Topic: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Heavyweight Battle of Britain - FURY vs JOSHUA - page 3. (Read 868 times)

Sweet. I can't see it being done in Cardiff, but Wembley or even Manchester or something would be pretty nice to see. I can't remember the last time we had a major fight in the UK, feels like forever. Plus, it'll be refreshing to see, as I assume they'd likely get more money in Saudi or possibly even the US. Although, being British fighters I do find they haven't got the same draw that an American would, weirdly enough. Especially, now that Joshua has lost quite a few of his recent fights.

I wouldn't mind seeing Usyk vs Wilder. I'm not sure who would win, but I imagine Wilder does catch him. I thought Usyk despite all the praise he gets for being agile was very hittable in that last two Joshua fights, it's just Joshua seems to have lost that brawling style that everyone loved him for.

Again, wouldn't mind a Fury vs Wilder again, since they've always been memorable. I would prefer Fury to go against Usyk, and potentially clear up the division though, so there's no excuses, and there's no one claiming x was better. I'm not even sure why Wilder gets criticised as much as he does, of course I understand with the cheating allegations, and the damn stupid suit excuse, but ultimately on every single one of those fights he showed a warrior spirit, and if wasn't for those excuses he's a boxer that I'd have the upmost respect for. He basically never gives up, despite being technically outclassed for most of his fights, and he usually, apart from the Fury fights finds a way to win.

I think they're almost certainly having it in the UK, or that's the desired plan from both promoters at least right now. It would make sense since it's an all British heavyweight super fight and it's what the fans have wanted for years. I think there'd be quite an uproar if it wasn't as there's going to be a lot of demand for tickets so they'll want to have it in the largest possible venue in the UK. I'm sure they could hold it in Saudi but it looks like they're more interested in the unification fight against Usyk. Hopefully Usyk will fight Wilder or something as that's a fight both of them have recently said they want. I think Wilder would probably beat Usyk though so it looks like we might see them against each other again. The winner or Wilder V Helenius in the mandatory anyway so Fury will probably see him again pretty soon. Personally I'd watch Fury V Wilder 10 times. I thought the third fight was one of the best boxing fights ever personally. It had everything. A real "Rocky" showdown.

Yeah, it was Wilder there, but it definitely added a little more spice towards their fight, and I'm not unhappy about it after the event, I was a bit annoyed before. However, it was a good fight, and every single one of Fury's, and Wilder's fights were memorable, which you don't often get with some redo's.

I've heard that both Cardiff, and Wembley were suggested? What's the chances of it being hosted in the UK? Usually, these big fights end up being put on in the middle east or the US. I'd love to be able to maybe get some tickets to a UK fight, with arguably the best British heavyweights in quite some time, even if they're starting to go past their prime now.

He had to act swift. It was a take it or leave it situation with a hasty deadline put in place by Fury and any niggling will have likely cancelled the deal. Hearn even said they tried to get a 60/40 in favour of AJ in the potential rematch but Fury's camp told them to either accept the deal or it's off and AJ just told them to accept all terms so they don't have any excuses as to why the fight didn't happen. It was the right thing to do as 60/40 is a generous offer and he might not ever get the chance to fight Fury again, not to mention he's got an immediate chance to win the belts back which he doesn't deserve right now.  


Couldn't have really done anything about the last time with Wilder winning the arbitration and I think that was the right decision as the pandemic put a spanner in the works. From both Hearn and Warren it looks like all the details have been formally arranged except the TV rights which is probably going to be tricky given AJ's Dazn deal but they should be able to work something out. I doubt Dazn will get US or UK rights so they'll probably just end up with other worldwide markets like they did with the last Usyk fight but maybe Dazn will want more given they've just shelled out a bucket-load of money for exclusive access to AJ.

Which, might I add has happened before between these guys. There was a lot of speculation, and finger pointing, and it seems that it wasn't actually Joshua's fault last time. You could probably put the blame on Fury if you wanted too, but ultimately that court case was out of his control. However, you would've thought they'd not make any agreements knowing that the case could go either way. Ultimately, I do think it was for publicity, and for building a story, as I suspect they would've had some sort of idea how that hearing would've played out.

Obviously, that hearing also created a storyline for the last Wilder vs Fury, because so many fans were gutted that the Fury vs Joshua fight didn't happen. So, I'm always sceptical of how boxing works, since I know they try anything, and everything for marketing. Somewhat the reason why I've stopped following it as much as I did a few years ago.

