Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 194. (Read 31941 times)

As long as they are Youtuber's MMA fighters Floyd Mayweather will surely fight, them, for me Deji is no match against Floyd Mayweather but Conor McGregor has a fighting chance because he is a fighter and he also fought Mayweather inside the ring, so he has experience in fighting him, but a huge likely that Floyd Mayweather will surely fight both these fighters,


It was tragic because it can not be prevented if it is an arms or leg injury it is not fatal, but most of them are fatal would to the Brain maybe it was Intracranial Bleeding to the head that cause this boxer to pass away, and sometimes become comatose for MMA most injuries was on the arms, and legs and not fatal but for Boxing for the head to sustain that severe continues blow could surely cause internal bleeding,

That Professional boxer was Axiel Van Dignos an 18 years old, and I surely heard of that news, but because I thought that he was just an amateur I haven't added him to the list of boxers, but in hearing this news again, I was shocked that he is really a professional and only 18 years old, and his death will be just because of a sparring match, and it was an Intracranial Bleeding and due to repeated blows to the head, I am quoting this word because I assumed this is the cause of all the deaths in boxing, and no one can tell if this would likely occur to all boxers or just an unlucky few,

I saw this fight. In the undercard of Sebastian Fundora. Maidana was there too to support his countryman. Martinez is very strong and is very aggressive of a boxer. Ancajas was no match, bleeding, gassed-out and he was beaten to the punch by the stronger and much elusive boxer.

I was looking forward to Adames and Montiel. Thought it was a banger but Adames finished it early in the third round. Main card was pretty clear to me that Fondura will win but didn't thought it would go the distance. Looking forward to that kid to face Charlo.

 

Accidents happen and I believe if the person is bound to that destiny (death) at that age, he will die no matter what the cause is.  If the person did not die in that fight, he will probably die by other means.  We also see some deaths in other sports which should be unlikely to happen but it happens.  Like for example in a football game, you can see the list of death here[1] while they are playing. Even death on track and field happens.[2]

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Anyway, I am still waiting for the result of Marinez - Ancajas fight.  Hopeful to hear a good news soon.  

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing
[2] https://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/local/2014/12/10/cornell-track-field-death/20218737/

Those were tragic, well, all of the deaths while having a fight are tragic. It's too sad that they have to go too soon and it's going to be a match. I guess you've also heard this news about a young boxer in our country that suddenly died after a sparring match.
(https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/844239/18-year-old-boxer-dies-after-losing-consciousness-while-sparring/story/)

Combat sport that can takeaway lives, but there's no force that happened here fighters do have free-will even they knew that the sport they are is very risky they choose to continue fighting whatever happen they wanted to have a good career and the money that they can take is huge.

They've learned thing from the experienced of those successful legends and they wanted to follow that path even it possibly takes their own life.

It looks like Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor are indeed talking behind the scenes to make the rematch into a reality because it was already reported that the two is nearing to close the deal and it says that the fight will be contested at 155 pounds, currently, the two are just finishing some details including the terms.

If that will happen, their rematch will likely happen somewhere in the 1st quarter of 2023 because Floyd Mayweather have 1 more exhibition fight this year versus Deji (another YouTube star) at the Coca-Cola Arena, Dubai.

We could say that this is a two rematch because they are planning two fights across two sports.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2022/10/08/634163bd46163fdb7d8b45db.html

Fewer rounds for the beginners until they earned enough experience and ready for 10 and 12 rounds.

I saw it before, they weigh the boxers boxing gloves. So they are in the same weight. Cleto Reyes was very popular before. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Pacquiao and many Mexicans wear it because it is harder. But I don't see anymore boxers using Cleto Reyes. Many boxers now want to use gloves that can protect their hands more. Mayweather too wears gloves that can add protection to his fragile hands. Rival is what I can see most often, I think it is a new brand. Loma uses that Rival gloves. 

Watching the recent deaths in boxing, this year 2022 Arest Saakyan, death to opponent Igor Semernin, Simiso Buthelezi's death to opponent Siphesihle Mntungwa, and Luis Quinones's last opponent Jose Munoz, well all causes of death was head trauma or injury to the head, Notable injury fighters can not stand up and unconscious while Simiso Buthelezi was fighting a hallucination inside the ring when the referee stops the fight because Simiso Buthelezi never stop fighting that day, he keeps on going on, till the end,


Well, they tend to just accept there are certain risks involved in boxing but they certainly want to lessen that risk, in the MMA the casualties are already lessened, and sometimes prevented, because of the stoppage so the lives of the fighters will surely depend on the referee's inside the ring because what I see with the referee's in boxing they will not access to stop the fight when they saw that the fighter is still able to fight they would continue the fight and will count to 10 that may cause brain hemorrhage while on the MMA when a certain fighter jumps to the knockdown fighter and will continue the barrage of punches to the opponent the referee would stop the fight in the act of saving those fighters, but sometimes fighters will get mad on referees for saving and doing his job,

I wish him a speedy recovery. One of the greatest and the last times I saw him was he's like showing his prowess and his punches on a video so, this is surprising to me that he's in a wheelchair now. We really don't know how long our strength will remain but Mike is old already and despite him being athletic, he wasn't able to skip this.

I was one of it that was truly surprised upon seeing it. I may not be a hardcore fan of Mike but someone who admires him during his prime and his achievements probably make me one of those fans too. This is a very sad day for me aside from seeing him like that. 

