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Topic: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 - page 7. (Read 1768 times)

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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

And yet we are still waiting for Crawford vs Spence?

But I do agree, Floyd did it, becoming his own manager and I think he set the bar very high when he get out of Bob Arum's contract. And that's where he become Money Mayweather and now fighters are trying to duplicate that blueprint. And so far only Canelo is successful I would say. Not sure if Crawford can do that, he is no longer young, I mean he need to act fast to be able to make millions by his own before he retire.

Yup, there's still no update about that fight yet and I don't even know why takes them so long to announce it if it can happen this year.

There's a lot of boxers who tried to copy Floyd's book as Mayweather is truly clever enough to get the fight he wants and prolong some fights with hypes especially if he's at the disadvantage side. As for Crawford, Bob Arum turned him blind that time and maybe the latter promised Crawford some promising fights for his legacay because he re-signed another contract at that time.
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Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.
Honestly there's no champion on super featherweight can kill Shakur career, I believe Shakur will win the entire fight and become undisputed champion. The reason why Shakur want to fight him is because many people think Robson win against Oscar Valdez, since Shakur already won against Oscar Valdez, then the next is proving if he's better than the these two boxers.
Yes, that is the selling point in this fight, Robson beat Valdez in their fight, although the judges favor Valdez. So the next big fight for him is to go against one of the champion which is Shakur and it's good that Stevenson accepted this fight without any hesitation.

The next thing we will see Shakur fight against the champion on super featherweight division. If he will move up to lightweight division, then he will face many good boxers and could threat his career.
That is the best thing to do with his career, before moving up in weight and call Davis, why not clean up his division first, unify all the belts and then go chase 135 lbs champion.
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Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.
Honestly there's no champion on super featherweight can kill Shakur career, I believe Shakur will win the entire fight and become undisputed champion. The reason why Shakur want to fight him is because many people think Robson win against Oscar Valdez, since Shakur already won against Oscar Valdez, then the next is proving if he's better than the these two boxers.

The next thing we will see Shakur fight against the champion on super featherweight division. If he will move up to lightweight division, then he will face many good boxers and could threat his career.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

And yet we are still waiting for Crawford vs Spence?

But I do agree, Floyd did it, becoming his own manager and I think he set the bar very high when he get out of Bob Arum's contract. And that's where he become Money Mayweather and now fighters are trying to duplicate that blueprint. And so far only Canelo is successful I would say. Not sure if Crawford can do that, he is no longer young, I mean he need to act fast to be able to make millions by his own before he retire.
legendary
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

As fans, all we can do is try to make some hype so that our much anticipated fights will happen in the future because that's one factor they will look into as they will try to see if that hyped fight will indeed make millions of dollars if they decide to make it happen.
Putting pressure can bring those promoters to a dead end, though they are good at making excuses to attract more fans

to call for the fight that they are aiming to happen, milking cows are always in the last line to make sure that
they will get every money that they can get from the hype of their fighters.

This sport is really a money making venue for everyone. As long as you know how to play the game, money will
flow to your wallet..
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.

Robson also needs the money, they all need the money otherwise this fight will not materialize. Bob has already rebranded himself for the worse and if you are a hot fighter like Shakur he will give him more fight to fast forward the flow of cash. Make sure as well Shakur will be on the safe side, not killing the cow itself by matching him to someone they know can't beat him.

You can only wish there is an upset because youre too indisposed to bank for Shakur due to the odds.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

These are promoters' cash cows and they don't want to kill their cash cow so they cherry-picked opponents for their favorite champion, Crawford made the right decision getting out of Bob Arum he cannot give him legacy fights like the one he is working for against his arch-rival Spence, boxers like Canelo who is a free agent is getting the good fights that he wants because he gets rid of these kinds of promoters.
legendary
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

That is so true, boxing has grown so much in the last 40 years because of the promoters but they bring their tricks as well and this sports becomes a business. The super fight that we all wanting to see might take some time to happen, and worst when either one of them are already in the decline of their career. And then will fight for the money. It's much better if they will fight during their primes, so there will be no discussion as who is the best among them. But promoters will hold this back, create more hype first and when they are no longer at their best, set up the fight. And the fans are going to still show and buy tickets whether live gates and PPV, win-win for the network and promotional company and of course the boxer themselves.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.

I feel you mate but we can't do anything about it because that's the reality of their industry and boxing is really an entertainment business after all. Bob Arum and other promoters may be irritating in our eyes because of their styles but they are just trying to make and get every penny they could take because not every time there will be a great boxer in their possession.

As fans, all we can do is try to make some hype so that our much anticipated fights will happen in the future because that's one factor they will look into as they will try to see if that hyped fight will indeed make millions of dollars if they decide to make it happen.
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^^ Yes, this is also my point, boxing politics, it just frustrate us boxing fans that this managers and promoters are not giving us the fight that we wanted to see, because after all boxing is business and these people wanted more money, like Bob Arum's style of having fights in-house so that all money will be his and his boxers. So this is going to huge if the fight are going to be made in the future, specially if both of them remain unbeaten and still both champions.
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.

The only reason why I think that Shakur wanted to test his skills against Tank is that the amount of money that he could earn here.