I agree, we need to see the contract sign first or at least there will be an official joint announcement that the fight is going to happen at the end of this year. Otherwise, it will be a lot of social media speculation and finger pointing if the fight is not made.

And we will see if someone if bluffing, and if either camp are really interested to make the fight. Or Joshua wanted it but he needs some tune up so there will be no fight at least this 2022. So we will see, all roads still goes to Tyson Fury in the end.

Same. If I'm not mistaken, if the fight takes place in December of this year, it will be a record (I don't even know for what period of time) in the speed of events between the announcement of the possibility of such a fight and the fight itself. Everyone is used to the fact that major fights take place after lengthy negotiations and preparations, despite the status of AJ, this is a major fight.

Joshua is not getting any younger. And it is clear that his career is also facing its eventual end. And it seems Joshua's successive losses have already taken their toll on his psychological health. It seems to me, there's really nothing to risk here for Joshua. I guess it's just right that he will prepare for this match. If this match will be postponed, he'd be fighting a lesser known fighter and he could still be defeated. And he won't be able to fight Fury anymore. Fury is probably a win-win option for Joshua right now.

I won't get excited until the contracts are signed, and even then I'll be doubtful since last time I believe we had contracts signed, until Wilder came back with that lawsuit. Obviously, Wilder isn't in the equation this time around, but I always doubt that boxing will get the fights made that the fans want to see. I know a lot of people want the Fury vs Uysk fight, but he seems to be wanting that next year, so why not give us one of the most anticipated fights of this era. Personally, I'd much rather see Joshua vs Fury despite me thinking Usyk is better. I ultimately want to see both of them, but that's even more doubtful in my mind to be honest.

It is better for Joshua to drag his heels, I think he was too quick to give fury the impression on social media that he was down for this fight. There's a lot for him at risk especially his career and he has to think really hard before giving a concrete decision. On the twist side of his dwindling career, a victory in this fight may just be a resuscitation to his record after suffering successive defeats. Fury is a big name in the fighting industry but he is not impossible to beat, Joshua just has to work harder and go harder if he truly has agreed to the fight.

Joshua seems to have taken up the offer for the fight on 3rd December 2022: Here



Even though all the signs are beginning to build up that the fight will go ahead, I am not 100% convinced. I am not sure if it is possible Fury will fight Joshua on 3rd December 2022 and then fight Usyk in February 2023 for unification fight providing he beats Joshua. As you said, until the contracts are signed there is no need to get too excited.

It's not going to be the end of his career. Nobody expects him to win just like they didn't with Usyk. Best he can do is give a great performance and get the critics back on his side. Even after Fury there's plenty of other options - Wilder, Ruiz trilogy, and other fighters on Hearn's roster like Chisora and Whyte etc and I'm sure Eddie will give him some tune up fights if this Fury fight doesn't happen. Frank Warren did re-emerge the other day to say they put a pause on negations after the Queens death so at least this fight isn't also dead. I was getting a little worried with the radio silence of all parties, but maybe they're busy negotiating now. Like I said before, I'm sure AJ and Hearn don't want to let this fight go but that Dazn deal is going to have to be worked into the contract somehow as I can't see them stepping aside.

This is not the kind of fight that would even influence a little as to how boxing's future would shape. Joshua does not anymore belong to the elite level. As a matter of fact, when he was knocked out by Ruiz, he's not anymore the boxer that everyone is looking up to. And now that he's also suffered a couple of losses from Usyk, he's effectively become just a heavyweight ex-champ.

Joshua doesn't stand a chance against Fury. He'd lose by KO or TKO.

Fury was very respectful and honest towards both Hearn and Joshua when he offered the fight to them, there was no mocking and no sarcasm. He even offered a 60/40 cut to a boxer that lost back to back fights including a rematch to retake his titles.

If it becomes official that the fight will not go ahead because Joshua and Hearn rejected it, then you can expect endless mocking by Fury towards Joshua. I am seriously leaning towards Joshua rejecting the opportunity to fight Fury because he fears losing 3 consecutive fights and his professional career ending as a result.