Yes, boxing fans all over the world as shock to see Mike Tyson in wheel chair, and If I'm not wrong, he and Jones started the exhibition fights of former boxers facing each other, I mean true ex-champion. And it was also the what if for us, what if they should face before, during their primes and who will win. Nevertheless, again, if my memory serves me right, he had some podcast too who he interview boxers after their fight and future fights and thoughts on the current match up schedule. Hopefully he can bounce back and recover from what he is suffering.

I'm also not aware on this that's why I made some research, and there it goes.

Suffering From Crippling Illness, Mike Tyson Makes Disturbing ‘Pigeon Coop’ & People Comparison





I hope he will be okay, he is one of the legends in the sports of boxing and it's just sad he suffered from this kind of disease.

Almost everyone knows those risks but just like what you've said, they can't do about it to make the sport much safer. I guess that's the end of it and for now, all they can do is accept the said risks while the people behind the industry is searching for some remedies without making the fight uninteresting. This is the sport they chose, combat sports specifically and it's natural that fighters will get hurt.

I'm not aware of it though, but if this is true, then this is a sad news.


As far as the news goes, we heard that he went bankrupt and he totally blame it on Don King and all the bad friends that he surround himself throughout his career that's why he loses all the money that he had earn during his prime in boxing and he is the cash cow back then. If only he did have friends that have good intentions with him. He wouldn't turn what he is right now.

They know it and they choose to continue. Those unusual accidents are possible to happen. We don't know what fate is waiting for each fighter who steps inside the ring. The organization is doing their part in making sure that the rules are being implemented but again like what I'm saying accident can happen even the fighter thinks that he's ready and healthy enough to proceed with the fight, one solid conversion can kill if the fighter land the punch in a critical part of the body.

No one knows when it will be happening and how to avoid it. It's destiny that brings the fighter to this crucial place.

Right! That is the word inevitable, these scenarios are always possible to happen in any given fights and the fate will just chose the boxer because that is how the life works. We may get lucky sometimes and there are also sometimes that we are not that lucky, they know that already, but for them the risks are worth it.

If I don't doubt it, I know that Mayweather is a fighter who uses his intelligence a lot in boxing, and that's not bad, in fact a boxing fight is won by the most intelligent fighter, for me in boxing he must be at 70% intelligence and the other 30% strength and ability, Mayweateher is one of the best in the world, a master in taking everything to the technical level, but what people expect is not the technical, it is the spectacle that good blows are given, comibantions, this is similar as it was in the past Olympics where the Japanese who came out in a wheelchair was the one who won, when we all saw that he did everything wrong, then the technical part is sometimes not so good.


I see your point and yes, you are absolutely right, I am also one of those who thinks that boxers should fight until they have no more strength left and can put on a super show, I know that somehow with those new rules if they have lowered the level a little, it is not the same that they reach 15 rounds than they reach 12 rounds, then what you say about the figure should be up to 10 and not up to 8, this suggests that people lower the level mentally , because you will see these softer rules, ethnonce in part if it gives a little bit of comfort to the boxers, but it really takes away like that "flavor", I really agree with your thought.


Well, certainly the gloves thing is something additional, for us it is more exciting that they have light gloves, because the speed of the blows is much greater, and if we could talk about great things that would make boxing bigger and with more options to have emotions in the fans, if they change the gloves to be lighter I think it would attract more people, but the bad thing is that blows like that, it's like you say, would cause permanent damage to the person, however I know what that is, because in part when it comes to boxing those gloves are somewhat softer that they don't hurt, in Hapkido the gloves are softer, and I know that sometimes they do do some damage.

I heard Mike Tyson is seriously ill, he can't walk and is only in a wheelchair, is this true?

Mike is my favorite legend of boxing, I do like boxing because of him. when I was young I do not like boxing because it was boring to watch 12 rounds, but after watching on youtube how he Knocks out in only a second, I'm direct to love him and any kind of boxing. he did wrong by biting Holyfield's ear and everyone has forgiven him. but, there are still many exhibitions offered to him to meet Holyfield again, I heard about $100 million, and I don't know how this continues.

Yes, there's a certain reason the rounds are up to that number. It's really to control and avoid that scene when a sudden strong punch has been thrown to the body part which can cause the death of the boxer.
You'll never know if it's on the head, back head, or even on the abdomen part could also cause death when the internal organs of the boxer that have been hit are delicate and will cause implications inside or hemorrhage.

I think there are fight that is being sanction for 10 rounds, specially young prospects like 10 fights or less. But as far as the gloves goes, I remember Manny loving the Cleto gloves or it is Reyes gloves, both weight but the difference is that one is a puncher gloves and then the others to protect the hands or something like that.

So I guess the boxing organizations really done everything to protect the fighters in a brutal knockout, but inevitable that they really punch so hard that it can damage their opponent for good.

Well, I think people will eventually get tired of watching him beat the crap out of Youtuber MMA fighters, or retired MMA fighters, if that happens he will eventually stop this nonsense, and maybe get back to the old regular boxer, but we will see if that happens because if there are people that want to watch him beat the crap out of non-boxer fighter then we just have to keep on watching it until he grows old on it,

Yeah! Conor McGregor is another money-making dude, that is surely one big fight for Mayweather, and if these two would collide again I guess there will be tons of Pay per views, and let's admit that these two have a lot of fans that would love them inside the ring,


As I have said there are more deaths in boxing than in MMA, and I am suggesting ways to reduce those deaths by reducing those rounds but surely there will be people that would not allow it, and that is why boxing is remade into non-lethal sports, in the old days they are not using gloves at all and like you have said the fight to the death, that is why it reduced to a number of rounds because of some heavy concussion to the head of the fighter that would likely trauma anyone's brain, but apparently we are just suggesting here prevention and how to lessen deaths in the sport of boxing,