Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 227. (Read 31605 times)

Thanks, at least someone has agree to me, 

Yeah, I think it's obvious that Casimero has been treated very well by the WBO, they given him the second chance, most boxer don't. Once they failed the weight or for some medical reasons, can't make it to the fight, there chances are gone.

So Casimero is on the crossroads, mis judgement on his end, so he has to pay for it. No more fight for the belt, he has to start all over. Or move to super-bantamweight so that he will not have the problem of not able to make the desired weight for bantam.

That's natural, we already know Mayweather and he surely wanted the bigger slice just like their fight last time when both of them are still fighting professionally, Pacquiao was only guaranteed 40% cut while Mayweather had the 60%. This time, I know that there will be a big money on the line, surely it's very rare these days to have an interesting fight in exhibition so I'm confident that people will surely pay for that seat.

I'm also seeing the same scenario and that is WBO won't give him that request he wants because they are done on giving that same chance and Casimero just wasted his opportunity. The WBO will just go silent for a few days so that they will look like they are reviewing his request but I highly think that it won't be approved too.

His only chance is to move in super-bantamweight or featherweight and try to be the champion in that division so that Inoue will be the one who will look for him when the latter decides to move up soon.

I only wish he would be given a chance by the WBO management but I think the WBO is focused now on Paul Butler after he defeated Jonas Sultan I think he is not Satisfied and disappointed in John Riel Casimero, after the incident on his weight loss procedure, and after elevating himself as the WBO reigning champion Butler is focused on the Naoya Inoue Fight, and with this, I think John Riel Casimero will likely need to wait, or crawl back up again, after that incident his reputation was then plummeted down,


I am really doubting Manny Pacquiao here, I think he is not in shape for a fight, if we look at Floyd Mayweather he is still active in the ring towards his exhibition matches, while Manny Pacquiao is busy with Politics, but lost for the Presidency, but for now, I am doubtful that Pacquiao can regain his old self and physique, but given a specific time maybe he can get back again but not as an official fight but for the exhibition fight only, but yeah Pacquiao is not busy anymore maybe he can focus on boxing again, but I really doubt it,


I think they are in a bloody conversation about what their going to do with Casimero, after that weight loss incident if they will be giving him a chance or not if Casimero could get a chance then the fight will commence, but if they won't let Casimero have his request then it is likely he will restart from scratch, I am disappointed on what Casimero is doing, I think his head is getting bigger because of the fame, I think he needs to humble himself first, I am a Filipino and a fan of Casimero but I don't want to tolerate something that is not right, so if they wouldn't give him a fight then he needs to start from zero again,

Maybe there are reasons that they will not grant him, not the first time that he was overweight in fight, second, he was given a second chance by the organization and yet Casimero take that for granted. WBO will look like a fool if they allow him again, just saying.

Just go on the next weight, no need for him to stay as he body can't squeeze to that limit and this might be one reason that he will lose in his next fight if he insist on the bantamweight. It might be dangerous for him if he go again.

If that is the case then the story seems to be too good to be true. The camp of Pacquiao is not confirming it and it was just Amir Khan who spill this news to the public.

We don't know if this is true or not or what motivated Khan to tell it to the public. Maybe to pressure Manny? Not sure. So I guess we can call that both of them are still officially retired, no boxing or exhibitions match but we really can't say this for certain. Manny might come out of his retirement and do some exhibition fight similar to Mayweather to keep the money flowing.

However, as per rumors, the offer was just being told to Amir Khan by Pacquiao's camp and not the other way around.

I think Amir Khan won't say it if it's not true. But maybe Khan just thinks that it will happen for good already even though the negotiations aren't started yet. He might just overwhelm so he headed straight to the media and told everything about the offer.

At that time, Pacquiao is on vacation after losing his Presidential bid in the Philippines that's why there was no official comment from him about the speculation of returning to the ring against Amir Khan, be it an exhibition match or a real match.

There is no news yet if WBO will ordered a fight between Butler or the former champion Casimero. I haven't follow Casimero's YT, usually he posted some updates there, but who knows, maybe he is working with his promotional  company to get a crack at Butler first and then if he wins then fight Inoue next year. He really made some bad moves in his career, and hopefully he learn from it and never have to do that again.

If there's a big money on the line and they try to cooperate again with Mayweather. I guess this is possible.

It's like the actual retiring match for both of them and sums of money is on the pot. I think for sure both of them will have a bite on it, most likely Pacquiao is an automatic yes on it.

But for Mayweather, there could be more conditions and more portions of the pot will go for him.

I think that's really far from happening and even if Amir Khan is overrated, Manny Pacquiao and his camp knows what would be the best for them. I bet they will only accept fights that will be more interesting and not a fight with just pure monkey business because that is against Pacquiao's stand in life.

