[Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 - page 9.

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Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 08:11:52 AM

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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez?

What are your thoughts about that?

Maybe, because Robson "almost" beat Valdez in their fight. But it doesn't matter to Shakur though. In his mind, he can beat anyone at this division and could be looking for a unification fight iwith the other champions in the future. So as long as he can get the job done, then Valdez or Herring or even Conceicao can't win against the best version of Shakur right now. And it will be an intriguing that after unifying all the belts in 130 lbs, moving up in weight and then fight the likes of Tank Davis.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on July 28, 2022, 07:31:29 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 28, 2022, 12:06:08 AM

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez?

What are your thoughts about that?

A good boxer like Shakur doesn't underestimate their opponents, Herring and Valdez are two great fighters that he has beaten and gotten the belt. But Conceicao is an Olympian and so is Shakur, but yes, style makes fights, so I will give credit Conceicao is he can last the full 12 rounds without getting knock down or losing by knock out.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 28, 2022, 12:06:08 AM

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 22, 2022, 07:58:18 PM

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

I think you can put your vote on the outright victory instead of the KO/TKO options.

I would guess the bookies might favor the under 7.5 rounds as opposed to the over. However, I think that they will listed the over/under at 10.5.

Yes, the records of both shows that this might go to the distance, but we will see, I would love to see the odds on Shakur winning by KO/TKO, if that is attractive enough, I might go for it.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 28, 2022, 12:06:08 AM

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 24, 2022, 03:51:38 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on July 22, 2022, 07:58:18 PM

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

What is the odds for over 7.5? I haven't check sports bookies yet.

But if we look at Stevenson's record some of them are UD, so I reckon this might be the case against Robson, as Conceicao could be a tough cookie to crack. I mean he is not American obviously, so his style might be very different on other fighters that Shakur has face in his last 3-4 fights. So if the over 7.5 has a good odds then why not?

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 24, 2022, 05:16:34 AM

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 24, 2022, 03:51:38 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on July 22, 2022, 07:58:18 PM

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.

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Quote from: Questat on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 AM

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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show.

Consider this the easiest fight match to make money as long as you bet a huge amount also seeing what the odds is as of now. It will also be a huge loss if an upset happens.

That will really be a huge upset if Robson somewhat manage to win, in any form against the best 130 lbs fighter we have. No doubt that Robson have the tools, but at the same time, Shakur is about to hit the peak of his boxing career so it will be very difficult to see a boxer with this caliber at his prime being upset. So for me, I'm not seeing it happening, and so again, the wise bet could be Shakur.

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Quote from: Questat on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 26, 2022, 10:39:31 PM

So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Let me quote it for you,

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“I think that’s where [Oscar] Valdez made a mistake. He didn’t put the pressure on [Conceicao] and didn’t try to start beating him up until rounds six, seven. I think that’s where he went wrong. With me, from round two and three, you’ll see a lot of me trying to beat him up. I wanna get him out of there.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-im-going-there-beat-up-conceicao-wanna-get-him-out-there--167887

So that's what he said and that's why I said that I'm expecting Shakur to really jump on the gun. He can still be technical but at the same time be the aggressor and not giving Robson any space from the early rounds. He actually score a knock down against Valdez in round 6 if you are not aware of. And as you have said, he dominated Valdez with his technical abilities but at the same time deliver a knock down punch.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 27, 2022, 10:45:00 AM

Quote from: Questat on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 26, 2022, 10:39:31 PM

So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson.
and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round.

That is what you call ring IQ, and I agree, against Herring it was a different strategy and so with the Oscar Valdez win.

It's not hard to see Stevnson winning by KO and the fight not going to distance. We might see him as being a very cerebral fighter, but he also possesses a KO power at this division. It could be a body shot to the liver and Robson can't beat the count.

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Quote from: Questat on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 26, 2022, 10:39:31 PM

So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson.
and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round.

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Quote from: Questat on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 26, 2022, 10:39:31 PM

So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show.

Consider this the easiest fight match to make money as long as you bet a huge amount also seeing what the odds is as of now. It will also be a huge loss if an upset happens.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 26, 2022, 10:39:31 PM

So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.

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He is obviously well love in Newark as what the Mayor says, he really carry them in his jersey and boxing trunks and represents the City and they are just giving it back to him.

And then he assured his fans that he is going to beat him Conceicao, and he will be technical (just like in the Valdez fight). So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.

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Just a quick update on this fight:

Here is the kick off press conference, however, Robson is not yet in the US, nevertheless you can see the support Newark has given to Shakur though, the mayor is there to give support to him.

There's also a lot of prospects in the undercard, so overall I will say that Top Rank has put a good match in this fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L14l1zY5tU

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 24, 2022, 12:48:43 AM

Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 22, 2022, 07:58:18 PM

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez.

Edit: I also added a poll.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 22, 2022, 07:58:18 PM

Stevenson - 1.05
Conceicao - 9.60

The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe.

Shakur Stevenson should challenge the other championship holders in his weight class for a move on unifying all the championships similar to Naoya Inoue.

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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.

Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.

I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.

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It was really a masterful and class shown by Shakur in the Valdez fight. In that fight, he really moves like Floyd Mayweather (just finished watching the highlights just now). There were rounds that Valdez is the aggressor and pushing the fight, even pinning him in the ropes. But Shakur is too intelligent to be trap and that jab is really superb. And then he combine it with body shots and then going to the head. I doubt know how Robson Conceicao will counter that.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 23, 2022, 10:53:45 AM

Shakur just keeps getting better he is good in defense and offense although he lacks in power, I agree that he should be in the top list of pounds for pound Robson Conceicao is a good fighter but no way he can beat Shakur, it's only a matter of time before he rules the Super featherweight/Junior lightweight (130 lb/59 kg) because all the champions in other organizations like Gutiérrez and Cordina can't match his skill, so I bet Shakur Stevenson to win the bout via knock out.

Not sure if he lacks power, if I'm not mistaken, he knock down or knock out his opponents with body shot. And I would say that he has one of the most powerful body shots in the lower division. But this fight is again another best test for him, we've seen how his defense is, so I'm expecting of him to somewhat show his prowess just like what he did on taking apart Oscar Valdez. Dela Hoya even twitter that he is a combination of Floyd and Canelo.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 23, 2022, 06:36:45 PM

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It was reported that Stevenson's next opponent will be Robson Conceicao and the fight will be held at Shakur's home town of Newark, N.J.

This would be a battle of former Olympic medalists, silver for Shakur while gold for Robson if I'm not mistaken.

Just wonder why this fight is going to be held in New Jersey and not in Las Vegas where gamblers could see live the unified champion, Shakur Stevenson. Maybe Bob Arum has something to do with this as I read an article after Shakur won against Valdez that Arum is not too fond of Shakur being a defensive fighter and can't draw a massive crowd which I believe might be the reason why this fight is to be held in Shakur's hometown.

Perhaps the sticking point is that Shakur will show his talent on his hometown? But I somewhat agree with Bob's observation, Shakur style as we all known is very frown by casual fans except for those hardcore and his fans. So maybe him making the fight in Shakur hometown will draw some fans into the gate and then later Bob Arum can spin it around down the line saying Shakur is the A-side because he bring fans to buy tickets for his fight. Clever move and a win-win for Shakur image and Top Rank.

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