[Boxing]: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 10th - page 5.

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Quote from: Obito on July 26, 2021, 08:27:25 AM

Valdez is going to have a lower odds in this one since he is the favorite fighter in this one, I feel like Robson will have a hard time adjusting to the rules since it's a bit different than that of Olympics but I do hope he will be able to acclimate and show that he can steal the crown from Valdez.

Most likely that will happen so that is not on our favour.

However, we all know that sport bookies will give us more options, much riskier but I'm sure majority here is willing to take that big risk to win big in this fight.

I also thought that Valdez can possibly win by a knock out as proven in his last fight that he can throw that left hook with so much power behind. So the best bet here is to put like what round/s Valdez going to knock out Robson. It will be an accomplishment for Robson to last 12 rounds here, since he lacks the experience.

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Valdez is going to have a lower odds in this one since he is the favorite fighter in this one, I feel like Robson will have a hard time adjusting to the rules since it's a bit different than that of Olympics but I do hope he will be able to acclimate and show that he can steal the crown from Valdez.

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Many are really disappointed about moving down of class of Valdez just to defend his title against Conceicao, who still needs to accomplish a thing after 4 years of being a pro boxer, But after seeing this I think that Conceicao needs to prove himself to the people, and because many are pretty much one-sided by this and all were in favor with Oscar Valdez and many are predicting that this could be a TKO win for Valdez, that is why Robson Conceicao really needs to prove himself and prove that the hype are all wrong.

Definitely, Top Rank has given him the perfect opportunity to showcase his talent against Valdez, so he should take this very seriously if he wanted to be the next so called cash cow or champion. But then again, Valdez has already proven himself, going up in weight and beat Miguel in a war. So he is just testing the mettle here and could win against a inexperience fighter in Robson.

This is really their opportunity of a lifetime and could change his life forever, I have seen many stories change their life with boxing, and if Conceicao Robson won against Valdez this is going to be his big break, and many more opportunities will come to him, Both fighters are undefeated but Valdez has the upper experience, in my opinion, Valdez is 30 while Conceicao is 32 without any opportunity for him instead this one time, we clearly see that Oscar Valdez is the favorite here, and if there will be odd for these two I think Valdez will be more ahead on the odds, but I think there will be risk gamblers that may take on Robson Conceicao side because they want to win much money because of the great number on the odds.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on July 25, 2021, 06:05:39 AM

Many are really disappointed about moving down of class of Valdez just to defend his title against Conceicao, who still needs to accomplish a thing after 4 years of being a pro boxer, But after seeing this I think that Conceicao needs to prove himself to the people, and because many are pretty much one-sided by this and all were in favor with Oscar Valdez and many are predicting that this could be a TKO win for Valdez, that is why Robson Conceicao really needs to prove himself and prove that the hype are all wrong.

Definitely, Top Rank has given him the perfect opportunity to showcase his talent against Valdez, so he should take this very seriously if he wanted to be the next so called cash cow or champion. But then again, Valdez has already proven himself, going up in weight and beat Miguel in a war. So he is just testing the mettle here and could win against a inexperience fighter in Robson.

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I'm checking Robson Conceicao boxrec here; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/772975. No experience yet, so yes this is a cherry pick fight for Valdez obviously. With only 16 fights under Robson's belt, I don't think he has enough experienced to give Oscar some problems. All I can see is that this kid is tall, almost 5'11 and that might posed some issues with Oscar early, but for sure he can adjust as the fight goes on and maybe can score a KO/TKO with his now famous and developed left hook under coach Reynoso.

Oscar Valdez is under the banner of Top Rank, which is good at building their fighters through cherry picking boxers that will show the strength of their cash cow, in this case Valdez is being brewed to be the next one.

So no surprised that they have to pick a fighter with less experience but with the selling point of being a Olympic gold medalist.

Haha, very true. Oscar's last fight against Miguel was awesome if you are an ordinary boxing fan as he looks very good in that fight. He goes up in weight to beat Miguel which for me is very doable since the latter is so slow and Top Rank exploited that to make Oscar's stock goes up just like what they did to Manny Pacquiao.

Yeah, it's a careful match making in which Top Rank is good at although they have been criticized.

