie Reynoso is a great trainer, he can contribute a lot in this fight, but it will all go down to his fighting heart and his training and of course power and style, they are very much similar in style, we always like to see boxers who go all out, because they have the same style that makes this an exciting bout there's a saying style makes the fight, even though both fighters are not well known this is not going to be a boring fight.

Yes, this is a tailor made fight, both have the same style of just fighting forward and throw as many punch as they can to hurt the other side. And with Eddie Reynoso at Valdez side, they could come up a plan that can offset's Berchelt. It could be more head movement for Valdez and then increasing the body attacks as they move along or as the fight progresses.

Both possesses strong stamina, so I guess Valdez will really have to train for that and increase it so that he can remain fresh in this fight. Or just picking his punch to not gas out.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 07, 2021, 04:43:34 PM

One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.

Eddie Reynoso is a great trainer, he can contribute a lot in this fight, but it will all go down to his fighting heart and his training and of course power and style, they are very much similar in style, we always like to see boxers who go all out, because they have the same style that makes this an exciting bout there's a saying style makes the fight, even though both fighters are not well known this is not going to be a boring fight.

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One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.

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This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided.

Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion.

After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent

Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here.

Mexicans have been throughout boxing history, has been a warrior. And I agree at least in this pandemic we will see a slug fest, fist for fist, although Miguel Berchelt has the edge but Oscar Valdez has also a knock out punch that can really change the fight. In the fight goes to 12 rounds, we will see a bloodbath here.

I have never seen any of their full fight but based on their record, we can tell that they are really a slugger and that's what fans would really want to see. Mexicans and Filipinos should be the model in boxing, they give an entertaining fight, unlike other fighters where they just hit, clinch and run.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 01, 2021, 08:06:04 AM

This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided.

Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion.

After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent

Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here.

Mexicans have been throughout boxing history, has been a warrior. And I agree at least in this pandemic we will see a slug fest, fist for fist, although Miguel Berchelt has the edge but Oscar Valdez has also a knock out punch that can really change the fight. In the fight goes to 12 rounds, we will see a bloodbath here.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 06, 2021, 06:00:05 PM

Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here.

There is a saying in boxing style makes fight and this is what instances where you will see two slugger fight it out, we hope they will not fail our expectation, both fighters love to go all out and since it is a title fight, we'll see two great Mexican warriors slug it out all out for the title.
I'll go for Miguel Berchelt he has a better win and knockout percentage coming to this fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 01, 2021, 08:06:04 AM

This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided.

Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion.

After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent

Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 05, 2021, 10:54:37 AM

To add to that, this fight has been brewing since last year, but has to be postponed because Berchelt was tested positive of Covid-19. So take this in consideration when you are going to bet on this fight. If the fight goes to distance, maybe just maybe it can affect him physically. So I hope that is not the case for Berchelt here.

Just curious, have we seen boxers who have been infected by the virus and then comeback and fight and then lose some steam because of the effect?

Quote from: Baofeng on February 05, 2021, 10:54:37 AM

But I agree, this is a battle of two champions, Mexican blood flowing in their veins so this will be war and this will probably might not go to distance and end up with a KO. Odds are good for Oscar Valdez, (wink, wink), Wink

That's what we love about Mexicans and that's why there are rivalries even from Mexicans themselves. But we love to see Mexicans vs Filipinos or Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans. But in this case I will go with the champion Berchelt he will be too much for Valdez. But this has the making of probably another Barerra vs Morales.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 05, 2021, 05:29:59 AM

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I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match.

Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez.

Oscar Valdez is the one who handed Genesis Servania his first career lose in boxing.

Servania, a former ALA fighter was once considered the future of Philippine boxing but that have changed when Oscar Valdez beat him.

Attached a highlight of their fight, see below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxXsVCAuoo

Thanks, bisdak!

I've watched the highlight and I can say that he has endurance and strong punches. I also didn't know that he's too popular or mean to say that his match with Servania from 2017 because it has a million views.

Damn, I'm missing a lot in the boxing industry. I only knew those popular matches.

