I have Oscar just winning slightly on my scorecard, but his performance is bad, in my opinion. It's too bad that Robson was very close to become a world champion, but he let his feet of the pedal, that's why Oscar was able to recover and come back and win the fight. What I don't like though is one judge scoring it for Valdez 117-111.
I'm locking the thread now, let's continue our discussion on the potential fighter that Oscar might face next, [Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson.
Topic: [Boxing]: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 10th (Read 480 times)
It was really a close fight, I have Robson winning the first five rounds. But Valdez sensing defeat rallied in the last seven to win by a unanimous decision.
Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
I also have him winning if you are a challenger you should be the one going and start engaging you must take the belt from the champion by being aggressive, but Conceicao does not have this, he is very careful and wants to protect his early leads, there's controversy in the fight but definitely agree on the decision, Conceicao should be the more aggressive fighter here, he should show superiority on the fight being a challenger.Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
A win is a win, but winning like a champion is what matters most I think. And yes, the challenger should be the one showing more aggression than the title holder in my opinion. Still, Oscar Valdez has won, but I feel like the match could have been better for Oscar. Not being more aggressive maybe has cost Robson the title here. If he was more aggressive from the start, maybe Valdez would have got passive and maybe Robson could have had the upper hand. But whatever, congrats to Oscar for winning.
then the momentum changed and robson becomes the defensive one in which different in the beginning .
robson did not give away the second half its just that valdez comes wild and stronger in the middle of the game.
I saw the fight and I agree that Valdez deserves the win, judges favor fighters who dominate in the second half of the fight and Valdez do just that, Conceicao lacks the aggressiveness to show that he deserves the win Valdez is the aggressive fighter even if he is wild in punches he connects some of it and Conceicao lacks the spirit to clash.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit. Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
i watched the fight just now and it seems that Robson did his best specially in first half , he dominate the whole ring but when valdez comes back to his feet in second half?then the momentum changed and robson becomes the defensive one in which different in the beginning .
robson did not give away the second half its just that valdez comes wild and stronger in the middle of the game.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit. Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
Honestly, the fight was close but as champion, he expectedly won the fight with that kind of movement from the challenger. Like the boxing speculators on youtube said, he should be more cautious and increase his punches until the end of the round but what can you expect when the champion has better experience and knows how to totally dominate him in the late rounds.
Valdez does increased his punch output from round 6 onwards, and this sway the judges in his favour. While Robson numbers went down, get deducted a point and then seems to be running out of gas in the championship rounds. If Robson would just stay active, he could have won some rounds that might put this fight in his favour or even a draw. But Valdez as you have said is the champion and his corner provided him with good advise as well. And as for the ban substance, it seems the Valdez is weight drain at 130 lbs, but if he moves to 135 lbs, there's a lot of sharks there. Teofimo Lopez, Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis, he wouldn't last with this bad mofo.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit. Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
True, he become so complacent in the middle rounds which is wrong for a challenger. He thought that he can score points by playing defense, and it's good that the judge get it correct this time. Otherwise, it will be another controversial decision. The aggressor always wins against a defensive fighter or at least not throwing punches. Maybe Shakur will be the next big fight in this division.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit. Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
Honestly, the fight was close but as champion, he expectedly won the fight with that kind of movement from the challenger. Like the boxing speculators on youtube said, he should be more cautious and increase his punches until the end of the round but what can you expect when the champion has better experience and knows how to totally dominate him in the late rounds.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit.
That's a wrong way to fight a championship he had one point deducted already but he is very complacent on the second half, he is a challenger here he should fight aggressively it looks like he treated this as a regular fight and not a championship fight, Valdez deserves the win he is always going after Robson Conceicao, I always side to aggressive fighter especially a challenger, judges always favor a champion and it's for the challenger to prove that he deserves the win.
Too bad for Conceicao he scared of Valdez after Valdez's counter punch hit him on Round 6, Conceicao only dominating the first 5 Round and rest 7 Round he more slowly and running away until each Rounds over. Seems the big shots from Valdez really hard and powerful.