It's more much ideal if it's Pacquiao and Mayweather even if I do not view the latter as one of the boxing legends but these two deserves a 2nd fight as they both didn't had the chance to have a rematch.

If that's the case then I guess we will see a much more interesting undisputed fight in the bantamweight division soon because we already knew that Casimero will be hailed as a winner if it's against Paul Butler. But that will only be possible if Casimero had found a legal way to get rid of his weight issues because if he will be granted by his request, this is his second chance to have a fight with Inoue soon.

Well, as long as he is now retired I think I don't want to see him boxed again after that last fight he is not fitted to fight anymore, after that fight, his eyes were swollen and can not see on both so his wife would need to spoon-feed him, I really think he can not take a beating anymore, and he can not knock out a pretty much young boxer too, he should focus on politics, but after that lost from the run for the presidency, I think we can not see him for a while and let him focus on his family, and maybe head coach his son on boxing, you may never know his son might get his genes in being a good boxer, and I really love watching him fight aswell, back on the days of his prime,


This will be an easy fight for Naoya Inoue no doubt about it, I can tell from each guy's fight footage Paul Butler against Jonas Sultan was a heated battle and in the first couple of rounds Paul Butler is having a hard time with Sultan, I think he is still adjusting to how Jonas fight, and from that Paul Butler is really a sly dude, making use of the ring, in evading Jonas well, a hard fight for Sultan because he doesn't get so many points on Butler because of how slippery his opponent can be,

But For Naoya Inoue, he will punch you with fast and accurate punches, that can enter from any opponent's defense this is what I saw in his fight with Donaire, there is no pressure on Naoya Inoue's side it was full of confidence and his punches will surely hurt and Nonito Donaire s pretty much at the back end of the level Naoya Inoue has achieved,

Well, even if it's on display, it's a good step, because if they both have that itch and in some way that could encourage them to have a normal and real fight, however, I think it could be the safest step in case a fight breaks out and maybe change your mind and if I know the ervancha, it's a pity that Pacquiao hasn't done well in politics, then what's left is boxing, where he can win.

I think Mayweather should have a good reason to say no to a rematch with Pacquiao, I say something, if he is the best, then he must prove that he is still the best, and the fight they had is a thing of the past.

I'm sure WBO will grant Casimero's request. There's no reason why it shouldn't be granted.

But this time, Casimero needs to show some valid reasons that he is fit for the fight. Imagine he is having weight problems for 2 consecutive matches and that is not a good impression. He won't stand a chance against Naoya Inoue if he is struggling to catch up with the required weight.

All he can do is trash talk and that's where he wins lol if he don't do something about his weight problems.

Really? I thought Tete was still fighting in bantamweight, well if that's the case then Casimero should pray that his requests will be granted and if he will be granted, I hope that he won't waste that opportunity and make sure that his weight will catch-up this time. I bet that will be his last chance in the bantamweight because if he can't still address his issue then I guess it's time for him to move up.

Sorry but I can't really agree that Mayweather is a legend and I know that there are people that are going to be happy to argue about that, but I understand your opinion about him. But anyway, yes, it's really possible to see a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight soon and that said fight will generate huge revenues just like their past fights. People are unsatisfied that they didn't get to see a rematch between them so maybe this rematch will do that trick.

It is a good win by Tete, however, I would say that Cunningham is just a B-level fighter. So can clearly see the difference, night and day, Tete has the fundamentals like a 1-2 stiff jab and Cunningham just throwing wild punches.

And in that main event, I'm not surprised to see Joe Joyce knockout Hammer in their Heavyweight class. But not sure if this win will give him a crack on the belt. Tyson Fury is (semi) retired and then we have the Joshua vs Usyk fight.

But Tete has move to a higher division in this fight, super bantamweight division at 122 lbs. So if ever they will have to face again, Casimero might have to move up as well. Well we have been talking about him not making the 118 lbs anymore (he was caught using sauna's to remove excess weight, strip of his belt).

Maybe for the last time Casimero will fight at this weight and target Bulter to get his belt back. Or if extended, fight what we all have been waiting for, Inoue.

A rematch would be great to groom Casimero's name again but as of now, Casimero is still waiting for the WBO if he will be granted by his request to be a mandatory challenger against Paul Butler and have that chance to fight Inoue if ever he will manage to win but I believe Casimero won't have much trouble against Butler, his trouble is his own self because of his weight issues.

He was able to bounce back from an unexpected loss from Casimero, but unfortunately, Casimero has not come back yet, don't know if he can still have a big fight after he wasted his opportunity to fight Inoue but some bad decision making. Maybe a rematch for Tete and Casimero, that would be an entertaining fight for sure.