Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 183. (Read 31605 times)

I agree with you, these exhibition fights are making money for the fighters, organizers and many people involved in the organization of the event, and as they don't even fight seriously it becomes easy money that everyone is earning, even fighters who are already old and who should retire are still in the exhibition fights, one day we will still see 60 year old guys fighting in these exhibition fights and worse we will see these 60 year old guys fighting and getting sick with back pain


 

I also noticed that, that fight of his against Anderson Silva he was clearly the anticipated winner, I say that because their age difference was very big, Anderson Silva is old, Jake Paul after the victory criticized Dana White, Jake Paul didn't give up criticizing UFC salaries, he says they are low salaries and that athletes need health insurance

Of course there's nothing wrong about that but I doubt they will go out and show their faces proudly, they aren't that courageous for sure. But these days, my perspective for Jake Paul has changed when he announced that he and Silva will establish the "United Fighters Association" dedicated to help fighters who doesn't receive the right cut. But that is if he will be the winner of this fight and fortunately enough, Jake Paul has won the fight against his own idol.

Yeah! It's weird but they making lots of money here due to the demand of the crowd which is increasing every new fight. What I mean by that, is they are inviting new audience whenever there is a new fight. That's why we see more veterans boxers are doing the same thing right now. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, who is he fighting now?

Yes, He isn't the usual Silva, in my opinion, he was fighting but in a manner where he is not himself, watching the fight surely crashed my heart, I'd never imagined Silva in this state surely he is 47 years old now and this is surely the ring rust that everyone is talking about and for Anderson Silva, it really hit him very very hard,


In my opinion, Silva definitely is losing the fight he was hitting Jake Paul in the first round but Jake Paul can really take the beating like it was nothing, for me, there are no controversial what so ever like I have said in my previous post if this fight ends up in a draw I will be the 1st one to get really mad at the Paul Brother and even Silva for agreeing in this fight in the 1st place, but if it ends up in whoever wins it, I will be glad it did, and it did, and watching the fight Anderson Silva is not the same anymore, call it to ring rust but it surely hit him very hard, he is not the usual Anderson Silva, I think he should not fight anymore if he still wants to fight then fight in an MMA playing field and fight known boxer maybe there he can have an advantage, because of kicks and takedowns,

He will continue to be undefeated because he is very smart in choosing his opponent. Maybe that's also the reason why he will not fight Mayweather because Mayweather will not allow to lose in an exhibition fight,  even after retirement, he still wants to keep his undefeated record.

Addition to that, as long as Jake Paul and his camp initiate the exhibition his chance of winning is high, though I go with your point it's Jake Paul who set it up favorable to him but in terms of making money, both are good in picking the fighters to fight with, they keep sucking fans money from the ticket sales and viewers, there's no stopping as they really assessing the potential before calling or scheduling the fight.

Well setup and in returned they will get a decent amount of paychecks.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

Again, I haven't seen the fight but base on what I read, there is no controversial, give it to Jake Paul for beating his idol, an 47 year old wash up in Anderson, hehehe (*sarcasm*). So not sure how they score and think that Silva won the fight here.

And now he is calling Nate Diaz and then Canelo? Lol.

Nate Diaz fight will be fine I guess, two big mouth fighters and obviously this is going to be a hype fight if Nate is willing to be the next dance partner and obviously, if he wanted to have some retirement money.

Too much suspense and waiting will tire out fans.  Like too much fuel will burn out the interest of viewers that when time comes that the fight between the two boxers is done, the hype and the interest of viewers are gone.


I hope they can close the deal sooner and not let their fans hanging because if they keep the negotiation too long, fans might get tired of it and the impact if ever they had agreed on the deal may not be that strong anymore.

Yeah right, the fact that Paul set things up and the only thing that Silva needs to do is to make it look legit, but it's expected
that Paul will win to gain more interest and views.

I don't pay attention that much because the fight is just an exhibition, but if there's a controversy about the outcome, it will
still favor Paul.

The headlines will hype his name and if there's lots of readers about it, he will continue to gain popularity, bad publicity
will serve still in favor of his views and clicks.

People are already fed up with rumors and already learned some lessons from waiting the unification fight between Crawford and Spence, it has been said that their deal is nearing to an end but the opposite has happened. And then we have this Garia-Gervonta fight, for all we know, it's still a rumored. We know that both camps are already interested but a lot can happen once discussion commences. That said, might be better if we'll just wait for the official announcement.

Probably Silva had known that he won't win no matter how good his performance is since the judge will definitely favor Paul.  As a result Paul indeed won via unanimous decision but it was labeled controversial by some sports site since they had it scored in favor of Silva with Paul only taking 2 rounds (including the 8th round knock out)  You can read more about the unofficial scoring of that site in this post

Silva survives the whole 8 rounds though those heavy combinations of Paul gives him a tough night, It's legit that Paul dominated Silva and even Silva did try to punch back but it shows that Paul is prepared enough to counter or to avoid those punches. Good win for Paul more money for him as he is calling for Diaz and Alvarez to hype his win.


