Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 229. (Read 32069 times)

I think it is a good source of income for retired boxers. These exhibition matches, Manny took a lot of blows before and now he's in good shape, after all, it's been two years. I think he still misses the rings even if not much time has passed. Maybe he could do an exhibition match with a famous name like Conor like you said. He has a very good career and his fans are very happy with this exhibition match.

^^ I guess the exhibition match is now the in for those who have retired, boxers, MMA fighters and others sports. So why not Manny? He has all the rights to do that as well and then earn some money. And I think he can still draw crowds, although he may have take so much damage through out his career, but it seems he has rested already and the body has healed as well. And for sure, this is just the start for Manny, maybe we can see him in the right with much known fighters such as Conor.

Mayweather is always saying that Pacquiao is the one pushing the fight and he surely considers a higher cut, and just to fight Floyd Mayweather Pacquiao's team agreed to that terms, which I think is not bad at all, but when an Exhibition match would occur between these two I think I will be betting for Floyd Mayweather this time, even though I am supporting Filipino boxers and always bet even though I think that their opponent has a lot of advantage, this time that exhibition match is for the money and I will be betting smartly here if that exhibition match occurs,


I also agree with you it was a 2nd chance to get his belt back but he blew it all away, I think the WBO is been fair for both fighters, there is no exception even though he become the WBO champion, I think he needs to go back from scratch again, and he is now 32 years old he better do it fast, because in a couple of years he might slow down or his strength fades because of old age, we can never know if how many years he can fight on his prime,

But in a recent interview with Manny Pacquiao, they ask if what fight do Pacquiao wants to see Casimero VS Donaire or Casimero VS Inoue? and Pacquiao replied that he wants to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight and he can promote that,

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Just in I have seen the news that Manny Pacquiao is about to do an exhibition match against a youtube, it is not Logan Paul but the Korean Youtuber and Martial Artist DK Yoo, here is the VIDEO that they are signing contracts and announce the fight will be on July 20, I surely wish that this is the start of Manny Pacquiao would accept different exhibition matches, and that would be great, but against Floyd Mayweather, I will be betting on Floyd Mayweather,

If Casimero will stay in the bantamweight division, he can still fight Butler in case Butler will lose against Inoue. Inoue will become the undisputed champion and will probably move up to try to bring his power and speed to a higher division. Not much news for Casimero now, some fans maybe lose their interest on him since he is not a champion anymore.

Sounds like it seems easy for you to just say go on to the next weight. Casimero has a problem maintaining weight and you want him to move up lol.

There's a catchweight limit at each division and if you are referring to the literal current weight of Casimero today, that won't work as there's a weight range.

Casimero's weight is even far beyond the next weight class requirements. How can he even compete there? The wise thing to do is obviously stay where he is right now as that was his comfort zone. I'm sure his team will work on his weight problems and turn him into good shape again.

He should learn from this experience, he has a good opportunity to face Inoue if the Butler fight push through, but Inoue now wants to be an undisputed title holder, and Casimero is not on his radar now, he will have to wait for the winner of the Inoue -  Butler fights and promoters consider him to be the next challenger, Casimero has become nightmares for promoters he should have discipline and not too showy because it backfires, time to leave social media and return fighting inside the ring.

Yes, he is in his early 30's, fighters prime age, he could be destroying anyone in his path and could have set up mega fight with Inoue. But we can't bring back the clock, he will have to accept and then go back to zero, climb his way back in to super bantamweight, 122 pounds (I think he can still bring his power in this weight, but 126 pounds might be too much for him. He needed to get back at least one fight maybe late this year or early 2023, just to bring back his confidence.

It's really unfortunate because he is not that young already to start over at the upper divisions but I seriously think that he does not have much of a choice here but to start again and try what he could do in super-bantam or featherweight where his weight is not an issue. He was a given a but it's sad that he just wasted it because it is pretty clear that he is struggling on his weight, so best thing to do is move-up.
 

Yeah, but Casimero is already on his prime years and he just wanted a couple of fights already. So if he will start all over at the new weight class, it might be too late for him to get another belt. The perfect time is when he won it against Tete, then defended it against Duke Micah and unfortunately he can't do it against Butler. And there are no fights for him this year, so another chances squandered.

The first excuse was acceptable, the 2nd reason was not, he made an action that has violated the rules just to achieve the desired weight, it's just tantamount to cheating, and therefore it's just right that he get stripped of the title.

That's a big challenge for him, he has to start over again but it's never too late for him, he has the heart of a champion, it's just that he struggle to keep the weight in the division where he was a champion.

Thanks, at least someone has agree to me, 

Yeah, I think it's obvious that Casimero has been treated very well by the WBO, they given him the second chance, most boxer don't. Once they failed the weight or for some medical reasons, can't make it to the fight, there chances are gone.

