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Well, maybe that blogger was right that Casimero has a high chance to defeat Donaire than the other way around, I mean we saw Donaire's recent performance and we can really say that he ain't that much of the Filipino Flash anymore that we used to know. And I think going down in Super Flyweight division will be a good start for Donaire before he retires soon.

Well, right now Nonito Donaire is really focused on getting his 5th division belt, and after that a rematch for Naoya Inoue, he surely said it in the Article that I have read, but for me, it is really a hard fight for him to take another Inoue fight, well Donaire is just very Stubborn to surrender for sure and accept defeat, that is what kind of a person Nonito Donaire is, I surely agree that he just needs to fight boxers that he didn't fight before but for me pick a fight he can win, but again Nonito Donaire is not that kind of a boxer, he would surely want a challenge,


You are right, I never heard about him aswell, seems like he's avoiding bigger fights but not cherry-picking a fight, he is just avoiding a title match that is all, but that record of 19 wins and all 19 knockouts was really tremendously good even though he is not likely to fight on a well-known match but he has held the WBO International welterweight title since 2021, and he is really known for his punching power and his knock-out percentage is currently at 100% he wouldn't want his good record to be tainted even with a Decision record,

I'm surprised he's on welterweight division, it's a same division with Crawford and Spence, but this boxer never want to challenge a world champion. He's not really cherry pick his opponent since his opponent also have a good record, I think he's more focus about his record rather than making his name bigger by getting a belt. It's the first time I hear his name, maybe he wanted to get the belt when Crawford vs Spence have happened, so he will likely join the vacant belt.

Last weekend Vergil Ortiz Jr. once again dominated and knocked out another opponent. His resume is very scary at a 19-0-19 record and with solid performances over tough former world champions and top contenders. When will this kid get a title shot? I followed him and Teofimo Lopez when they started their careers and I used to think that one day they will be fighting each other. Now Vergil is a welterweight and is yet to become champion while Teofimo already became a lineal and unified champ at lightweight and is now seeking his second division title. These 2 young stars have opposite personalities in boxing though as Teofimo is loud and arrogant while Vergil is humble and always smiling.

IMHO, there's no way that he'll be given a 3rd time of chance to beat Inoue. That's already too much and as a professional, I'm sure they also have some sort of delicate that they shouldn't be bitter and accept the decision.

It's okay to continue.

But, not anymore with Inoue and just accept that he's stronger than him and that's it. Move forward to the next match that he's looking for.

That is a huge possibility, despite that possibility,  I am still wondering if the Inoue and Casimero fight happened, who would have won?  Is there a chance for Casimero to win that fight?  I heard from some Youtube blogger that Donaire is evading Casimero because the latter has a huge possibility to beat Donaire.


I am not fond of watching two Filipino boxers fighting each other, besides I think Casimero will have trouble with the weight if he chases Donaire to Super Flyweight Division.  The fight between the two is highly unlikely to happen unless they have a match before they move to different weight division.

A Donaire vs Casimoer fight will be exciting to see though, no doubt about that. But I think they only have a slight chance that they will share the same ring because Donaire is planning to move to super flyweight which is a lower weight class whereas Casimero might move to the upper weight class somewhere in super bantamweight or featherweight because we know that he's struggling in reducing his weights, what more if he will chase Donaire in super flyweight.

A rematch with Inoue is not even close to happening. The time Nonito Donaire will take a shot again at the Bantamweight title, Inoue might be at the point now where he challenges boxers in a much upper-weight division (probably at 122 lbs up) which is possibly his next task if he will become an undisputed champion on the bantamweight.

Adding to that, it's not even sure if all of his future fights will be a Victory for him. That's a long climb again before having a chance for a title match.

Right now, it's Paul Butler's WBO title left for Inoue that needs to steal and he will now become an undisputed bantamweight champion. If that happened, no more challenges were left in that division, and moving-up weight is the logical thing that he will do next. He's also catching age that's why as much as possible, he should still at his best shape once he considers moving up.

I think Donaire has been discouraged to continue his boxing journey after having consistent Lost in the ring which I think is normal. If he hasn't won against Inoue, I don't think he could still beat him for the 3rd time. If he will still have another fight, it should be with other boxers for him to prove himself in the ring again. Donaire only needs rest but if he wants to quit, it would be better if he'll leave a remarkable memory on the boxing industry by having a good last match.

We don't know about that.

Many will have just to agree with him whatever he thinks is best for him. He can have another match if he want to but it's not anymore with Inoue.

He can match with other boxers that he haven't taken yet and I guess that's where he should focused first before aiming for someone like Inoue again.

There is a fight this weekend, it Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs Michael McKinson at welterweight division.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTu7fndVXHU

Probably this is a cherry pick fight for the comebacking Ortiz Jr. Almost a year lay-off so he needs some tune up fight so that can maybe go for the belt in his next fight.

He is rated on all sanctioning bodies, and is in the top 5.

This is also be an eliminator fight for the WBA Welterweight in addition for Ortiz's WBO International Welterweight Title.

So now that Ortiz won, he should be next in line for the WBA belt, held by Spence.

