Topic: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 - page 2. (Read 1768 times)

Or I guess we have the answers now. There will be unifying the other 2 belts are Shakur chooses to default his WBC/WBO belt because of the very reason that he can't make the weight no more at 130 lbs.

So when he jump to 135 lbs, it might be a tune up fight first, maybe rank 5-10 in the radar for him in this new division and see if he can cope with the power of a natural lightweight boxer. Shakur can't simply fight what he wanted, and that is Davis. He will have to go to a slow process before fighting Tank.

Yes, no more unification fight for him because his body can't make 130 lbs without problems. So instead of defending his belt and make the weight, he decided to relinquished his 2 titles in this fight. Not sure if Robso though feels disrespected, or maybe there is a clause in this fight about getting over the limit and that the other party will pay. Anyhow, the fight is just 2 days away so we will see Shakur last fight at 130 lbs and then move up next for a more lucrative division.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

He feel he may be weak during the fight if he forced himself to drain that excess baggage which for me is unprofessional on his side. His team should have known this even before the weigh in and do the necessary actions as to not compromise the championship belts. This only shows the lack of discipline on training this boxer had (just my thought), have seen Teofimo Lopez struggle or have weight problem but manage to made the scales against Kambosos.

On the brighter side, having Shakur on the lightweight division will add more excitement on this already entertaining division but i think he will start from scratch, i mean he will have to be a mandatory challenger for a title fight, championship fight will not be given to him i think. 

He doesn't care about those two belts anymore, if he did then he would try to make a second attempt because he will be given that time in like two hours to make 130 lbs.

Definitely Stevenson is looking to go up against the big boys at 135 lbs. Not sure if he can immediately jump to challenge Davis because they are in a different promotions.

And it will be more of a mental thing for Shakur, he already lost his belt so maybe there is pressure for him to at least give his fans a good showing.

And it looks like Shakur is weight drain in this weigh-in? Doesn't the smile like Robson did. And to think that Robson is the taller, So we will see how Shakur will take this fight, maybe he knows that he will have a hard time shredding that extra 1.6 pounds so that he didn't bother to lose it.

And if Robson will upset him, definitely, he will have the belt. But if he losses, the belt is vacated so there could be another WBC and WBO title eliminator. And I think it will be Robson again vs Valdez.

Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Bookies understand how they can attract bettors. They are there to earn and not to lose money. They've got a system that gives the basis why they place odds in different sports events. In terms of this upcoming fight, they see the advantages of how both fighters fought from their previous fights and they base the possibilities with the performances of each fighter.

Though there's no guarantee and in this sport upset is always possible to happen, so picking your fighters defends from how you see the potential or edge not just because it was bookies favorite.

Sports bookies have their research done on every boxer, they also consider the recent fight of the boxer and the caliber of their opponents.  Aside from that, I think they have a hold of the information that is not visible to ordinary people such as punching strength, present condition, etc.  So when they put odds on the match they have these factors and variables and end up with the odds that is favorable to the person who has more chance of winning.  Not saying, they also have possible insiders that gather more information on each boxer.

It is no doubt that Robson will be the underdog here since comparing how the two perform against Oscar Valdez (though it doesn't actually do the math on who is better of the two) Stevenson has his easy way to victory while Conceicao has a difficult time and a "controversial" loss.

That is a fact! Sports bookies are there to make some money out of the bettors while trying to confuse them, they are not there to make some losses. Anyway, I agree that it is not that surprising if Shakur will win, although his chances are not guaranteed as of now because there is always some chances of upset in any fight but that said chances are literally low and I have no doubt as well that he will.

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

In short, may it statistics/paper or chances, Shakur Stevenson has the higher hand on this fight compared to Robson even if we say that he's somehow a decent boxer. We cannot possibly deny that Shakur might have this fight like he's not struggling at all, we may wrong but sticking to chances, there's a big percentage that we are correct.

Well, the statistics may favor Shakur much more than Robson, but we all know very well that both boxers, at least for me, are at the same level, and this fight will bear very good fruit, because the bettors are active in everything, both in statistics As for the speculations of forums, of what they see on TV and on social networks, it is not because I go by the numbers or that I am a fan of the statistics, but I think that Shakur is the one who has the best chance of winning in this case, I don't know, I may be wrong, Robson's skills are very good too, it is difficult to establish which boxer has an advantage over the other.


It is like that, as you say, of course this is something that we speculate, but despite the fact that Shakur has all the advantage, both in probabilities, statistics, it seems that Valdez does not have much to offer, however I think that Valdez can surprise us, every boxer who is somewhat influential knows that what is being handled is a lot of money, if he manages to turn all those speculations around, we could talk about a whole betting romp, because only those who win are the most believers in Valdez, that would be something interesting, and I think that the world of boxing also deserves some kind of surprises like that.

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What is the fight card for Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao?




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Might be the case but people already know that almost is still not enough and fact is Valdez still won the fight, while Shakur defeated Valdez dominantly just like how the scorecard says. Don't know what Robson thinks that he can give to Shakur this time but the latter is straight as an arrow, so I definitely bet that he won't give Robson a chance to stop him.

Well see it soon if Shakur is indeed struggling to fit himself in 130 pounds because I think that is just a plain rumor. Also, if Shakur decides to go straight to Tank Davis on his debut in lightweight, chances are high that Tank will just embarrass Shakur.

Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson.

Yes, 135 is what would be ideal, for me Shalkur is training with everything because he has a lot of motivation and there is nothing better than coming to a fight comfortable but not confident and with great motivation, what you say is true, the grandfather is coming of the old school and despite the fact that there are currently many methods to train and have the fastest and best results, the grandfather can teach him the traditional work with which he was trained for this type of fight, the truth is that I think that type of training it is superior to any other, without underestimating the current methods, they are also family and that gives it a different tint, nothing will be kept for your grandson to learn.

There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot.

Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight.


Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt.

And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.