I also observe that, knowing Silva from UFC he is more on defense and will counter back once he see good opportunity, but today he don't have that same strategy or barrowing your words, he is not on his self I guess.

Here is the result of the Paul VS Silva fight

Jake Paul VS Anderson Silva ROUND 8 DECISION - LOST

It seems the fights really legit. man Anderson Silva seems not himself no counters and didn't last because he has gas out Anderson Silva knowing him how to fight he would never push forward in an offense to his opponent, he was the one exposing his opponent with the untouchable defense of his and then counters the counters was gone in his gameplay this is not the Anderson Silva that I know and love, or this could be the fixed fight that Paul want but surely there are some moments on the fight that Anderson Silva seems to negate clinch from Jake Paul because of his MMA background but surely this is not the same Anderson Silva I used to watch,

We can say that he still got the footwork but man his punching rhythm is not there it was uncharacteristic for me to do such things, but Jake Paul's footwork is not really furnished yet if he decided to fight a professional boxer he would surely lose, but still, the fight is not boring, I surely enjoyed it and Anderson Silva is not the same anymore so maybe he should really be retired completely,

Well, we all know that we want to see a totally renewed Pacquiao and doing many rematches, I want to see Pacquiao against Ugas again, for me that was the fight that took him out for a long time, so I would like him to have that opportunity, and that obviously Ugas can and would say yes, on the other hand, the only rematch that he wants but I know it's not possible is against Mayweather, it's like that that we always want but can't, but a rematch of that style is what I would like to see from him, obviously at this point Pacquiao will not prepare to lose, he no longer has politics in his mind, but something else.


For me personally, Tyson marks a before and after a day of first class boxing, it is that as I said before, I still remember how it would have been right now, when I was a child and Tyson bit a boxer's ear, that was for me something that I could not believe it, it was something that marked me a lot, at that time I practiced Hapkido, then I liked boxing more, Tyson for me saw him as those monsters from the movies that were invincible, from then on I was interested in his whole life in sports, if he is already better, honestly, that makes me very happy, I hope he recovers completely and that it does not come back to him, I would like to see him in action again, even if it is in an exhibition fight.


One of the curious things about Tyson:

Mike Tyson reveals the reason why he fell asleep during a live TV interview with Piers Morgan




Source: https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/mike-tyson-why-fell-asleep-live-tv-interview-20221021

Silva is a very experienced fighter that can take a punch, but Paul is a heavy hitter. It's very hard to speculate here but I think it will come down to whether Silva can survive the first 1 or 2 rounds and feel his opponent. Usually very skilled and experienced fighters who don't strike very hard take their time and if they don't get hit hard early they'll keep finding openings and scoring later. I'd also bet my money on Silva.

Well, I really don't consider him to return anymore, after what he has gone through, and in my opinion, he can never fight the same way again, but in some cases, I think that he would surely miss those days when he is fighting inside the ring, but maybe he will surely be seen in some podcast with some MMA or boxing legends that he could talk some of the combat sports they surely have knowledge about I really misses seeing them going into details,

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Well going into the Paul vs. Silva event this is my picks for some fights,

Jake Paul VS Anderson Silva

The stake odds for this match are 1.38 for Paul and 2.95 for Silva, in seeing this fight we should consider that Paul doesn't want to fight professional boxers but he would surely be trained for this match, though his enemy is an amateur in boxing, and is retired in the MMA, we would likely be seeing that as an opponent for Jake Paul, for me Anderson Silva will not allow fixed fights, and with this, I really think that he has experience with boxing, so this could be a close fight and might be a hard-fought-for Jake Paul, my pick is Anderson Silva,

But even though these brothers have lots of haters, they are successful in earning big bucks in all their fights. Logan Paul is inactive though and really not considering boxing as a priority sport. That's how they make money out of their profession even though many people dislike them.

That end up in the question of who's the real winner now and who ends up being bitter.

Jake Paul's status in boxing can still be saved as long as he will fight a real boxer within his league and not against a non-pro boxer and is already at retirement age even with how big those names are.

And Ryan further this with this statement,


https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-says-hes-accepted-terms-tank-davis-fight-we-gotta-get-this-bs-figured-out--170043

To some extend Ryan is saying the truth here, I mean if a fighter wants to fight someone, then his manager or network affiliation should try their best to set things up. Unfortunately, unlike any other sports, in boxing there are a lot of stumbling block and sticking point as far as negotiations is concern.

And just like the Crawford vs Spence that falls apart, we don't want to miss this fight between him and Tank and for sure there will be a demand for it.