[ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Heavyweight Battle of Britain - FURY vs JOSHUA - page 5.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 07, 2022, 05:09:30 PM

Still at works, lots of things to iron out, they are domestic rivals including their promotions, Matchroom by Hearn (AJ) and Queensberry Promotions by Frank Warren (Fury).

No doubt, both promotions know there's a lot of money riding on this, and I imagine Hearne is going to be pushing for a 50/50 split rather than taking the smaller purse. I imagine it's going to take...in typical boxing fashion a few months to sort this out, while both fighters are ageing. There will probably be issues with securing a venue, all of the normal excuses you have when it comes to these two fighters.

I also see them selling out, and going to Dubai to host it. They'll want the money, and the UK side of things can't compete with that, which will be a huge shame for British fans wanting to see these two fight in their home turfs.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 07, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

It's because that's what have been offered to him when they supposed to fight years ago. They have schedule a blockbuster fight between them, AJ 3 belts still and Fury has the WBC. But Fury has a contractual obligation to fight Wilder and then AJ lost back to back to Usyk. Now the tide has turn, AJ now is being offered 40. And as per report there will be a rematch clause.

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Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and thing to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

Still at works, lots of things to iron out, they are domestic rivals including their promotions, Matchroom by Hearn (AJ) and Queensberry Promotions by Frank Warren (Fury).

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Fury every day of the week, and twice on sunday! (Yes, I'm paraphrasing Fury there). Honestly, I think there's a massive difference between the two, and while I definitely want to see it, that's only to confirm it in reality rather than in my mind, that Fury is the best thing to come out of the UK boxing scene in a very long time. Especially heavyweight.

Joshua probably gets one last big pay out after this fight, and it'll likely be Wilder. Then I see him either retiring himself or continuing to fight the Chisora's of the division. Hearne will want to milk the cow as much as he can after these fights.

Also, it'll be nice to see these two fight in the UK for once. They've fought overseas far too many times.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 07, 2022, 02:37:22 PM

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Usyk has announced he will not be fighting again this year even though Fury and his team were desperate for the fight to go ahead therefore Fury has made an open challenge via the media to Joshua challenging him to the Battle of Britain fight and putting his belts on the line while Joshua has zero belts.

If Joshua accepts and this fight goes ahead, what will will the outcome be and will it shape the future of boxing for years to come?

I was surprised to see the call out by Tyson Fury in Instagram, but there is a timeline for Joshua to accept the fight and if Joshua accepts the fight within the timeframe we could see the potential fight between them and i was eagerly waiting for this fight long back, but the hype is lost after couple of losses against Usyk and i don't think Joshua will be mentally prepared to take on this challenge within the timeframe. Either Fury has to wait for Usyk to return or find another opponent if he is planning to fight this year.

Tyson Fury is looking for the next biggest payday that he will get if he will get out of his 'retirement'. And the best second fight is Anthony, although doesn't have the belts, but still has al of fans in their native country, so there is money to be made. And who is he calling to call? Andy Ruiz? the WBC eliminator winning? yes he has the right to challenge Fury but the money will be less compared to the "Battle of Britain" that Fury wanted before the end of this year.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 05, 2022, 11:49:41 AM

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Usyk has announced he will not be fighting again this year even though Fury and his team were desperate for the fight to go ahead therefore Fury has made an open challenge via the media to Joshua challenging him to the Battle of Britain fight and putting his belts on the line while Joshua has zero belts.

If Joshua accepts and this fight goes ahead, what will will the outcome be and will it shape the future of boxing for years to come?

I was surprised to see the call out by Tyson Fury in Instagram, but there is a timeline for Joshua to accept the fight and if Joshua accepts the fight within the timeframe we could see the potential fight between them and i was eagerly waiting for this fight long back, but the hype is lost after couple of losses against Usyk and i don't think Joshua will be mentally prepared to take on this challenge within the timeframe. Either Fury has to wait for Usyk to return or find another opponent if he is planning to fight this year.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 07, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and thing to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

Why belts if it was initially only about the WBC belt (did something change?)?

By the way, what odds will make you bet on the victory of one of the fighters? 1.1 on Fury would be a good choice? Or 20 on AJ (which we are unlikely to see since there is always a place for lucky punch in boxing)? At the moment I'm out of ideas although it's obvious that Fury is the clear favorite.

