Topic: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Heavyweight Battle of Britain - FURY vs JOSHUA - page 4. (Read 868 times)

Joshua has been preparing to fight Usyk for 11 months, and he will be ready for the fight with Fury in just 3? It's more like trying to grab more money before ending a career. Who will be interested in him after the defeat from Fury and the statistics of the last 5 fights, of which 4 were losses? However, maybe this is the best solution for him, it is difficult to judge from the outside, but in my opinion this is a desperate decision.

A 6 foot 9 Tyson fury has a record of 32-0-1 fighting against Anthony Joshua has a record of 24-3   which is we can say that is a good matchup as well because as we can see their records even though Anthony Joshua has lesser wins than Tyson furry but out of 24, 22 of it via knockout which explain to us that he is strong enough to fight the undefeated fighter in their division Tyson furry. For sure this matchup ends with knockout.

Bob knows the boxing business and boxers' behavior after the wins and the losses because he has seen it all, he's one of the oldest promoters in boxing and all are pointing for Joshua to get a tune fight first or a build-up fight first, the hardest question is what will become of Joshua's career if he losses again.

Fury is good at mind games he knows that Joshua is at his lowest, and his self-esteem is destroyed by these two losses, how can he motivate himself that he has what it takes to beat Fury when his best is not good enough against Usyk.

And the thought of what's next if he losses again, is Hearns really after Joshua getting back in boxing or he wants to end Joshua's career.

He's just signed a long-term deal with Dazn so he'll probably just fight bums or other fighters on Eddie's roster to please Dazn. The Dazn deal might be one of those things that's holding this fight back because I'm sure they're going to want their piece of the pie but with this being under Bricktop's production it's going to be their way or the highway for most of it and AJ/Hearn will have little say in things.


Hearn and AJ have already agreed to the 60/40 which is already very generous on Fury's part (the deal even included a 50/50 split if a rematch happened so AJ isn't going to get better than that). Fury already has some venues reserved for the fight as well, which one of them was probably just for whatever bum he was going to fight before this happened, and let's be honest he's probably still going to fight some bum in Dec if AJ doesn't sign off on this. If this fight doesn't get made this year it probably never will happen or won't be until 2024 as next year will probably be taken up with Usyk and then likely a rematch later in the year. AJ also looks to be fighting in Dec according to Hearn but that will probably just be someone like Chisora.

If Joshua is your favourite boxing, then now is when you need to support him the most. Since, he's kind of losing the plot a little bit. Just look at his rather emotional speech at the end of the Usyk fight. The thing is, Joshua has been protected from the media, and that's why I've called him the golden boy. They've tried to portray him as a certain type of personality, and it seems outside of boxing he just isn't the same personality. He'll tell you himself if given the chance he grew up in a rough neighbourhood, and he isn't this clean cut guy. He was going to prison before he picked up a boxing career. I imagine Eddie saw that, and thought he could create a boxer on redemption, and therefore that's why he has been shielded to some extent, and sort of convinced to put on this persona.

We've seen that his personality differs out in the public, and when he doesn't get his own way. He was dismissive of Ruiz last time out, and he was dismissive to Usyk both times. This time he kind of put amends to it, but that's probably from either Eddie or one of his team reminding him to be graceful in defeat.

Joshua needs support either from his fans or from his team to pick himself up, otherwise his career does look pretty bleak, and I do think he's better than the majority of the division, and needs to get back to his old fighting style, and forget this technical boxing act.

^^ This is the same thoughts as Bob Arum, that's why he said that Eddie Hearn is bluffing. Because Arum after so many years in boxing, knows when a fighter needs a tune up fight after getting a big L, which Joshua had and it's back to back loses. And so he is negative about the fight happening this year, although he is on the side of Fury and probably Fury will beat Joshua, he might be sharing what others think that this is a very dangerous path for Joshua if he wanted to get back again from the humiliating lost from Usyk.

As for the fans, well if they see that their favorite boxers is losing, it's understandable that they too want to distant themselves from Joshua.

The thing is, the fans have already started to turn against Joshua. I actually referred him to the golden boy back when he was winning. It was obvious he was going to get found out, and there was already questions on his desire, and chin. I do believe he has desire though, it's just after that Ruiz fight that took something out of him. He avoids the brawling which he was good at, and now looks to box. I'm sorry he isn't a technical boxer, he's better when he looks to knock the opponent out. Just look at him, he looks like he's been carved out of marbel.

He's now lost a lot of the fans, which is kind of ironic. Fans can be very fickle, and it's not like he's a terrible boxer, he's top four easily in his division. Anyway, I genuinely believe he doesn't just need one tune up fight, he needs several, and a big opponent before Fury. It's risky, but from a point of view of the promoters Wilder probably makes more sense. He has a chance somewhat there. If he can avoid that right hand, which I doubt he can, but if he can he probably would be able to outbox Wilder. Since Wilder isn't exactly a great boxer either.

Fury demolishes him, and his career probably derails even further. Like I said, he probably goes back to fighting, and winning against the Chisora's, and that would be a shame since when he was using his power he was exciting, and he needs to find that confidence against if he is to have any chance of success against Fury.

He almost certainly isn't going to outbox Fury.

So what does a "120kg guy pushes you dont by bending your back, loading your quadriceps and calfs and make you more exhausted and slowed" move called then ? Clever strategy ? Do few squads with a 120kg bar, then do some shadow boxing and repeat squads. Then tell me how you feel, if you wont blackout after few sessions. That is what I call a dirty boxing by Fury, leaning. He does this in every fight.

