[Boxing]: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 10th - page 4.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM

It is looking likely that this fight will get cancelled. Valdez tested positive for the stimulant phentermine. It was out of competition so the local boxing commission doesn't necessarily have to suspend him but he will probably lose his world title since he is being tested as part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

Valdez is using the excuse that the substance was in an herbal tea and he took it unknowingly. That is an incredibly weak excuse so it is likely he was using it for something prohibited. In my opinion he should be stripped of the world title and suspended for the next six months.

Not a strong excuse to prevent losing his title, rules are rules and once you've got caught, there's nothing you can do but to follow, as for sure there's other implemented rules regarding his case.

the suspension may follow his belt being removed from him, not sure, but in any sport, dietitian is important to know the substance of each intake that the player/fighter is using.

He's camp needs to be extra careful after this. There are lots of regrets by now but nothing that he can do.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM

It is looking likely that this fight will get cancelled. Valdez tested positive for the stimulant phentermine. It was out of competition so the local boxing commission doesn't necessarily have to suspend him but he will probably lose his world title since he is being tested as part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

That's weird, I thought that this drug is being used to lose weight, but in his last fight against Miguel Berchelt, he is going up in weight.

Another thing is that how his team let him take this drugs when they know the consequences of it. And now that he is stripped of the world title, he is back to square one again and all of his previous fights will be tainted with allegations.

Yeah, but it could be used as a masking agent, to hide other peds in your system.

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Oscar Valdez has failed a VADA test ahead of his planned Sept. 10 fight against Robson Conceicao, with Mike Coppinger reporting that the WBC junior lightweight titlist tested positive for a diuretic.

While diuretics are not steroids, they are familiar to the boxing world and to failed drug tests in the boxing world, as they can help fighters shed weight quickly ahead of a bout. But the biggest worry about them is they can be used as a masking agent for other substances, stuff more routinely thought of when people think of failed drug tests.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/8/31/22651015/oscar-valdez-tests-positive-banned-diuretic-next-fight-conceicao-boxing-news-2021

I also can't believed that Valdez and or his team did take the risk of taking this banned substance because they will be caught specially the stringent drug testing is being implement not just in boxing but across other sports.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM

It is looking likely that this fight will get cancelled. Valdez tested positive for the stimulant phentermine. It was out of competition so the local boxing commission doesn't necessarily have to suspend him but he will probably lose his world title since he is being tested as part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

That's weird, I thought that this drug is being used to lose weight, but in his last fight against Miguel Berchelt, he is going up in weight.

Another thing is that how his team let him take this drugs when they know the consequences of it. And now that he is stripped of the world title, he is back to square one again and all of his previous fights will be tainted with allegations.

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It is looking likely that this fight will get cancelled. Valdez tested positive for the stimulant phentermine. It was out of competition so the local boxing commission doesn't necessarily have to suspend him but he will probably lose his world title since he is being tested as part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

Valdez is using the excuse that the substance was in an herbal tea and he took it unknowingly. That is an incredibly weak excuse so it is likely he was using it for something prohibited. In my opinion he should be stripped of the world title and suspended for the next six months.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 31, 2021, 01:05:05 AM

Valdez already beat the best fighter in the division and will likely fight the winner of Herring vs.Stevenson in the near future. Sometimes it is ok for someone to have a showcase fight as long as they are still fighting the best. Canelo fought Yildirim and that was okay because he fought Billy Joe Saunders afterwards. The fight with Conceicao sold out very quickly so there is still demand to see this fight even though it is not the most well known opponent.

With his recent and awesome performance against Miguel Berchelt, people are wanting now to see more of Oscar Valdez that may be one of the many reasons why this fight with Conceicao sold out quickly. Top Rank is building up this guy so I expect a promotion that would make Oscar famous to the gambling capital of the US, Las Vegas. If he wins this another hurdle, I'm hoping that they will make the fight against Shakur Stevenson which for me would be the biggest fight of either's career.

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After his huge win against Miguel Berchelt to snatch the WBC super featherweight belt, Oscar Valdez returns and defends his crown against Olympic gold medalist Robson Conceicao.

I know some of you might be disappointed on choosing a relatively unknown boxer in the division, but I think Valdez is taking it slowly as he just move up in this division and probably still feeling the weight category that's why he chooses Conceicao.

Odds are not yet out, but I reckon that Valdez will be the favourite here. Hopefully we will see another fight of the year performance from Oscar and keep this division alive.

With that record I guess Oscar has the big potential of winning against his challenger and one thing that made him he become favorites of many people because he deserves all the hardwork. Though we don't see the odds yet, at least there's a amazing progress that we seen on him, and I believed he would able to defend his division as he win over all his fights.

Oscar Valdez has made a big progress, this is not his weight class, but he move up to challenge the champion and then won with an incredible knockout, so yes he deserves all the hard work becoming a champion and now defending it for the 1st time against Robson. But what's interesting is why he chooses this as his 1st fight after getting the belt. There was an argument that this is a cherry pick fight which I believed is true.