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I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here.

toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see...
berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near.

For sure, when two Mexican faces in the ring, it's always a war and not a boring fight.

No surprised that Miguel Berchelt is the slight favourite, but we can't discount the fact that Oscar Valdez is also a champion and going up in weight class to challenge Berchelt. I think the winner here will be the most active fighters each and every round, throwing everything with bad intentions or to knock out each other. The odds will remain that though, I'm not seeing any flip as the fight gets near.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 05, 2021, 05:02:22 PM

Quote from: Saisher on February 05, 2021, 04:58:13 PM

I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here.

toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see...
berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near.

For what reason you think the odds will change? The line opened at 1.27 for Miguel Berchelt, it's not a 50/50 chances fight for both boxers according to bookies, so no reason the line will significantly changes, unless there some unexpected things that will happen.

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Quote from: Saisher on February 05, 2021, 04:58:13 PM

I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here.

toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see...
berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near.

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I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here.

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Quote from: robelneo on February 04, 2021, 10:29:46 AM

I have to spend more than thirty minutes checking about the status and style of both fighters, and I have to agree that this is going to be a making-of good fight both fighters love to go all out, both are slugger and do not back out of a fight although Miguel Berchelt is the champion and his title is on the line, Valdez has a good chance, I hope a link to a fight will be posted here, with both fighters having a good knock percentage, the fight will end in a knock out I'll go for Valdez, with a slight advantage.

Miguel Berchelt had that belt for a long time and he is pure destruction. Yes, both are slugger so this is really going to be a total Mexican brawl. Both has tougher chin as well and can get up of the canvass and continue to fight. Valdez is the one going up in weight here. But I still favour the champion, he has been in many wars and I would say more battle tested than Oscar Valdez.

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To add to that, this fight has been brewing since last year, but has to be postponed because Berchelt was tested positive of Covid-19. So take this in consideration when you are going to bet on this fight. If the fight goes to distance, maybe just maybe it can affect him physically. So I hope that is not the case for Berchelt here.

But I agree, this is a battle of two champions, Mexican blood flowing in their veins so this will be war and this will probably might not go to distance and end up with a KO. Odds are good for Oscar Valdez, (wink, wink), Wink

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Quote from: sunsilk on February 05, 2021, 04:13:39 AM

I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match.

Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez.

Oscar Valdez is the one who handed Genesis Servania his first career lose in boxing.

Servania, a former ALA fighter was once considered the future of Philippine boxing but that have changed when Oscar Valdez beat him.

Attached a highlight of their fight, see below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxXsVCAuoo

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I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match.

Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez.

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I have to spend more than thirty minutes checking about the status and style of both fighters, and I have to agree that this is going to be a making-of good fight both fighters love to go all out, both are slugger and do not back out of a fight although Miguel Berchelt is the champion and his title is on the line, Valdez has a good chance, I hope a link to a fight will be posted here, with both fighters having a good knock percentage, the fight will end in a knock out I'll go for Valdez, with a slight advantage.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 01, 2021, 09:16:14 AM

I'm not familiar with this fight but since the thread was already created and the fight is going to happen this month, I think I'll put my interest to it.
The odds is good for the underdog, Oscar Valdez is still undefeated with 22 KOs from 28 wins, I think this kid has a decent KO rate.

That's one of the reason why i'm making a thread about this fight, though Oscar Valdez is moving up in weight to fight Berchelt, he had a decent chance of defeating the champ.

In terms of the quality of opponents both fighters have faced, Berchelt have the advantage and this maybe the reason why bookies have put him the favorite but with the KO rate of both fighters i think this won't go the distance and it could go either way and if odds for a KO win for Valdez is very tempting then i would not hesitate to pull the trigger

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Quote from: ReiMomo on February 01, 2021, 02:39:28 PM

It seems like, Oscar Valdez will the majority choice from bettors.

That's not correct, Berchelt has the 1.27 betting odds hence, he is the favorites to win the fight, the lower the betting odds means the higher the chances to win and that makes Berchelt the favorites.

Check on this post, he attached the betting odds from different sportsbook/

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