I would do the same if I am his manager/promoter.  Rushing a fight against Fury will possibly make him look bad if he lost once again.  I know there is a money to be made in the fight but it would be the career of the fighter a priority if the manager wanted to milk more money on Joshua. 

Look at what Usyk did, he is at the top of his career and he literally avoided Fury in his fight.  Sometimes, it is not wrong to chose an easier opponent if a boxer wanted to rebuild the hype around him.


I don't think it is dirty boxing when you are taking advantage of your weight and height during the fight as long as it is not a foul move, then I see them ok.  It is like a clever strategy to outwit and defeat his opponent.

Anthony Joshua only threw 5 punches in some rounds when he fought Usyk. Joshua's output volume is so remarkably low. An issue which Deontay Wilder also appears to struggle with.

Wilder looked tired to me in round 2 of the trilogy meeting with Tyson Fury. I think Anthony Joshua would be the same were he to fight Tyson Fury. Except Joshua lacks the big knockout power that Deontay Wilder has which would result him him having virtually no chance versus Fury.

Many top heavyweights in boxing appear to not be capable of getting themselves in shape to throw a respectable amount of punch volume before being exhausted. Its a strange thing which makes me believe we may be witnessing the end of boxing as a legitimate sport.

True, but it seems that Fury wanted to push it before the end of the year and if that fight is not going to be made, maybe the hype won't be this big. Or maybe the will go on a fight a different fighter, Joshua some B level fighter, a boxer that he can beat. And then Fury vs Usyk or Andy Ruiz.


It had to happen in UK, one of the biggest sporting event at the end of the year for them. The fans should clamor and insist to Hearn and Warren to have this fight in British soil.

What do you mean, he had to change his trainer just in his rematch against Usyk, to show his skills in the ring but it was not enough as obviously he has lost that fight already.

Nevertheless, he said he wanted to still fight and there you go, Tyson Fury offered him a all British match. There are dates and venue, purse split, we just have to see the sign contract. And base on the votes, Fury will be the favorite, probably Joshua will be 3:1 underdog in the opening odds.

Joshua should really grab this fight as an opportunity to show more of his skills in the ring. Fury has always been ready and prepared for whoever his opponents would be so we can't question the number of supporters who trust his strength in the ring. He has been showing his eagerness and dedication to making a good name in the industry.

It would be strange if the results were different. This calls into question the expediency of the fight. I would like to know what the odds of the bookmakers will be for this fight, it seems that due to the current situation we will really see something extremely one-sided. Like 1.05 on Fury and 18 on AJ. You will either have to bet on an outsider or guess in which round a knockout will occur.

Based on this article it's almost a done deal and they are just ironing out the tiny bits of information they all agreed on many things.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/07/anthony-joshua-accepts-tyson-furys-60-40-fight-offer-on-one-condition

They are very transparent in their talks, they should be because this is the fight that should have happened years ago but it's under different circumstances now, made possible by Fury's gesture of giving him a chance to redeem himself or to end his career  

We have 17 votes in the poll and just 1 is in favour of Joshua to win. 16 of the 17 votes are in favour of Fury to win the fight if it goes ahead.

Considering the fact Fury has offered so many options to Joshua in order to accommodate the fight, there should be no excuses on part of Joshua to avoid getting in the ring to face Fury. I hope we something written in a contract soon so both fighters can concentrate on the fight itself.

If I were from AJ team, I would suggest him to fight someone he would definitely win (I guess that is called a cherry pick fight; correct me if I am wrong). If AJ looses, and it looks like he will definitely gonna lose to Fury, that might end his career.

And it is going to be a perfect fight for Fury to end his career undefeated. With his dirty boxing (laying on opponents) and lots of AJ muscles, AJ will be fighting oxygen, not Fury in late rounds. Imho, AJ should avoid this fight, even for a big cheque if he wants to continue boxing career. He has already proved that he is far from being the best, now it is stupid to prove that against more dangerous opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, in the schedule first fight of Fury and Joshua, the side of Anthony pushes for a 60:40 and then Fury camp come back with the 50:50 split. Perhaps Hearn will used it against Fury this time and see how they will react with that kind of split.

Of course, it will be a shame if the fight is not going to happen in the British soil. But the money is going to flow if ever this is going to be in Saudi again. It seems that Hearn has build already a good rapport with someone rich and influential in Saudi that he can just go there and ask for the fight to be held with this amount of money.

I take any talk online as gospel, and with a huge pinch of salt. So, I doubt they'll avoid each other personally it'll be their promotions if anyone. They'll want to setup a cash cow, but the only problem with mega fights is they derail one of the fighters careers, unless you can make a massive rematch or trilogy out of it. However, I don't think the two fighters are close enough in terms of ability that it'll be close, and therefore after the first fight a lot of interest will be lost.

Usyk has only recently really got his career rolling in the Heavyweight division so his promotion will want to keep milking that cow, and they'll avoid any risky fights in my opinion. Fury obviously is at the tail end of his career, and probably just wants to mop up the rest of the division, and be the undisputed best fighter of his era.

It is quite surprising that Usyk had avoided fury, but this Fury - Joshua fight is indeed very interesting.  This had been long overdue and I hope both the fighter will come to terms and schedule their fight.  Fury might have an advantage in this fight but I am hoping that Joshua win's the fight. 


It is reasonable because AJ poses as a challenger in the possible upcoming fight.  Besides, it is an offer of opportunity for  AJ to have a title fight asap after he losses to Usyk.



Possibly because Fury thinks that he has an advantage over AJ and easy money for him if ever AJ accepted the fight. 


It is simple, Joshua doesn't want to look like a clown on social media.  Remember he lost back to back to Usyk, so claiming he will beat Fury will possibly become a laughing stock on social media until proven.