That is the right decision to make, yes all of them can make money out of this fight, but the legacy that Joshua made will banish if Fury beats him and I'm sure this will be an easy fight for Fury, Joshua's pride and confidence is wounded you don't go to another war with very low self-esteem if ever the fight push through, I can see Fury mocking him in every face off and conference they do before the fight, and this will further dump his confidence before the fight, but if he declines the fight there should be a good reason too, or Fury will still mock him for turning back, but he needs to back up.

It will be very easy for Joshua to turn down the fight but he will be unable to hide away if he spurns Fury. There is no way at all he should be fighting Fury after back to back defeats because he is not good enough to win. At least of he had a couple of warm up fights under his belt he would have confidence if stepping in to the ring with Fury. Joshua really does need time to recover before making any decision.

Even with his mojo back, Joshua will not be having any success against Fury or it is highly unlikely. The purse split is very generous, under normal circumstances any boxer including Joshua should take the challenge but Joshua (even though he is not in the right frame of mind) is aware that another defeat would be the end of his career.

This offer to fight has come at the wrong time for Joshua.

AJ probably doesn't really want the fight right now. Can we blame him? In an ideal world he would probably want to have one or two tune up fights to try get his mojo back before being fed to the sharks but Tyson pretty much unexpectedly dumped the fight on him out of the blue and it's a catch-22 situation where if he doesn't take it he might not ever get another chance, not to mention fans are going to hound him like crazy for turning the fight down. The one thing that might be holding AJ from signing onto the fight straight away is his Dazn deal. AJ has signed a long-term exclusive contract to Dazn but this fight is going to be a 100% Fury show so AJ likely won't be able to sign onto something without working Dazn into the deal which obviously complicates things. I'm sure AJ knows he's not going to get a better deal than 60/40 and might not get the chance to make this fight again and probably does want to take the fight but it's not as easy as just signing the short contract Fury sent over. The talk of this fight has died down pretty fast with Tyson practically going MIA on social media after posting about the fight almost constantly on Instagram stories, but that could be a good thing if they're trying to work it out behind the scenes. Hearn hasn't given any updates either so that leads me to speculate they're probably really busy trying to get it done. I'm sure we'll hear something soon because if this fight doesn't happen then both Fury and AJ will probably be fighting some bums in Nov/Dec and will need to get those shows on the road.

I'm also thinking that way, Joshua is at its lowest point with two successive losses and Fury knows that fighting Joshua at this point in time is at his advantage, the 60/40 deal is already very tempting anyway you look at it Joshua got the respect out of this deal, it should have been 70/30 based on both boxer's current status and standing, but I'm against Joshua fighting Fury at this point in time, even though the offer is very hard to turn down if he turns it down people should understand him, let's give Joshua to fully recover by fighting cherry-picked a fight and learn new and developer new skills so he can get even against Usyk or beat Fury.

Am I the only person here thinking Fury is absolutely 100% serious about wanting this fight to go ahead but Joshua is dragging his heels? For me it seems as though Fury wants a warm up fight before taking on Usyk next year in February 2023 for the unification fight and he is more than confident he will demolish Joshua.

As for Joshua, he is not jumping for joy at the chance of fighting Fury for the WBC and other titles on the line considering Joshua himself has back to back defeats including losing all his heavyweight titles and belts to Usyk. Even Bob Arum (the US promoter for Fury) said Joshua and his team are not trying hard enough to make the fight happen.

Here is what Fury said:





"AJ, I haven't heard from you at all.

Just to clarify, there has never been a December 17th date, ever. There's only ever been November 26 at Wembley, or December 3rd at Cardiff. There never has been a date on the 17th.

This is it now AJ, Eddie, don't get scared now. Agree to the fight and lets give the fans what they want.

I've give you an unbelievable deal and an unbelievable opportunity, so let's go. Go time. Show time. And AJ, if you really wanted this fight, you would say you wanted it, and you would just do it. November 26, December 3, let's give the fans what they want. No way out, take the fight."


I am beginning to doubt this fight will go ahead now. If it fails to materialise I would put it squarely down to Joshua being worried about getting in the ring with Fury because Fury has made every move possible to make sure Joshua cannot refuse the fight.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say that's why he pointed out some positive and negative statement about Joshua and Eddie agreeing to terms of Fury and the fight being held before the end of the year.


No question about it, he already destroys Wilder even without throwing the first punch in their first punch and did so in the rematch. So this is a good strategy by Fury to call him out in public. And if this fight doesn't materialized, fans will know who stall the fight.