So Casimero is on the crossroads, mis judgement on his end, so he has to pay for it. No more fight for the belt, he has to start all over. Or move to super-bantamweight so that he will not have the problem of not able to make the desired weight for bantam.

That's natural, we already know Mayweather and he surely wanted the bigger slice just like their fight last time when both of them are still fighting professionally, Pacquiao was only guaranteed 40% cut while Mayweather had the 60%. This time, I know that there will be a big money on the line, surely it's very rare these days to have an interesting fight in exhibition so I'm confident that people will surely pay for that seat.

I'm also seeing the same scenario and that is WBO won't give him that request he wants because they are done on giving that same chance and Casimero just wasted his opportunity. The WBO will just go silent for a few days so that they will look like they are reviewing his request but I highly think that it won't be approved too.

His only chance is to move in super-bantamweight or featherweight and try to be the champion in that division so that Inoue will be the one who will look for him when the latter decides to move up soon.

I only wish he would be given a chance by the WBO management but I think the WBO is focused now on Paul Butler after he defeated Jonas Sultan I think he is not Satisfied and disappointed in John Riel Casimero, after the incident on his weight loss procedure, and after elevating himself as the WBO reigning champion Butler is focused on the Naoya Inoue Fight, and with this, I think John Riel Casimero will likely need to wait, or crawl back up again, after that incident his reputation was then plummeted down,


I am really doubting Manny Pacquiao here, I think he is not in shape for a fight, if we look at Floyd Mayweather he is still active in the ring towards his exhibition matches, while Manny Pacquiao is busy with Politics, but lost for the Presidency, but for now, I am doubtful that Pacquiao can regain his old self and physique, but given a specific time maybe he can get back again but not as an official fight but for the exhibition fight only, but yeah Pacquiao is not busy anymore maybe he can focus on boxing again, but I really doubt it,


I think they are in a bloody conversation about what their going to do with Casimero, after that weight loss incident if they will be giving him a chance or not if Casimero could get a chance then the fight will commence, but if they won't let Casimero have his request then it is likely he will restart from scratch, I am disappointed on what Casimero is doing, I think his head is getting bigger because of the fame, I think he needs to humble himself first, I am a Filipino and a fan of Casimero but I don't want to tolerate something that is not right, so if they wouldn't give him a fight then he needs to start from zero again,

Maybe there are reasons that they will not grant him, not the first time that he was overweight in fight, second, he was given a second chance by the organization and yet Casimero take that for granted. WBO will look like a fool if they allow him again, just saying.

Just go on the next weight, no need for him to stay as he body can't squeeze to that limit and this might be one reason that he will lose in his next fight if he insist on the bantamweight. It might be dangerous for him if he go again.

If that is the case then the story seems to be too good to be true. The camp of Pacquiao is not confirming it and it was just Amir Khan who spill this news to the public.

We don't know if this is true or not or what motivated Khan to tell it to the public. Maybe to pressure Manny? Not sure. So I guess we can call that both of them are still officially retired, no boxing or exhibitions match but we really can't say this for certain. Manny might come out of his retirement and do some exhibition fight similar to Mayweather to keep the money flowing.

However, as per rumors, the offer was just being told to Amir Khan by Pacquiao's camp and not the other way around.

I think Amir Khan won't say it if it's not true. But maybe Khan just thinks that it will happen for good already even though the negotiations aren't started yet. He might just overwhelm so he headed straight to the media and told everything about the offer.

At that time, Pacquiao is on vacation after losing his Presidential bid in the Philippines that's why there was no official comment from him about the speculation of returning to the ring against Amir Khan, be it an exhibition match or a real match.

There is no news yet if WBO will ordered a fight between Butler or the former champion Casimero. I haven't follow Casimero's YT, usually he posted some updates there, but who knows, maybe he is working with his promotional  company to get a crack at Butler first and then if he wins then fight Inoue next year. He really made some bad moves in his career, and hopefully he learn from it and never have to do that again.

If there's a big money on the line and they try to cooperate again with Mayweather. I guess this is possible.

It's like the actual retiring match for both of them and sums of money is on the pot. I think for sure both of them will have a bite on it, most likely Pacquiao is an automatic yes on it.

But for Mayweather, there could be more conditions and more portions of the pot will go for him.

I think that's really far from happening and even if Amir Khan is overrated, Manny Pacquiao and his camp knows what would be the best for them. I bet they will only accept fights that will be more interesting and not a fight with just pure monkey business because that is against Pacquiao's stand in life.

It's more much ideal if it's Pacquiao and Mayweather even if I do not view the latter as one of the boxing legends but these two deserves a 2nd fight as they both didn't had the chance to have a rematch.