Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 224. (Read 31605 times)

Yeah it seems you are right he really needs to enjoy his retirement, I love to see Manny Pacquaio taking a title defense or a title match again but his body can not take it anymore, he is likely just for exhibition match fighter only, he can sure train a little and whatever happens inside the ring he will surely gain millions of money, and there are rich people who are willing to pay for this kind of stuff, and just like Floyd Mayweather who is just enjoying his fight and putting a great performance inside the ring, I really love his last fight against Don Moore,


Well, that is what I think about my observation of him, and his last fight with Ugas, I think it is not self belittle if he can not make another win for his boxing record because I think he doesn't need to prove himself any further he is proven enough on his prime, but right now is what I call dwindle state, and there is nothing to be ashamed about all boxers and fighters will surely get to this state and eventually retired,


Well, when you are a boxer you will surely have a boxer's instinct and will always keep on searching for that eagerness to step again inside you will be longing and missing that experience of the heart-pounding matches that you take, I think boxers do misses what they are doing on their prime, and I guess Exhibition matches is really good for them and lessen the risk with those exhibition matches,

I think the first scripted fight that we have witnessed is the Tyson vs Roy Jones? Everything was perfect and we have been fooled. I mean crypto bookies have it as Tyson as the favorite, and then we have referee and judges.

Unfortunately, the script has been build since the beginning that this fight will end in a draw. And there was a lot of uproar. Nevertheless if Manny will fight, hopefully we will not find this kind of script fights wherein there is no winner.

Just follow the script if there is and they will be safe.

I see exhibition fights are scripted fights, it's just a way to entertain fight but boxers already know that they have limitations and rules to follow, otherwise, it will be very risk for both boxers since it's not their profession anymore, hence, they are not training like they usually do.

Yep, even Ray Leonard had some public exhibitions after his detach retina operation. So it's in their DNA, nevertheless they should know when to pull the breaks otherwise it might endanger their lives for good. And this is we don't want to see happen to Manny in the future. Sure, he can take some exhibitions fight, but still at 40, he needs to be very careful as well. Probably just light touches from his opponents will be ok, but not the brutal punch to the head or something.

This is very common in boxing. It's in their blood. They grew up fighting since they were a kid, then in the amateurs until they turned into professionals. Boxing is their life. I believe more than half in the Hall of Fame made returns or continued to fight past their primes. From Muhammad Ali to Roy Jones Jr.

Although some continued fighting for monetary purposes. Many boxers aren't well educated or they simply do not have basic financial education and many of them went bankrupt. Mike Tyson for example.

I can only name a few that retired for good while they're still on top. Andre Ward is probably the only ATG that retired in its early 30s. Finito Lopez and Joe Calzaghe were in their mid-30s while Floyd Mayweather Jr, Lennox Lewis, and Vitali Klitschko extended their careers in their late 30s but they finally retired before losing to the younger contenders.

I agree,  but the way I observed it, some of the greats make one comeback and test themselves if they still have it. Muhammad Ali (RIP) for example, they say he should have retired but he keeps on fighting until he was knockout cold, and so on. We can speculate that there is some burning sensation on him that says one more fight champ. But the best there is right now is to test himself in an exhibition match, to entertain his fans. So we will see during press conference and hear from the man himself.

To fully enjoy his retirement, he should be out of the boxing world as he is there for almost the entirety of his life. Retiring should be involved with other activities or tasks that he didn't able to do when he is active in boxing.

But that's his decision and we are just here to give comments.

I hope his exhibition match will be fun and will fulfill what's the real purpose of doing it.

Basically, that's a good observation on him and I think many do think of the same as you on how it went with his last match.

And if he's ever going to have a match again, it should just be the match that he can really take. For me, it could be another title match or an exhibition, as in anything as long as he can take himself with.

A match that he really thinks that he can bring himself up again until his final word comes that he's good and ready to settle for real and no rumors or actual news to come out that he's out to fight.

Yeah, maybe that's the best reason why he is coming back in the sports. Thru exhibition fight with some South Korean youtuber and then probably get some good money too. I'm not seeing any competitive fights for him in the future, he is already in his 40's and maybe one risky fight might put a damage for him for good. So just take this opportunity, might be less money that a real boxing fight, but there is no risk in his health.

The disappointment of pacquaio failure in the presidential election of the philippines certainly allows him to return to the ring later, as someone who has had many titles and also a long boxing career of course pacquaio will not be able to easily get away from boxing gloves and his desire to fight, that's why I think that even though it will be an exhibition match that Pacquaio will play, we will surely see how fierce Pacquaio is in the ring like when he was young.
I think the fight against DK later will be an interesting fight even though the fight is only an exhibition and Pacquiao fans will certainly be satisfied with their idol's performance after a long absence.

He is probably enjoying his retirement, more exhibition fights gives him more money, and we cannot deny that exhibition fights are not risky compared to a professional fight, and since it's proven that exhibition fights could also bring millions of dollars, so Manny is just taking the opportunity again.