Valdez really show how he really deserved to retain the WBC super featherweight title, his face a lot of scar but his stamina and accuration didn't fell.
Valdez really show how he really deserved to retain the WBC super featherweight title, his face a lot of scar but his stamina and accuration didn't fell.
Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
Of course many people will doubt it since Valdez performance is quite odd from the first 5 Round and next 7 Round. 
It was really a close fight, I have Robson winning the first five rounds. But Valdez sensing defeat rallied in the last seven to win by a unanimous decision.
Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
I also have him winning if you are a challenger you should be the one going and start engaging you must take the belt from the champion by being aggressive, but Conceicao does not have this, he is very careful and wants to protect his early leads, there's controversy in the fight but definitely agree on the decision, Conceicao should be the more aggressive fighter here, he should show superiority on the fight being a challenger.
Robson started out strong but he gave away the entire second half of the fight. When Valdez started to pressure him he just ran away or held but forgot about throwing punches. He used his height and reach very well early on but his strategy fell apart when he started getting hit. Valdez just edged out a win and after this performance and his positive test there is going to be a lot of doubts about him.
It was really a close fight, I have Robson winning the first five rounds. But Valdez sensing defeat rallied in the last seven to win by a unanimous decision.
Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
Not sure though, he start sluggish and very slow in the early rounds, perhaps it was because of the news about him being positive of a ban substance? I'm not impressed by his performance, but a win is a win. It is far from his performance against Miguel Berchelt.
The fight end up favoring valdez still , he had depended His title against Caceicao
so any bets mate on this Odds? coz i missed my chance lol .
I have lost all my funds after pacquiao Loss in His recent fight so now i am starting to gain funds again for the next boxing fight I'm gonna bet lol.
so any bets mate on this Odds? coz i missed my chance lol .
I have lost all my funds after pacquiao Loss in His recent fight so now i am starting to gain funds again for the next boxing fight I'm gonna bet lol.
^^ Most likely yes, this could end up in a draw but it's hard to predict who are going to win.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
For sure this allegations are serious, I mean his sample turns out to be a positive, but he denied it in the media. But it still hinges in our mind if he is really clean or not. And as much as we wanted not to be distracted by this news, it will eventually.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
Why not? Pacquiao lost to Ugas, so it's possible that maybe Oscar Valdez is not 100% mentally in this fight.
Anyone here was able to put a bet? I check Stake and Sportsbet right now and it seems they removed it?
In any case, I wanted to bet on Robson Conceicao, he is the underdog and I think he will have to jab his way to win against Oscar Valdez, he has a decent chin as well, that might hold against Valdez left hook. And then he can throw his body shots, this is going to be a good fight for sure.
In any case, I wanted to bet on Robson Conceicao, he is the underdog and I think he will have to jab his way to win against Oscar Valdez, he has a decent chin as well, that might hold against Valdez left hook. And then he can throw his body shots, this is going to be a good fight for sure.
^^ Most likely yes, this could end up in a draw but it's hard to predict who are going to win.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
I think Oscar Valdez is affected psychologically by this substance issue, he may not show it but definitely, it has an effect.
What a lame alibi below, how come he does not know anything that goes to his body, or maybe his nutritionist hides something that de doesn't know.
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Valdez: I'm A Hundred-Percent Clean Fighter; Don't Know How Phentermine Got Into My Body
A knockout win for Oscar is not attractive betting wise so i did go for Oscar Valdez via Decision @3.35, substance out of the body so not so much power to KO Rob Conceicao, just kidding lol.
Just a couple of days before this fight, and it's weird that sports bookies are missing this big fight.
They've listed unknown fighters with betting lines already, but this one is not even covered, weird.
In any case, I can't bet on this one if this is not offered by crypto bookies, I don't like fiat base, because they've ask to much info.
