[Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title - page 2.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 11:53:50 PM

Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?

That was a brutal knock out Berchelt is just too slow to see it Valdez is waiting patiently to land that knocks out punch, if there is a rematch stipulation then they are likely to go for a rematch but with that kind of knock out Berchelt should take some time I'm surprised on Berchelt he is moving forward without defense that punches come in when he is moving forward, it's a lunge punch and well-timed.

watch the whole fight here
https://youtu.be/QYUVelu8hE0

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 20, 2021, 08:49:51 PM

Any link out there mate?

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream.

Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 03:56:24 PM

Quote from: Jating on February 20, 2021, 02:31:59 AM

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin

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Any link out there mate?

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 03:56:24 PM

Quote from: Jating on February 20, 2021, 02:31:59 AM

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin

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I agree Valdez has an able method to move quickly and easily than Berchelt but that's not enough to judge who the winner of the fight will be, Reynoso in the corner or not Berchelt has already studied the weakness of Valdez despite his dazzling move.
Having said that, I believe Berchelt we will win this fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 03:56:24 PM

Quote from: Jating on February 20, 2021, 02:31:59 AM

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin

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That's their job, but these boxers job is to entertain the crowd the best they can, it would be nice if we will see a real fight where one really has the intention to knock out the other, Mexicans are known for that so I guess our expectation in this game is high, but in terms of the winner, we might have different picks.

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Quote from: Jating on February 20, 2021, 02:31:59 AM

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin

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Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2021, 01:53:13 AM

Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch.

Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt.

And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand.

Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. Just take for example the fight of Manny vs Marquez (the last fight), Manny is already for a kill but Marquez hit him with a good counter punch that sent him into the canvass and he was not able to get up anymore.

I agree a good counter puncher will negate an offensive puncher just like Miguel Berchelt, that's why this is really going to be technical for Valdez if he really wanted to him. We can't complain with his left hook at it also devastated a lot of fighters he face, so that will be his best weapon against a come forward Miguel Berchelt.

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 19, 2021, 06:22:29 PM

I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion.

Yes, he has been in a lot of wars trying to defend that belt, and as someone says, a volume puncher which is harder to fight unless you have the tools to counter part, which Valdez possesses, - left hook. Odds have been posted here, but just to make sure as there could be changes fight night. Yes, this is going to be explosive as no one wants to back up because these two are known to be warrior inside the ring.

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There's probably a bunch of people that will stream it in Facebook though, might want to take a look at it although as the fight started, most of them are being taken down, Lol. Hope that @bisdak40 will share the links if it is up and running tomorrow.

Both of them weight on the dot, but Miguel Berchelt looks physically big here and he has more muscle to show. But both look good, interesting to see how big these two when rehydrated as both are heavy puncher and their weight in fight night will be critical.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 19, 2021, 06:22:29 PM

I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion.

I once posted links of boxing fights but unfortunately their website is down maybe because of legal issues.

Below is some info on how to watch the fight and i do hope that some users will have some knowledge and post the links here.

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PROGRAMMING UPDATE 🚨
Saturday's #BercheltValdez ESPN main card will also simultaneously be available for streaming on ESPN+.
🥊 UNDERCARD: ESPN+ at 6:30pm ET / 3:30pm PT
🥊 MAIN CARD: ESPN & ESPN+ at 10pm ET / 7pm PT

Below is the link of the weigh-in, both boxers look ripped and ready for the brawl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JleWdKbdts

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I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 19, 2021, 05:19:02 PM

Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2021, 01:53:13 AM

Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch.

Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt.

And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand.

Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. Just take for example the fight of Manny vs Marquez (the last fight), Manny is already for a kill but Marquez hit him with a good counter punch that sent him into the canvass and he was not able to get up anymore.

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Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2021, 01:53:13 AM

Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch.

Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt.

And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand. Let's see what Eddy Reynoso's ace here to upset the champion.

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Quote from: Cling18 on February 18, 2021, 10:46:44 PM

My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight.

Oscar Valdez already proved everyone that he is a winner, his been undefeated until now, but this is a big fight for him so he should prepare for this as he is an underdog and usually a dog would only win if he fight convincingly so judges will give him the score or knock out his opponent, no bias judges can play their game.

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^^ That's why the way Oscar Valdez and Ryan Garcia is throwing that left hook is very similar because they have the same trainer, and so is Canelo Alvarez.

Oscar Valdez highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfswsx7qMD0
Miguel Berchelt highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5AElug8mRA

Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch.

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Quote from: Cling18 on February 18, 2021, 10:46:44 PM

My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight.

He is the obvious favorite and the champion and a very rough and tough fighter. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the favorite. However, Oscar Valdez is also a champion and coming up in weight and has a solid punch, and he has Reynoso as his head trainer that's why gamblers here are putting a bet on him. So it's a compelling fight, and we all know if two Mexicans gets into the ring, expect a war. So don't sleep on Valdez.

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My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight.

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Here's the face off,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-mNm5oUiyM

Two bad ass mofo facing each other 2 days from now, I'm sure boxing fans are very excited.

And it seems there is a mutual respect between them.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 18, 2021, 05:19:54 PM

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The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting.

Love the underdog here and I love how bettors here sees the underdog will win. I don't really know these fighters but based on the record of the underdog, it's very enticing to bet on him, he doesn't loss a single game yet, so that confidence is still flowing in him.

I remember watching Valdez fight Scott Quigg in an outdoor arena while it was pouring rain and very cold. Quigg came in very overweight for the fight but Valdez still agreed to face him. During the fight Valdez had his jaw broken early and fought most of the night with blood coming out of his mouth. Even with all this adversity he managed to win the fight. He is one of the toughest warriors I have seen.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 17, 2021, 09:28:48 PM

The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting.

Love the underdog here and I love how bettors here sees the underdog will win. I don't really know these fighters but based on the record of the underdog, it's very enticing to bet on him, he doesn't loss a single game yet, so that confidence is still flowing in him.

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