This goes to show that boxing is not only for men, but boxing for women is already established long ago, and even though it is not that much popular as men's boxing, pretty much every woman in here really kicks ass,

Canelo is surprisingly popular even though he lost to Bivol, and I am really aware that Canelo doesn't really stand a chance against Bivol, but still, Canelo Alvarez is crazily popular and rich,


I also think so, that long break that they have surely dwindle with their performance inside the ring, but if they can return that and feel the same vibe or be accustomed again inside the ring I think they can beat a near rank boxer, but yes a title belt match will be very questionable, but they can still try,


In my opinion, he can surely still fight even a retired boxer can still remember the thing he does during the fight, but this time with a dwindled speed, accuracy, and strength, during the Ugas fight Manny Pacquaio can really fight but his firepower is no more and Ugas is likely just ignoring Pacquaio punches like it is just nothing, and look at what happened to the eyes of Pacquiao after the fight with Ugas he can barely open it so he can not see a thing, this goes to show even his durability has dwindled aswell, so in my opinion, for me, Manny Pacquiao is now just for exhibition matches only,


For me, the level of Pacquiao right now is just for exhibition matches against retired Boxers, Retired MMA fighters in boxing matches, Youtuber that has trained in combat sports for a boxing challenge, or someone that has fame and wants to try Manny Pacquiao inside the ring, in my opinion after seeing him in his last fight as a professional boxer against Yordenis Ugas, I say to myself that this is the last for Manny Pacquiao, if he can not KO/TKO his opponent it is likely he is for retirement,

No hype for me, just wanted to see Broner losing this fight. I agree that the Maidana lost really put his career to a halt and yeah, every fans of the sports is very happy that time because Maidana put a beating on his loud mouth even becoming the meme up to this day.  And he is boxing for the money obviously, he has also a lot of litigation if I'm not mistaken, coming from his baby momma who he didn't give financial support and those jewelries he hasn't paid off.

It's always a relief seeing these brash fighters losing badly. Adrien Broner losing to Maidana was one of the best feelings I had as a hardcore fan of boxing. A bad beating has psychological effects and many fighters were not the same in their next fights. That is why many top fighters need tune-up/s, especially when coming from tough defeats in order to recondition themselves but many of them cannot return to their former selves. And AB is one of them.


I think Broner's career as a world-level fighter is done already. Including Figgy too. They're still in their early 30s but I just think the fire is not there anymore. They're only here for money but of course, they will still do their best to win.

AB wanted to become the next Mayweather but in reality, I felt like they were nearly the opposite. He is arrogant but somehow he was not cherry-picking during his prime years and I give him credit for that. Moving up 2 divisions to fight then-world champion Paulie Malignaggi. And despite barely winning against Malignaggi, he picked a very dangerous opponent in Maidana in his first welterweight world title defense. These career moves were not Mayweatherish. Adrien was also exciting and brave inside the ring. Guy got a big heart when he continued fighting despite receiving too many heavy blows from Maidana. But somehow the heavy beating affected him mentally. He was never the same again.

I can't find the betting odds. But I think this is a 50/50 fight knowing both are equally inactive. Oddsmakers are probably having a hard time assessing both fighters. Adrien got better skills but if cannot move like before, Omar will have the advantage since he is the natural brawler of the two.

With those news that say that he's still going to fight, I guess that's already the clue that we'll see him once again in the ring and maybe not just for this YouTuber but also for another one.

He's that type of guy that would say something but eventually, he'll take it back just like the retirement.

Well, I wish him the best and hopefully he really gets the deserving win before his true and genuine retirement.

LOL you got me there! I sure do hope that Omar's sister, Liliane, would attend the said press conference to make the event more hotter and interesting. Anyway, yes this will be a better fight and an entertaining one to see because of Broner's attitude and movement in the ring. I'm also looking forward to this match next month and not in less than 2 weeks.

Both fighters are in a desperate need to become relevant again, for AB who was a big deal while he was younger, it is another platform to prove that he still has some good few years ahead, while Figueroa will be looking to still prove a point that regardless of the mental, emotional and physical issues he has suffered so much in his career, that he still has it in him. Mentally both fighters are on the same level, owing that AB's last fight ended in a defeat to him likewise Figueroa. This fight is a matter of who wants it more.

I am looking forward to the fight as well, it will surely offer some entertainment and will not be one sided. However I predict AB to win this fight.

I also don't think Pacquiao has become better than he was a year ago, but he has become a year older for sure, and if you look at his last fight with Ugas, you can see how much he misses punches, so everything will depend on the opponent he chooses, if of course he decides to fight.

I am actually hyped for this- given the downfall of Broner in his career, this might actually be the redemption that he is looking for.

I mean, we all know that AB almost copied his style from Mayweather's technique and skill. His move sets are somehow similar but the execution and punching power is still lacking compared to FM. But to be honest, we cannot deny that AB is still gifted and skillful- it is just that his methods and training consistency fell short when his career boomed.

Nevertheless, I will definitely keep this fight on my radar and watch it. I'll give my honest feedback about the match and see if AB can revive his career and from his slump.

Oh yeah, I remember Figueroa's sister stealing the limelight during one of his fights. Others thought that it was Omar's gf, but it turns out to be his hot sister.

As for AB, yeah, even if he wins here, I guess his career is really over, he no longer generates the hype, About Billions? nah, ever since he lost against the hard hitting Maidana, it was over for him. Just fighting for scrap now, another of those story that didn't end very well for boxers because of their attitude.