They've listed unknown fighters with betting lines already, but this one is not even covered, weird.
In any case, I can't bet on this one if this is not offered by crypto bookies, I don't like fiat base, because they've ask to much info.
Maybe we should remind the representatives of those online bookies to cover this fight since Oscar Valdez has many users here who are a fan of him, including me of course hehe.
I think they forgot that this fight is a go despite the substance controversy that Valdez is into or this is a form of boycott of the bookies for what Valdez has done, what ya think?
No need to bother them, it seems that they are reading this thread:
Although it is not yet open, at least they have opted to include this already, so that's a good news for us boxer bettors.
The only thing to do is just wait, the fight is in 48 hours, so maybe tomorrow they will open the betting already so that's 24 hours for us to pull the trigger on this one.
The complete list of betting odds are now available, you can check the updated market again.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/valdez-oscar-vs-conceicao-robson-6139c3707c3dc7742835a5e3
Any chance this fight will end up in a draw? the odds is currently @26, that's hard to resist, I think.
That's possible but unlikely because Valdez is the heavy favorite to win this fight @1.39. The odds are pretty much similar to Pacquiao vs Ugas, maybe we will see a big upset here after Valdez had some controversy answering the substance found in the test.
So what's your pick guys?
I think this fight will be tomorrow in my timezone?
That's why we should put our bet now so we will be able to enjoy it more when we are watching live.
^^ Most likely yes, this could end up in a draw but it's hard to predict who are going to win.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
He sure is okay, I hope he will not be affected as all I want to see is him fighting but the result is a draw, lol.
Valdez and Conceicao both have an undefeated record, so this should be a fight between the best.
^^ Most likely yes, this could end up in a draw but it's hard to predict who are going to win.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
Just begs me the question, how is Valdez mind in this fight, he has been accused of using a ban substance and it might affect him psychologically in this fight.
So again, another good fight to watch this weekend depending on your timezone. We love to see another underdog pull an upset here.
That's possible but unlikely because Valdez is the heavy favorite to win this fight @1.39. The odds are pretty much similar to Pacquiao vs Ugas, maybe we will see a big upset here after Valdez had some controversy answering the substance found in the test.
So what's your pick guys?
I think this fight will be tomorrow in my timezone?
But both Valdez and Conceicao still in prime condition/young also both of them still undefeated, so the chance more possible ended as draw. I'm a fan of Valdez he's a Mexican boxer as we know many boxer from Mexico are strong. So what's your pick guys?
I think this fight will be tomorrow in my timezone?
But Conceicao is taller than Valdez it's an advantages for him, reminds me of Pacquiao vs Ugas before. I think I'll pick Conceicao for this fight with small bet.
I think Conceicao is a live underdog here, don't sleep on him, the two have history when they were in the amateurs, Conceicao beat Valdez. Of course, this is pro rank now and they have improved a lot since then. Conceicao went on to win golds in the Olympics and then Valdez become a world champion now. But this is going to be close, so it could end up in a draw or by decision.
That's possible but unlikely because Valdez is the heavy favorite to win this fight @1.39. The odds are pretty much similar to Pacquiao vs Ugas, maybe we will see a big upset here after Valdez had some controversy answering the substance found in the test.
So what's your pick guys?
I think this fight will be tomorrow in my timezone?
But both Valdez and Conceicao still in prime condition/young also both of them still undefeated, so the chance more possible ended as draw. I'm a fan of Valdez he's a Mexican boxer as we know many boxer from Mexico are strong. So what's your pick guys?
I think this fight will be tomorrow in my timezone?
But Conceicao is taller than Valdez it's an advantages for him, reminds me of Pacquiao vs Ugas before. I think I'll pick Conceicao for this fight with small bet.
That's a good pick, always go with the underdog as they might upset and you'll win more than 100% of your money with the current odds. Personally, I did not see any of their fights before but I like to take chances that Oscar Valdez 0 will become 1.
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