I don't want to mentioned Manny Pacquiao, but he is the classic example of Top Rank's cherry picking history. Not to discredit the legend himself, but his rose has something to do with this move.

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 24, 2021, 10:35:12 PM

With Robson Conceicao a gold medalist in the Olympics, this may be enough to sell some tickets though but pro boxing and Olympic boxing is very different from each other so we can expect Oscar to demolish Robson come fight night.

It's good in paper to fight a Olympic gold medalist. But amateur is very different from pro, and there are good Olympians who didn't succeed when they goes to the pro rank.

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Many are really disappointed about moving down of class of Valdez just to defend his title against Conceicao, who still needs to accomplish a thing after 4 years of being a pro boxer, But after seeing this I think that Conceicao needs to prove himself to the people, and because many are pretty much one-sided by this and all were in favor with Oscar Valdez and many are predicting that this could be a TKO win for Valdez, that is why Robson Conceicao really needs to prove himself and prove that the hype are all wrong.

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I've checked Robson record and matches on Youtube of course the best place to check and this is what I saw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZC3sXYb1dg, Robson is a boxer who loves to engage he is a volume puncher but lacks the knockout punch to take out his opponent with a single punch, he has experienced in amateur boxing and there are still traces of amateur in his fighting style, I have a hard time believing that he can keep up with Valdez, I'll go for Valdez on this match.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 24, 2021, 10:35:12 PM

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With Robson Conceicao a gold medalist in the Olympics, this may be enough to sell some tickets though but pro boxing and Olympic boxing is very different from each other so we can expect Oscar to demolish Robson come fight night.

Agreed, the amateur boxing is different from pro one, and definitely, Robson is underdog in the coming bout. IMO, Robson should extensively train a chin protection otherwise he will fall early. The trick that might work for him is steadily backward movement, face down, facing opponent to avoid punching attack into the head. I'm waiting TKO from Oscar in the second half of the fight.

history says both of them are gold medalists in Olympics. both must be trained hard already before going to the proboxing. Conceicao, however, seems to have fewer fights but has a shot to fight against Valdez for the super featherweight title. great opportunity really.

these boxers are very achievers you can tell by their records. Conceicao 8 win fights all by way of KO. Valdez has 29 fights and 23 by KO!

Right, but as far as experience goes, Oscar Valdez has the advantage because he has proven himself already. Unless Robson is very special Olympian like Loma who become world champion is less than 10 fights. But I'm not seeing it on Robson, might be a good mid-tier fighter in this division and might go up in weight because he is too tall for this weight class and his body can't squeeze that inside his 5'10" body frame.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 24, 2021, 10:35:12 PM

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With Robson Conceicao a gold medalist in the Olympics, this may be enough to sell some tickets though but pro boxing and Olympic boxing is very different from each other so we can expect Oscar to demolish Robson come fight night.

Agreed, the amateur boxing is different from pro one, and definitely, Robson is underdog in the coming bout. IMO, Robson should extensively train a chin protection otherwise he will fall early. The trick that might work for him is steadily backward movement, face down, facing opponent to avoid punching attack into the head. I'm waiting TKO from Oscar in the second half of the fight.

Hah, there is no such training that will get your chin stronger. I remember Amir Khan, he has a weak chin, trained under famed boxing coach Freddy Roach. All they can do is to strengthen his neck muscles to somewhat absorb the power, but it's not enough as Khan still loses with a KO.

As for the fight, Valdez should win this, but he shouldn't take Robson lightly. He is 5'10 and I will say that has power in both hands.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 24, 2021, 10:35:12 PM

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With Robson Conceicao a gold medalist in the Olympics, this may be enough to sell some tickets though but pro boxing and Olympic boxing is very different from each other so we can expect Oscar to demolish Robson come fight night.

Agreed, the amateur boxing is different from pro one, and definitely, Robson is underdog in the coming bout. IMO, Robson should extensively train a chin protection otherwise he will fall early. The trick that might work for him is steadily backward movement, face down, facing opponent to avoid punching attack into the head. I'm waiting TKO from Oscar in the second half of the fight.

history says both of them are gold medalists in Olympics. both must be trained hard already before going to the proboxing. Conceicao, however, seems to have fewer fights but has a shot to fight against Valdez for the super featherweight title. great opportunity really.

these boxers are very achievers you can tell by their records. Conceicao 8 win fights all by way of KO. Valdez has 29 fights and 23 by KO!

