[Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title - page 3.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 17, 2021, 10:28:48 PM

The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting.

It's a good risk in my opinion, as others have pointed out, he is a live underdog here. Berchelt though is hard to knock down because he has a good good chin. But if Valdez can edge him out and use ring IQ to outscore Berchelt in every round then he has a high chance of winning in the judges scorecard. So yes this is very much as exciting as any other all Mexican fights that we have seen in recent years.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 17, 2021, 03:56:57 PM

It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years.

Ohh, i didn't know this one, thanks for bringing up this information here bro, learned a lot from you Cool

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^^ more options now on what/how to bet and it seems that bookies are not expecting a decision on this fight huh.

Yeah, Flash Elorde was the original belt holder of super featherweight, even WBA.

Oscar Valdez all the way for me, by decision or by knock-out in my book. And then I will narrow it down per round a day before the fight.

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The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 17, 2021, 06:30:07 PM

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Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open).

Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight.

Oscar Valdez by decision, such a great odds, would you take that or the Oscar Valdez winning by KO which is at x6.
Also, the draw is quite attractive, who knows this game will end up a draw if Oscar Valdez can't take KO the favorites in this fight.

It's really a win-win bet for Oscar Valdez since he is the underdog here.

More odds are available and very juicy specially if you see Valdez winning in middle rounds and up through KO/TKO. Although you need to spread out your stake for each round. So better pick only 2-3 rounds to get a big win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 17, 2021, 06:11:07 PM

Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open).

Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight.

Oscar Valdez by decision, such a great odds, would you take that or the Oscar Valdez winning by KO which is at x6.
Also, the draw is quite attractive, who knows this game will end up a draw if Oscar Valdez can't take KO the favorites in this fight.

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Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open).

Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 17, 2021, 03:56:57 PM

It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years.

Ohh, i didn't know this one, thanks for bringing up this information here bro, learned a lot from you Cool

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^^ more options now on what/how to bet and it seems that bookies are not expecting a decision on this fight huh.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 16, 2021, 06:04:53 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 16, 2021, 03:35:41 PM

Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp:

Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue

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At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.

BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application.

https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481

I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner.

Just a minor glitch Grin

, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol.

Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again.

With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6.

Not saying that it will be postponed again, but if Caballero can't secure his Visa and not enter the US fight night, it might create some mental problems with Miguel, hehehe.

It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 16, 2021, 06:04:53 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 16, 2021, 03:35:41 PM

Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp:

Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue

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At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.

BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application.

https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481

I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner.

Just a minor glitch Grin

, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol.

Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again.

With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6.

Yes, I think their lawyers can straighten things up and I'm sure he will be in the corner of Miguel fight night. And I don't think it will be postponed just because the main trainer is not there, they still have a lot in his corner though.

It will be interesting if Miguel can break the record of JCC Sr if he did then he will be in the books as one of the greatest Super Featherweight champion in recent years.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 16, 2021, 06:41:22 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on February 12, 2021, 09:26:56 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 12, 2021, 06:17:26 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

then technically it is called an upset.

That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight.

Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?

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William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog

Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma.

But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.

I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen.

Exactly, Mexicans are warriors inside the ring, and that's why Pacquiao was once called Mexican destroyer and earn a lot of respect not just from the Mexicans but almost all of the boxers up to this day.

And for those who are not familiar, the lineage of great super featherweights in the last 15 years includes, Mexicans, JMM, Morales, Barrera and the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 12, 2021, 09:26:56 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 12, 2021, 06:17:26 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

then technically it is called an upset.

That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight.

Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?

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William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog

Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma.

But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.

I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 16, 2021, 03:35:41 PM

Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp:

Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue

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At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.

BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application.

https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481

I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner.

Just a minor glitch Grin

, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol.

Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again.

With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6.

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Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp:

Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue

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At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.

BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application.

https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481

I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 12, 2021, 06:17:26 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

then technically it is called an upset.

That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight.

Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?

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William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog

Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma.

But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

then technically it is called an upset.

That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight.

Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?

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William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 12, 2021, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Botnake on February 12, 2021, 10:05:36 AM

That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement.

By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.

This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion.

Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite.

One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight.

There will be betting option for us that's for sure and it could be added by our favourite sportbookies as we get closer to the fight. @1.27 still good for those who love to go with the favourites, but again, you have to be a whale and bet big to get a decent profit for Berchelt.

Yes, this is winnable for Valdez, and it's going to be exciting match. Still when you are the underdog and wins the fight, then technically it is called an upset.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 12, 2021, 10:05:36 AM

That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement.

By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.

This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion.

Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite.

One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight.

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Miguel Berchelt here has a good at the inside and I think this fight could be won by Miguel Berchelt by a stoppage I think that is a possibility Oscar Valdez even though he doesn't have any lost yet doesn't mean he is going to be undefeatable, But both have good combination and power on their strikes but I felt that Miguel Berchelt can surely win this, his NC record was a total win for him against Eleazar Valenzuela, Berchelt declared the winner by TKO and a most notable fight I think he ever made.

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 12, 2021, 08:39:30 AM

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 10, 2021, 05:04:37 PM

Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days):

Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs
Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs

So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312

Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days.

I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion.

I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight.

But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021.

Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog.

Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports.

That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement.

By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 11, 2021, 08:30:32 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 10, 2021, 07:49:16 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 10, 2021, 05:04:37 PM

Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days):

Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs
Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs

So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312

Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days.

I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion.

I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight.

But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021.

Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog.

Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports.

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