Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 224. (Read 30515 times)

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

Wait a minute, when you say Manny, do you mean Pacquiao? because if that is the case my interest will increase a lot, because the truth is I don't like the style that Mayweather has, the truth is I'm still disappointed in what he showed in his fight against him, where they agreed not to give any rematch, for me Mayweather is a boxer who He is only interested in fucking money before anything else, for this reason when it comes to exhibition fights they do not attract much attention to me, because it is not the same interest as a fight with all the law, but in an eventual fight of exhibition against Pacquiao if I would like to see it, maybe I haven't seen much news regarding boxing lately because football has me hooked.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

I also like Dmitry Bivol to be his next opponent but sadly it is not yet in tuition, maybe there are problems with the promotion or they are just worried about each fighter getting a loss in their good records but for me certainly I like Artur Beterbiev to have a match against Dmitry Bivol and yes every fan wants a great fight like that, undefeated versus another undefeated, I certainly just wish it will come into fruition,

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Another fight that I am anticipating this coming July will be a great fight to watch in my opinion, I surely anticipate this kid to surely performed well and his punching power could be another threat for Fortuna,

Ryan Garcia VS Javier Fortuna

July 16, Los Angeles 12 rounds Lightweight

This will be a test for Ryan Garcia if his punching power can take down Javier Fortuna because Ryan Garcia has proven to have a lethal punch that could knock out his opponent with speed and power, to pressure Fortuna, I would like to really see that right now Garcia had 22 fights all 18 is knockout while 4 was on a decision, and Javier Fortuna has 43 fights, 37 wins 26 knockouts and 11 decisions, while has 3 losses, on his record, Fortuna has the advantage on experience, while Garcia has the reach and height advantage, we will surely see here if the hype on Ryan Garcia is not really a hype but is a proven fact that he is truly a pound for pound, fighter,

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:


https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

In any case, Joshua vs. Usyk 2 has officially been announced. The fight will be on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I think Anthony Joshua might win this, very much similar to his upset loss then rematch win vs. Andy Ruiz.



The new match will take place on the 20th August 2022, with the destination for the fight also having been announced – which is Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/88024275-anthony-joshua-vs-oleksandr-usyk-2-press-conference-time-how-to-watch

That's why it is right to assume that their fight will be a blockbuster and Beterbeiv is the favorite fighter to win it. Just like they speculated Beterbeiv might be the one who will dominate the fight but we cannot close the door of chances for Smith Jr. to cause him trouble by showing his skills inside the ring. because no matter how fast and powerful you are inside the ring, if you are lacking good strategy, you will gonna fall into your opponent's trap and will get dominated throughout the rounds. We have already seen such kinds of surprising skills multiple times this year and this one could also be one of them.

Canelo Alvarez better thinks twice because Beterbiev is in another league than the average fighters he faces, having no defeats and all fights were done in a good flawless Knockout, but maybe after seeing the fight with Joe Smith Jr. he will surely think twice now because if he don't he would surely end up like Smith, or maybe he saw a glimpse of hope on how to handle Artur Beterbiev, he could be the first opponent of Beterbiev to survive losing with a decision,


I haven't watched the movie yet, but I have known that movie as Kid Kulafu, maybe I will watch it later, and it is pretty much known here in the Phillippines,

Well, many Filipino kids here are pretty much exposed to poverty which is why they think that Boxing will be the only solution to their problem, but I think it is not the case, there are many different aspects of why people become boxers and you can not be rich just because you are a boxer some boxer's failed to deliver or attain what Manny Pacquiao has brought to our country there are boxer here that become poorer when they stop their career as a boxer I think the drives that Manny have will surely differ in many boxers here in the Phillippines, you can be a boxer but do they think they have the mind set and the fuel to become a Manny Pacquiao,

We can somehow say that but we can't also deny Beterbiev's record. Also, is Joe Smith Jr. really up for the job to put an end to Beterbiev's KO streak and put a single loss on his record? That question alone will give us a hard time believing the latter could really give a defeat to Beterbiev. I mean Smith is good and according to his record, he's a decent one with a high KO percentage but Beterbiev is really different as only few selected boxers are born to have a heavy punch Beterbiev had.

But sometimes fate is never on our side and same as them, surely they haven't dreamt of being a boxing superstar but poverty makes the biggest push to make this kids fight to put food on the table. The same as Pacquiao, he grew up in extreme poverty and his mother wanted him to become a priest and not as a boxer but couldn't afford to place him in a seminary. The biggest push that led Pacquiao into a boxer was when his mother had a hard attack, he was left no choice but to have a fight locally and won $2 which he used to buy a medicine. Anyway, Pacquiao was named as Kid-Kulafu and was changed into Pac-Man when he had his 1st professional debut in the world of boxing.