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 24, 2021, 09:23:39 PM

Everybody wanted to see him unify with Herring but Herring has a mandatory against Shakur Stevenson he has to take care of. Stevenson is the favorite in that fight and the odds will be really even if he ends up fighting against Valdez. Conceicao is a good tune up for Valdez. He is an olympic gold medalist and so far he is undefeated as a pro fighter.

Is the Herring vs Stevenson finalised already? or it is in works?

That's also an interesting match as well, and I do agree that Shakur can win this won maybe on a UD.

As for Valdez, yes definitely a tune up fight for him, Conceicao hasn't proved anything in this division and then facing the champion. Wonder though how much money will he get in this fight just to become a tune up for Valdez, 80-20% split?

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 24, 2021, 09:23:48 PM

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I'm checking Robson Conceicao boxrec here; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/772975. No experience yet, so yes this is a cherry pick fight for Valdez obviously. With only 16 fights under Robson's belt, I don't think he has enough experienced to give Oscar some problems. All I can see is that this kid is tall, almost 5'11 and that might posed some issues with Oscar early, but for sure he can adjust as the fight goes on and maybe can score a KO/TKO with his now famous and developed left hook under coach Reynoso.

Oscar Valdez is under the banner of Top Rank, which is good at building their fighters through cherry picking boxers that will show the strength of their cash cow, in this case Valdez is being brewed to be the next one.

So no surprised that they have to pick a fighter with less experience but with the selling point of being a Olympic gold medalist.

Haha, very true. Oscar's last fight against Miguel was awesome if you are an ordinary boxing fan as he looks very good in that fight. He goes up in weight to beat Miguel which for me is very doable since the latter is so slow and Top Rank exploited that to make Oscar's stock goes up just like what they did to Manny Pacquiao.

With Robson Conceicao a gold medalist in the Olympics, this may be enough to sell some tickets though but pro boxing and Olympic boxing is very different from each other so we can expect Oscar to demolish Robson come fight night.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 24, 2021, 08:59:10 PM

I'm checking Robson Conceicao boxrec here; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/772975. No experience yet, so yes this is a cherry pick fight for Valdez obviously. With only 16 fights under Robson's belt, I don't think he has enough experienced to give Oscar some problems. All I can see is that this kid is tall, almost 5'11 and that might posed some issues with Oscar early, but for sure he can adjust as the fight goes on and maybe can score a KO/TKO with his now famous and developed left hook under coach Reynoso.

Oscar Valdez is under the banner of Top Rank, which is good at building their fighters through cherry picking boxers that will show the strength of their cash cow, in this case Valdez is being brewed to be the next one.

So no surprised that they have to pick a fighter with less experience but with the selling point of being a Olympic gold medalist.

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Everybody wanted to see him unify with Herring but Herring has a mandatory against Shakur Stevenson he has to take care of. Stevenson is the favorite in that fight and the odds will be really even if he ends up fighting against Valdez. Conceicao is a good tune up for Valdez. He is an olympic gold medalist and so far he is undefeated as a pro fighter.

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I'm checking Robson Conceicao boxrec here; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/772975. No experience yet, so yes this is a cherry pick fight for Valdez obviously. With only 16 fights under Robson's belt, I don't think he has enough experienced to give Oscar some problems. All I can see is that this kid is tall, almost 5'11 and that might posed some issues with Oscar early, but for sure he can adjust as the fight goes on and maybe can score a KO/TKO with his now famous and developed left hook under coach Reynoso.

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https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/7/20/22585577/oscar-valdez-vs-robson-conceicao-official-september-10-tucson-boxing-news-2021

After his huge win against Miguel Berchelt to snatch the WBC super featherweight belt, Oscar Valdez returns and defends his crown against Olympic gold medalist Robson Conceicao.

I know some of you might be disappointed on choosing a relatively unknown boxer in the division, but I think Valdez is taking it slowly as he just move up in this division and probably still feeling the weight category that's why he chooses Conceicao.

Odds are not yet out, but I reckon that Valdez will be the favourite here. Hopefully we will see another fight of the year performance from Oscar and keep this division alive.

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