So maybe he could bypass the 2 remaining belts, as someone said, it's not that important, this boxers will go and maximize every chance they can get to earn millions because their health is always on the line when they fight. Just the question on whether Top Rank can go and talk to Davis team, Floyd or Leonard Ellerbe.

For sure he will earn more millions of dollars if he will take on Gervonta Davis compared to the remaining title holders in super featherweight division combined but that is also if Bob Arum can make that fight happen before or after Ryan Garcia take on Davis because Shakur will be at the back of a long queue as Davis is one of the most sought after boxer in their neighboring division.
legendary
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^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.

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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.

The only reason why I think that Shakur wanted to test his skills against Tank is that the amount of money that he could earn here.

So maybe he could bypass the 2 remaining belts, as someone said, it's not that important, this boxers will go and maximize every chance they can get to earn millions because their health is always on the line when they fight. Just the question on whether Top Rank can go and talk to Davis team, Floyd or Leonard Ellerbe.
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

Yes, that will be Ryan Garcia who will have the chance to fight Tank Davis because they both belong in the same division and both of them are now getting interested to have a fight. Unlike Shakur who needed to climb another weight class if he decides to fight Tank Davis, frankly, he's a bit young and early to climb another division just for Tank. He should claim more belts in his own division first.
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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO

I haven't fully watched that Valdez-Conceicao controversial fight but I heard a lot say it should've gone to Conceicao.

Both Conceicao and the champion got good skills but Shakur is getting better each day. And Shakur's fighting in his hometown with his promoter staging the event so this is everything wrong for Conceicao. My only concern is Shakur's lack of power. So I really doubt a second-round knockout happens. It is possible Shakur might be a little aggressive here as Conceicao is not a heavy puncher either so knockout may happen but in the late rounds. 

Shakur really has an advantage in this match. He's aggressive and based on his previous fights, he has fast hands and strong defense. It's something that Conceicao should be ready about. He should also be ready to counter Shakur's movements. It will be tough for him and I hope that he won't get too surprised when he faces Shakur.
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As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.
Yep, he need to face 2 boxers again if he's really looking to obtain the other belts on his current weight, maybe on Q2 2023 to Q1 2024 we will see Shakur will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division.

I think Garcia vs Tank will happen soon before Shakur have move up to lightweight division, I'm more excited with this fight rather than rematch between Kambosos vs Haney.

There's almost no hype in Kambosos-Haney rematch, and I find it boring although Haney is really brilliant with his skills but people wants some entertaining match to see but we cannot really see those if Haney is participating. Also, I think Kambosos will just lose his face in front of his countrymen because Haney will just dominate him again, no doubt.

Garcia-Tank fight will be much exciting to see though, I hope they can make it happen this year and Shakur should just do some cleaning in his current weight class before moving up.
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

For sure it seems that Garcia will be the likely candidate, I mean those two wanted to fight each other for a long time now and it's about the right timing as both are coming from a victory.

As compare to Shakur wo is still one weight class below and have to win against a tough Robson And if ever he will win, there are more champions still in his division and he will have to clean it up first before looking for more challenges like going up in weight and chase Tank.

I agree, Shakur should just focus in his current division even if he will manage to defeat Robson here because there are still 2 belts remaining that are in possession of two different champions in the super featherweight. Going against Tank will be a tough challenge for him as we don't know yet if he can still have the same speed and power in the upper weight class.
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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO

I haven't fully watched that Valdez-Conceicao controversial fight but I heard a lot say it should've gone to Conceicao.

Both Conceicao and the champion got good skills but Shakur is getting better each day. And Shakur's fighting in his hometown with his promoter staging the event so this is everything wrong for Conceicao. My only concern is Shakur's lack of power. So I really doubt a second-round knockout happens. It is possible Shakur might be a little aggressive here as Conceicao is not a heavy puncher either so knockout may happen but in the late rounds. 
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I prefer to just see him keep fighting champs for a title, he could start with Tank.
I think he will have a problem against Tank, this champion is fast and aggressive at the same time, this should be a great fight but honestly, if that will happen, I'd probably back Tank to win on the battle.

And he is ready to accept that challenge though, that's why he keeps calling on Tank Davis and even was present in Davis fight against Romero and there are a lot of interviews of him after that fight telling the public that Davis and him will make a good fight.

But first he shouldn't play down Robson here, he is a good fighter, maybe that as elite as Stevenson, but he could have his moments in this fight just like what he did against Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Robson lost that one, but he can still redeem himself if he upset Shakur in his hometown but the odds is very small.

This will be very exciting to see soon because there's lots of boxers now who are looking forward to have a fight with Tank Davis, not sure though if who will be the first one to have the chance, is it Shakur or Garcia? Well, for now let's see if Shakur will retain his belt because Robson is not that easy to conquer as their records is not that far to compare but Shakur here is much younger so I can see that he can adjust more.

We need to see how Shakur takes Robson, then speculate what will be his next fate, a win is a good chance of bringing

himself to face Davis and that would be another money fight that will bring more hypes to his career.
He should impress the fans in his upcoming fight and bring the attention to Davis camp, promoters
will surely ride with this and possible to negotiate for the potential fight.
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The chances of winning between the two boxers are difficult to predict where these two boxers already have many supporters, but it is undeniable that Shakur has great technical skills and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent.
and my hope is shakur will win this match just 2 rounds and make the opponent KO
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