If you guys are wondering how did I know these things, it's because Pacquiao had a movie depicting his early life before he became a star.

Canelo seriously wanted to fight this beast? Lol. No way Canelo could have handled Bivol not to talk of Beterviev. Which was to be expected. Smith lost even before the fight. Arthur did everything clearly, competently without haste on a good margin of safety. Smith was too slow and not technical. Smith was lucky because if the fight dragged on, then Smith would have been a cutlet and would have quit his career with injuries, in the end.

As I am making my bet for Artur Beterbiev I am very aware of his punching power and that this fight could go into a collision between a truck versus a man, that is how confident I am that Beterbiev will win but I never expect the fight to go down for just 2 rounds, I thought that Joe Smith Jr. will put up a good fight by lasting for 6 to 8 rounds but as I have said it was a one-sided fight, I thought that Smith's game plan was not to push for a brawl but he is so much close to Beterbiev to be punished like that, now I think the next fight better for Artur Baterbiev before he retires is Dmitry Bivol many would surely want to see that fight,


Well, some say there are boxers that accumulate ring rust, if they age so much, their sturdiness or durability speed and punching power will deteriorate, making them vulnerable to losing much, but there are other boxers that even though they have aged a lot they still look tough and very much can win even with younger opponents, well if this is what you are asking or

if you are asking about the age of certain boxers when they start at the early age the better, some with the younger years tend to practice in their younger years so they can accumulate that though in training yourself experience is always the number 1 source of strength,

As early as 10, kids already have vissions of what they wanted to be. But in a poor country down South many are trying to be trained to become a boxer for money. The WILL to survive will make boys fight with all they got to earn pesos.  

Manny Pacquaio the holder  8th world title from Philippines started very early. This is one of a kind boxer. If you read his wiki, you'll learn his family is very poor that he has to fight to put food on the table. For beginners, theyre just 4round fights until they become pro to 12 round fight.

I know that this questions I want to ask supposed to research of it but since this place is an easier place for me to get valuable answer to my question. So my question goes to this way what is this the strategist all the age someone is supposed to join a boxin group or boxing competition because I can see that this people that is playing boxing some of them that defeat the senior colleagues always be upgrade ones or our upbringing that they are vessels or blood are active for fight.

I never expected this to be one-sided, we are caught by surprise at how easy Beterbiev beat Joe Smith Jr., there was a huge discrepancy in power and skills it made me think if this is really a light heavyweight against a light heavyweight it looks like heavyweight against a middleweight, every punch that connected has a serious impact on Joe Smith Jr. and to think Joe Smith Jr. is a much younger fighter, this fight makes Beterbiev a very dangerous fighter 18-0- 18 is just an awesome record.

That's good if that is the plan because we will still see that fight. Bob sometimes does not want to risk his fighter if he thinks the opponent is also good to beat his fighter, so there's a possibility that the anticipated fight will not happen. Some boxers did not renew did contract with Top Rank and were able to get big fights, fights that they love to happen when they are still under his promotion.

For an individual get a successful result after placing a bet in boxing, you need to look beyond the Money line(the money involved if eventually you win). To make a careful bet on this you should look through a boxer's win records to see the manner that they often win with and compare it with their opponent's. Check to see if they most frequently win by knockout, technical knockout or if it is on point-based decisions.

That was right Donaire was shocked aswell, he really didn't know what hit him, the speed and power of Naoya Inoue were really the real deal, he was a different boxer now since their 1st fight and in my opinion, even John Riel Casimero will be having a hard time against Naoya Inoue, base on my observation regarding the boxer speed and power mostly even Butler will surely don't stand a chance against the Monster or should I say Kaiju of Japan,


It was a punishing moment for Joe Smith Jr. he really never expect what will happen to him if he came toe to toe with Beterbiev, and it was the wrong decision in my opinion to get really close to Artur and challenge him in a brawl, on the 1st to 2nd knockdown, Joe Smith Jr. is now feeling the side effect of those punches of Beterbiev, but he realizes that he needs to score more, but the 2nd round will be his demise and that Joe Smith Jr. Realizes that Beterbiev is a much advance boxer than he thinks he is,

So I just found out that Anthony Yarde is promoted by Frank Warren in the UK. It makes perfect sense now because Warren is actually Tyson Fury's lone promoter before they partnered with Bob Arum for Fury's US bouts. So this is a win-win situation for Bob Arum because if Yarde wins, he can still promote him in the US.

And the WBO has always been Top Rank's favorite sanctioning body in many years (e.g., Juanma, Mikey Garcia, Pacman, Loma, Bud, Valdez and Shakur). Poor Beterbiev, I hope he gets paid well for this. Maybe Warren can hire a referee that allows Yarde to have unlimited hugs every time Beterbiev goes near.