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Fury was on Talksport this morning and has said he's offered AJ three different dates at three different venues: November 12, or Wembley stadium for November 26 and December 3 in Cardiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nUu5qgjjQk

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-names-three-dates-27930154

If you take Fury at his word AJ can't get better than that.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 07, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and thing to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

Because it's the biggest fight to make outside of Usyk, and some even say it's even bigger than that. If Fury thinks he beats AJ easy then it's a no-brainer for him along with one of if not the biggest payday (which Usyk will probably eclipse if it's in Saudi). I don't think it will be an easy fight but Fury will be by far the favourite and 90% of people will expect him to win.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 07, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

Fury loves to take people for a ride, just when we all thought that he is retiring for good now here he is daring Usyk and Joshua for a fight and coming up with huge demands, he's good at mind games, he knows that Joshua is vulnerable and he wants to attack that vulnerability,

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Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet, and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and things to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

Promoters are waiting for the public's interest in this fight but who would be so interested in waiting for a fight against a fighter who just come from two losses, people will perceive this as going to be a very one-sided match because of Joshua's mental condition and motivation is at its weakest he will desperately be trying to win, he should first go on a build-up road first, a fight with Fury can wait, he can regain his winning streaks in two fights even if those fights are cherry-picked.

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Well for me i think it would be FURY because even andy ruiz can dominate him on their match so how much more when it comes fury wherein a heavy puncher and have a good technique to dominate his all opponents. How many times fury proved that his the king? So for me IMO prediction joshua will end up KO..

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 07, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and thing to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

Because Joshua understands that this fight, most likely, will not happen. It is not clear, for what this fight for Fury, maybe he just sees that Joshua is now depressed after the defeat and considers him an easy opponent. And he is afraid to box with Usyk, because Usyk is confident in himself, and Fury admits that he can lose with him. I don't know, Fury is weird, who knows what's going on in his head.

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On the surface what is clear is that Fury offered the fight to Joshua on a 60/40 split which is an excellent 40% for Joshua considering he lost back to back fights and his titles along the way and is currently not holding any championship belts. Joshua says he has accepted as long as Fury and his team talk to his team.

Keeping that aside, no contract has been signed yet and until one is I remain dubious it will go ahead. Why would Fury put his belts on the line in return for fighting someone with no belts and thing to lose? Why has Joshua not made an assault on the media shouting off he will claim to beat Fury? Something does not add up.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on September 07, 2022, 07:33:03 AM

Hearn has said he's accepted the offer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaL7pwVjjAA

It's very long but the bottom line is Joshua is the boss and he'll take the challenge, it may be a very risky fight but can Joshua say no to this kind of opportunity because of pride, it's a make or break for him, and if he is disappointed losing against Usyk I wonder what will be his mental health if ever he loses against Fury but AJ hopefully knows what's he's doing, I will not advise him to take the fight, and somebody close to him should advise him strongly Hearns is a promoter who just wants to make money, he can ruin his investment on Joshua

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But he's still rightfully sceptical that this isn't just some mind games or a way to grab more money for a Usyk fight. Looks like Frank Warren has the Millennium stadium reserved already so they could use that but he probably already had that for a Fury to fight some bum and that will likely still happen if the fight falls through. Until the contracts get signed then I wouldn't get too exited because it's going to be a squeeze to get a fight of this magnitude sorted in time. Either way, I'm sure we'll find out soon because even if they don't fight each other they'll be fighting someone else and will have to start promoting those matches.

There's been so much hype in the past between Fury and Joshua and this could be one of that hype but it did not eventually push, I would also not get excited that this fight will eventually happen until there is a contract signed, Joshua's situation is very fragile he needs to gather his spirit and he can do that by fighting fighters that are easy to beat then ask for bigger fights, that were the initial plan of Hearns for Joshua, not the right time to change that.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 05, 2022, 06:33:11 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on September 05, 2022, 11:49:41 AM

Fury has made an open challenge via the media to Joshua challenging him to the Battle of Britain fight and putting his belts on the line while Joshua has zero belts.

Joshua reacted saying fury was just clout chasing on social media and should go through the proper channel.

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If Joshua accepts and this fight goes ahead, what will will the outcome be and will it shape the future of boxing for years to come?