Well, we just surely want what is best for him, but he sure knows his limits more than anyone, well, maybe he is thinking of 1 last fight against Naoya Inoue before he retired completely, and I really hope he could win it, but in my analysis with Naoya Inoue I am just comparing their 1st and 2nd fight, Naoya Inoue is completely in a different level now, for me I would compare him to Ryan Garcia, the speed and power combination is very unbelievable, well this is just my assessment on the skills on Naoya Inoue, Nonito Donaire is not within reach, for me I will be aiming for easier fights,

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Right now I just saw on the news as for Golden Boy Promotions CEO Oscar De La Hoya said that they are abandoning the negotiations regarding the Ryan Garcia VS Gervonta "TANK" Davis fight and will be moving on to another opponent, and De La Hoya added that no one is answering to his calls regarding the fight and he thinks they are given the run-around, so it was really depressing to say but they will not going with the fight anymore and will be moving on,

I really think this is sad news to read and for me, I really want to see these two clashes and I think a lot of fans would likely to see this aswell, but yeah Mayweather Promotions is not answering, but I think Dela Hoya should just go directly to Gervonta Davis because I thought that he has moved out of the Mayweather Promotions? so likely to say he should have gone directly to Gervonta Davis himself,

It is on him if he thinks that he can still do things on his own, this is no longer all about his career but all about the passion for boxing. But after this, we know that he's still going to be a big pillar of this sport for the younger generation.

I don't consider that fight anymore, if there's already a disagreement before, it's hard to make it happen. Well, I want the Inoue and Casimero match instead of this.

We all want the best for him.

No doubt that Inoue is on the next level and Donaire, whether we like it or not is really no match on him. And it makes no sense anymore for him to have another match if he still can't accept that defeat or ever thinks of it again.

I really wish the best for him, I really do, but it is really easier said than done, but after that Naoya Inoue fight I then realize how crazy Naoya Inoue has Improved and it was really a lot to think that their recent fight was really so close, and on the 2nd fight Naoya Inoue has easily defeated Nonito Donaire, I feel that he is not really suited for the Monster I think if he can get the belt on the Flyweight division for me to take dominance on that division then, just fight the money fights but knowing Nonito Donaire he doesn't want to give up and if he wants a 3rd fight with Naoya Inoue then we will surely see the 3rd match between them,


Well, there are no further plans for that fight to come thru, but if many would like to see that fight happen I think some management will likely for that fight to come to fruition but for Casimero, he is aiming to start over because of his actions, and Nonito Donaire would not want his record to be tainted if he fights Casimero, or he doesn't want to take part on John Riel Casimero's FiascoI really think right now these two is more focus on their goals now than with their misunderstandings, so they keep aside their squabbles and for Nonito Donaire, a Flyweight belt to be added and become a 5th division title holder, and for John Riel Casimero he needs to move along because he got a lot to do and work his way up again,

He will go down weight and plans to dominate it. After that, he will return to bantamweight to take a chance again on a title. We are not sure though how many fights he will do in the super flyweight. The time he may consider taking a shot at a bantamweight title, he is already too aged to compete there.

Casimero vs Inoue might not also happen as your wish. They both don't have the title and promoters might see that fight as not profitable to organize. The hype on their names is now gone following the prior event that happened to both of them, Casimero struggling with his weight and being stripped out of his WBO title and Donaire losing a unification match with Inoue within just a 2nd round.

Maybe, Donaire feels that it is not yet time for him to retire, hence, still planning to fight.
Now, I am wondering if the fight of Donaire with Casimero will push thru.
Remember, they have disagreements why they haven't fought?
Anyway, whatever his next plans will be, hope that he can achieve what he wants to achieve before he hang up his gloves.

On Nonito's future plans.

Well, this is perfect.

That's all I want to know and I thought that he would take the sentiment of his fans to just retire after he has lost to Inoue for the 2nd time. Still, he's got his prowess and all of that strength.

Hopefully, if he ever has another match to come he'll be able to redeem himself at least and gets a win.

Well, in my opinion even though he is still the same Nonito Donaire, he never upped in terms of speed and strength, not like Naoya Inoue, I really think Nonito Donaire has reached his ceiling for improvement, there is no room for improvement but Naoya Inoue hasn't reached his limits, and can surely improve even more, but Nonito Donaire can still compete and it is a good choice for him to target the lower division first if he wants another belt in his disposal,


He said that he is not done yet, but he wants another belt to be added to his glory, he is now aiming to go down the 115-lb super-flyweight division, and seek fights with bigger names in that division we can see a Donaire Versus Chocolatito” Gonzalez of Nicaragua or Japan’s reigning WBO super flyweight Kazuto Ioka, either of the 2 if who's ready for Nonito Donaire, then if a fight settles of either of these two then he's going to return for a rematch for the Bantamweight with Naoya Inoue again, but for now, he is aiming to become a 5 division champion,

Yes, but it is also competition for them out there, that model is built not just in boxing but in other sports as well. And it's painful because the fans are not rewarded with good fights that we are supposed to see like Garcia vs Davis. But believed me, if the money is there, this networks will have no choice but to discussed the possibility, and then could make the fight happen fr us. There is pride behind this all network executive, but they can't deny that in order for their company to stay, they have to make this kind of fight for us.

And if I'm not mistaken, when Donaire tried to go up and fight Nicholas Walters, he was badly beaten up. So maybe staying at 118 lbs or even going down is the best way for him if he wanted to stay active. I was just thinking that maybe he is done in 118 lbs, I mean he faces almost everyone and lost to the best. Him entertaining a fight with Ioka and then Gonzalez will be a dream match for us boxing fans. But not sure if he can take both of them in the future, I mean his age will be a big factor in his decision to continue.