Valdez already beat the best fighter in the division and will likely fight the winner of Herring vs.Stevenson in the near future. Sometimes it is ok for someone to have a showcase fight as long as they are still fighting the best. Canelo fought Yildirim and that was okay because he fought Billy Joe Saunders afterwards. The fight with Conceicao sold out very quickly so there is still demand to see this fight even though it is not the most well known opponent.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2021, 10:45:22 AM

I think it will be a very entertaining fight as both fighters have never been defeated. Of course Oscar Valdes has twice as much experience, but Robson Conceicao shows very decent results in his four years of fighting. I'll be rooting for Robson, although I think that bookmakers are going to have a preference for Oscar Valdes.

Precisely when the bookmaker chooses for the Oscars you know you have to go against and choose Robson, That will be great, sometimes what you decide becomes a new reference for how people will rethink. Maybe Robson has something special that he can show later in the game. All possibilities can happen.

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After his huge win against Miguel Berchelt to snatch the WBC super featherweight belt, Oscar Valdez returns and defends his crown against Olympic gold medalist Robson Conceicao.

I know some of you might be disappointed on choosing a relatively unknown boxer in the division, but I think Valdez is taking it slowly as he just move up in this division and probably still feeling the weight category that's why he chooses Conceicao.

Odds are not yet out, but I reckon that Valdez will be the favourite here. Hopefully we will see another fight of the year performance from Oscar and keep this division alive.

With that record I guess Oscar has the big potential of winning against his challenger and one thing that made him he become favorites of many people because he deserves all the hardwork. Though we don't see the odds yet, at least there's a amazing progress that we seen on him, and I believed he would able to defend his division as he win over all his fights.

Oscar Valdez has made a big progress, this is not his weight class, but he move up to challenge the champion and then won with an incredible knockout, so yes he deserves all the hard work becoming a champion and now defending it for the 1st time against Robson. But what's interesting is why he chooses this as his 1st fight after getting the belt. There was an argument that this is a cherry pick fight which I believed is true.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 24, 2021, 06:52:27 PM

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https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/7/20/22585577/oscar-valdez-vs-robson-conceicao-official-september-10-tucson-boxing-news-2021

After his huge win against Miguel Berchelt to snatch the WBC super featherweight belt, Oscar Valdez returns and defends his crown against Olympic gold medalist Robson Conceicao.

I know some of you might be disappointed on choosing a relatively unknown boxer in the division, but I think Valdez is taking it slowly as he just move up in this division and probably still feeling the weight category that's why he chooses Conceicao.

Odds are not yet out, but I reckon that Valdez will be the favourite here. Hopefully we will see another fight of the year performance from Oscar and keep this division alive.

With that record I guess Oscar has the big potential of winning against his challenger and one thing that made him he become favorites of many people because he deserves all the hardwork. Though we don't see the odds yet, at least there's a amazing progress that we seen on him, and I believed he would able to defend his division as he win over all his fights.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on July 29, 2021, 12:20:43 PM

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Yes, Valdez will be the outstanding favorites here in any angle, and will do everything to derail's Valdez plans of fighting others champion in this division. As a underdog, we love to bet on them, we just don't know when they will pull a surprised. Not seeing the odds yet, but I have a feeling that it could be 5.x and above odds for him. So it's riskier for us, but we can just throw in some small bets and hopefully he can get the job done.

I really think that he can surely get the job done, and Oscar Valdez is surely the favorite here, but Conceicao still have the experience to win here, but it will be a risk to bet on him in my opinion, but I really think that the Odds will surely sore with Oscar Valdez side.

Yes, Oscar can get the job done as long as he will not under estimate Robson in this fight. But I love Robson and make it a hard and difficult fight as least in the early rounds and use his height and reach advantage. And then we will see how Oscar will adjust and how his team will prepare him against a tall fighter. It will be a big risk to beat on Robson, that's why just a small bets will do, just to make the fight more fun to watch. So bet what you can afford to lose if we are going to the underdog.

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we will bet if it can give satisfaction. Bettors will tend to choose an Oscar Valdez which man he has a plus for the match against Conceicao. But don't be happy, maybe Conceicao is hiding something inside him to the point where he agrees to face Valdez. Let's watch, and prepare some great bets for each of the heroes of his choice.

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Quote from: Obito on July 26, 2021, 09:27:25 AM

Valdez is going to have a lower odds in this one since he is the favorite fighter in this one, I feel like Robson will have a hard time adjusting to the rules since it's a bit different than that of Olympics but I do hope he will be able to acclimate and show that he can steal the crown from Valdez.

Valdez wills surely have an advantage on this match since he's more popular and well known than his opponent. I've also watched some of his matches and I could say that he really has potential. However, it might be hard for Robson to adjust to the rules but I believe that he'll do his best to make this match more exciting. It will be a good step for them to build bigger names on the ring.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 27, 2021, 05:26:03 AM

Yes, Valdez will be the outstanding favorites here in any angle, and will do everything to derail's Valdez plans of fighting others champion in this division. As a underdog, we love to bet on them, we just don't know when they will pull a surprised. Not seeing the odds yet, but I have a feeling that it could be 5.x and above odds for him. So it's riskier for us, but we can just throw in some small bets and hopefully he can get the job done.