If I were Joshua, I would avoid fighting for the time being since I just came out of two successive defeats from Usyk, and especially not be in a hurry to fight against Fury who is at the moment more better than him in boxing. If AJ goes ahead to accept the fight as he also mentioned that he will be ready to fight in December, another defeat may just further send his career to bed.

If only AJ could hear this advice and heed to not fight Fury, I will call him wise. It is going to be bad if he, having lost his previous fight and the one before that, has to loose again. Fury should pick on someone else, unless he is just looking for media attention.

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Hearn has said he's accepted the offer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaL7pwVjjAA

But he's still rightfully sceptical that this isn't just some mind games or a way to grab more money for a Usyk fight. Looks like Frank Warren has the Millennium stadium reserved already so they could use that but he probably already had that for a Fury to fight some bum and that will likely still happen if the fight falls through. Until the contracts get signed then I wouldn't get too exited because it's going to be a squeeze to get a fight of this magnitude sorted in time. Either way, I'm sure we'll find out soon because even if they don't fight each other they'll be fighting someone else and will have to start promoting those matches.

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I am sure if this match happens then Tyson Fury will win it. Just check his past records he has defeated some of the known names. What I am surprised about is that why him? I was expecting a fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk. I am not sure what might be the reason for him to challenge someone who is weaker than him. Is it money or does he wants to create a buzz?

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Seeing that I'm the first one to vote for AJ, hehe. Fury is the favorite, but if the odds of AJ winning are more than 10, then I will bet on him. I am an optimist and do not want to believe that this will be just a dull fight where the favorite will defeat a boxer who has already lost 3 fights out of four before this meeting. There must be some intrigue. And in general, Fury's victory will not be beneficial to anyone - AJ will have to finish with boxing (three defeats in a row) and Fury will get a victory over the one whom Usyk defeated twice, this is hardly a valuable achievement.

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Quote from: Questat on September 06, 2022, 07:33:31 AM

If Fury vs Usyk will not happen, then I guess this is a better replacement, they were supposed to fight before but Joshua lose to Usyk that's why it didn't happen. I still like this one though, it's like a Fury vs Wilder fight but I'm sure Fury will have no problem knocking out Joshua knowing how soft he is compared to Wilder.

Maybe Fury is already looking at it as Usyk might not be available at the end of the year, which Fury wanted to fight. So he calls Joshua for a fight.

And if Fury wins, (most likely by the looks of the vote and AJ's mental state and Fury's psyche war), then he can go after Usyk next year for all the belts and the title of the best HW of this generations.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 06, 2022, 07:33:40 AM

Currently the poll has 8 votes and they are all in favour of Fury to defeat Joshua if the fight goes ahead therefore you are not alone Grin

Did you expected different poll results ? Cheesy

I dont know who will vote for Joshua. Only kids or so called "couch experts", that are inspired by record numbers (which are not great right now) and YouTube highlights ? What we know about current Joshua ? 2-3 in last five fights. Wins over about to retire Pulev and a revanche against snickers boy? Mental instability. Fury would break and eat Joshua on first press conference with his trash talk and then we will see an interpretation of "you ~~are not strong~~ dont look athletic, how did you beat me?"

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2022, 12:42:40 PM

Fury always seems to find a way to win. His unique size/length matched with his unnatural ability to react within a split second makes him a dangerous opponent. I always think he’s going to lose but he never seems to. I assume this fight will be more of the same for him.

That is true about Fury. Somehow, he finds a way to win even if it goes to as points decision (with exception of the dubious draw against Wilder in their first fight).

The way he outmuscled Wilder, the way he sued his weight to lean on him and tire him out is another tool he has at his disposal. If it goes ahead I cannot see Joshua winning.

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I voted for Tyson Fury to win, maybe he will score a knock out over Joshua here. Seems Anthony is very desperate right now so I wouldn't be surprised that after Fury smashes him and floored him worst that he did to Wilder, AJ might call it quits. Hard to see how can he overcome the technical skills of Tyson. He had problems with Usyk, so this could be worst for him, I reckon.

Currently the poll has 8 votes and they are all in favour of Fury to defeat Joshua if the fight goes ahead therefore you are not alone Grin

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If Fury vs Usyk will not happen, then I guess this is a better replacement, they were supposed to fight before but Joshua lose to Usyk that's why it didn't happen. I still like this one though, it's like a Fury vs Wilder fight but I'm sure Fury will have no problem knocking out Joshua knowing how soft he is compared to Wilder.

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