I really think that he can surely get the job done, and Oscar Valdez is surely the favorite here, but Conceicao still have the experience to win here, but it will be a risk to bet on him in my opinion, but I really think that the Odds will surely sore with Oscar Valdez side.

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 27, 2021, 06:00:25 AM

A one sided match is a big burden for Robson to bear because no matter which happens to him, many will scorn him. What I mean by that is that if he wins against the favorite then he will be booed off by some of the supporters and if he loses he will be buried down by trash talks by the rabid and toxic supporters. Add that to the fact that he still has to prove himself.

This is going to be a double-edged sword for him, whatever the result maybe he will still be underrated by Oscar Valdez many fans this is not really new in the world of boxing, he surely needs to prove himself even further and gain many fans for himself.

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an Oscar would learn a lot from his match against Miguel. Of course, Oskar has plus points to face his opponent this time. although so far I don't know more about the advantages possessed by Robson Conceicao. We will be very interested to see his performance in September. Oh well, by the way, has anyone bet on this boxing match, even though it's not very well known to heavyweight boxing circles. Which we are used to knowing popular gambling information.

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Since both of them had experience fighting in almost different boxing classes, this opportunity would be very profitable for Oscar. However, of course, we often don't get to hear what Conceicao is fighting for, in fact, he will be very adamant about going to a much higher boxing class with the requirement to be able to conquer a boxer which he must then be an Oscar.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2021, 10:45:22 AM

I think it will be a very entertaining fight as both fighters have never been defeated. Of course Oscar Valdes has twice as much experience, but Robson Conceicao shows very decent results in his four years of fighting. I'll be rooting for Robson, although I think that bookmakers are going to have a preference for Oscar Valdes.

Valdez's experience is going to make a big difference for this fight plus I feel like Conceicao is more of a method fighter given that Olympics has a stricter rule in boxing so he might have a hard time adapting or acclimating to the standard rules in this match.

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I think it will be a very entertaining fight as both fighters have never been defeated. Of course Oscar Valdes has twice as much experience, but Robson Conceicao shows very decent results in his four years of fighting. I'll be rooting for Robson, although I think that bookmakers are going to have a preference for Oscar Valdes.

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I think this is a good start for any boxer that is a newbie to the weight in class because when you move up from your regular weight class, the punches aren't normal and you will feel the pressure as soon as it hits you the first time. There are only a few boxers who managed to take some punches when they fight those who are champions when they moved their weight and that will be not the case for others. so, Valdez, has some good initiative here hope that he will cleanly beat his opponent and fight the next big names in this category.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on July 25, 2021, 07:05:39 AM

Many are really disappointed about moving down of class of Valdez just to defend his title against Conceicao, who still needs to accomplish a thing after 4 years of being a pro boxer, But after seeing this I think that Conceicao needs to prove himself to the people, and because many are pretty much one-sided by this and all were in favor with Oscar Valdez and many are predicting that this could be a TKO win for Valdez, that is why Robson Conceicao really needs to prove himself and prove that the hype are all wrong.

A one sided match is a big burden for Robson to bear because no matter which happens to him, many will scorn him. What I mean by that is that if he wins against the favorite then he will be booed off by some of the supporters and if he loses he will be buried down by trash talks by the rabid and toxic supporters. Add that to the fact that he still has to prove himself.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on July 26, 2021, 09:18:23 AM

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Many are really disappointed about moving down of class of Valdez just to defend his title against Conceicao, who still needs to accomplish a thing after 4 years of being a pro boxer, But after seeing this I think that Conceicao needs to prove himself to the people, and because many are pretty much one-sided by this and all were in favor with Oscar Valdez and many are predicting that this could be a TKO win for Valdez, that is why Robson Conceicao really needs to prove himself and prove that the hype are all wrong.

Definitely, Top Rank has given him the perfect opportunity to showcase his talent against Valdez, so he should take this very seriously if he wanted to be the next so called cash cow or champion. But then again, Valdez has already proven himself, going up in weight and beat Miguel in a war. So he is just testing the mettle here and could win against a inexperience fighter in Robson.

This is really their opportunity of a lifetime and could change his life forever, I have seen many stories change their life with boxing, and if Conceicao Robson won against Valdez this is going to be his big break, and many more opportunities will come to him, Both fighters are undefeated but Valdez has the upper experience, in my opinion, Valdez is 30 while Conceicao is 32 without any opportunity for him instead this one time, we clearly see that Oscar Valdez is the favorite here, and if there will be odd for these two I think Valdez will be more ahead on the odds, but I think there will be risk gamblers that may take on Robson Conceicao side because they want to win much money because of the great number on the odds.

Yes, Valdez will be the outstanding favorites here in any angle, and will do everything to derail's Valdez plans of fighting others champion in this division. As a underdog, we love to bet on them, we just don't know when they will pull a surprised. Not seeing the odds yet, but I have a feeling that it could be 5.x and above odds for him. So it's riskier for us, but we can just throw in some small bets and hopefully he can get the job done.

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