Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 225. (Read 32561 times)

Well there is no doubt that it is evident that the business model is above the sport and this is somewhat painful in my opinion, because both should know that the fans are the ones who make all the money possible, and allow the big punters or the whales have freedom on this, but it is completely necessary, at least I think, that this fight can take place this year, the fact that he has to lose weight I do not see as difficult for the boxer, it is only enough that he dedicates himself to do aerobic exercises and you will have results quickly, this is something that every boxer should do not only for the weight but to have enough resistance.

I hope that the sponsors manage to do something positive and the fight takes place, and that this time the sport is the one that stands out.

Who would want to see a rigged fight, yeah? I hope that this will be the kind of fight that Teo Lopez will receive a warm welcome in the super lightweight where he will be forced to bring his best rather than just looking at this fight as a tune-up for him. I'd say he wouldn't get far if he thinks like that because he will find himself in the same situation where he lost against Kambosos but this time against another opponent in this division.

I think that's what his target, to be come a 5x division champion and only few exceptional boxers have accomplished that. But then again, just the question on how he can make the limit.


122 is pretty much stack up, and he might not live into this division today.

Maybe he is going after the money, or more on his legacy, or he simply can't quit because he still feels he can win another championship belt. He can also start his own gym and yes, for sure he could be a good trainer. We have seen ex boxer becoming trainers.

Nonito continuing his career? is it in the same division? I mean, he cannot beat the champion, so why would he still stay? Maybe he still looking for some extra money before finally deciding to retire. Or maybe before he retires he could fight Casimero, I think that would be a great fight.

Nonito's future plan or Inoue? As far as Nonito, well we have seen the latest update, he wants to continue with his career.

For Inoue, we are hearing that he might go for the unification fight with Paul Butler. It will be huge if the fight is going to happen in UK. But not sure if Inoue will be comfortable, it might be better if the fight is in the US. So that his fans are going to see him and of course makes a name for himself in the US household. Arum knows how to hype him in the States.

I agree that he's still the Nonito that we've used to watch but with his fight with Inoue, it is the reality that Inoue is better than him in many aspects which includes the speed.

Where can we read his future plans?

Many agrees that it's time for him to retire and let the younger generation and aspiring ones to excel with his help as a trainor.

No mate. Nonito Donaire is still quick and fast even at his age but it's just that Naoya Inoue is just quicker and too much for him. Believe me, Donaire can still KO and defeat other boxers in the bantamweight division. Inoue is just on another level and he is a monster in that division.

But we can't hide the fact that it might be too late to regain his position on bantamweight where his plan is to make some winnings first on a much lower level division. Even if he will be successful in the lower division, he might enter the bantamweight division obviously at a much older age.

And for let's say he managed to defeat those other bantamweights once he stepped up at that old age, I'm not sure if he can still repeat the achievement he done before fighting Inoue which is the oldest fighter to achieve a world title.

Maybe just making money as he feels he can still fight. Not a wrong move though before hanging his gloves.

They really underestimated Pedro Campa in my opinion and the guy is no pushover, Teofimo Lopez should not think that this is a fight he can win easily because in my thoughts I think it is not, moreover Pedro Campa pretty much has the experience in fighting on that division so Teofimo Lopez better not think that this is just a walk in the park kind of fight,

Well, if this is a rigged fight then I think I will be eluding in betting for it, and right now if we look at the stake odds it is not very profitable to bet for Teofimo Lopez but for Pedro Campa, it is really tempting to risk because the odds on stake are 1.04 for Lopez while 10.00 for Campa


Well, it can really go the other way around but it will be on the management decision if they will continue a fight like that, but we are just wishful thinking for a certain fight like that to happen, and because we are just speculating, all we can do right now is just wait and hope, because I also want a Naoya Inoue VS Stephen Fulton if it's possible,


That is good news if he's not planning on retiring yet, but against a Naoya Inoue that is now in his prime, we can say that Nonito Donaire is already depleting, because of his age, and he can not compete anymore with higher boxers in my opinion, but maybe we can be surprised with his return to the 118 once again, but who know all we can do is anticipate and wait,

I think he still has the speed and power in the 115 lbs if ever he moves, just a question on how "safe" it will be for a fighter of his age to simply drop that 3 lbs off. If he can get a decent team, in his corner to manage everything, from the food intake maybe he can still make 115 lbs. But it will be a big risk for him taking another legend in Roman because Chocolatito has power and same with Ioka. It could be a brutal fight, specially Chocolatito he has been in wars with Estrada and know how to fight thru 12 extremely tiring rounds. How about Nonito? we haven't seen fights of his going to the distance. So it's going to be a question on stamina for him at super flyweight.

maybe, he still feels that he has still some juice on this sports. so let him be, he will be the one who will retire from this sports if he knows, he's done with it. some boxers really do continue to fight not because of the money but because of the passion they have for this sports, and it hurts them thinking that they will retire and leave the sports that they live and breathe.

He already slowed down, his reactions to his fights against Inoue have shown it.  He may have a power advantage if he goes down in weight division but the question is, Is he fast enough to connect them?  I really admire Donaire but I have seen he is past his prime and most of his opponent is currently in their prime.  Besides, wouldn't it put a strain on his body if he will lose weight past his regular weight limit?

Nonito Donaire is undoubtedly a good boxer who can still give a hard time to any boxer he would face in his weight categories even if he's moving down but I can say that he is fighting now out of his ego because he cannot really retire with a defeat in his pro-boxing record. I'd say that he will likely retire 1-2 years from now with a belt.

We cannot say for sure, maybe he's right too because he still had that same confidence that he can still win fights despite his age now. We saw in his latest performance that he wasn't the flash we knew anymore and the speed and power difference between him and Inoue becomes wider. Maybe he can regain some losses in the super flyweight and then retire after a win, let's see.

Yes, I got your point and concern about his age. I mean, the timeframe is critical to what he likes to achieve now that he's 40 years old now.

He mentioned that he is eyes for some Super Flyweight Division matches before going back to Bantamweight to attempt on unifying some titles. He should average 2-3 fights per year with no serious injuries in every of his fight to catch up while his body is still cooperating.

I'm just worried that once he makes an attempt to snatch a title at Bantamweight, roughly he's about 42 years old that time. He will surely show an obvious sign of slowing down and weaknesses at that age.

I don't even know how Donaire can make it into the superfly limit. Seems impossible, but if he can make it then there's also the chance that he becomes champion again. He is old but his power is always his equalizer in the lower divisions. And if he becomes a champion at superfly, that would make him a 5 division champion which is very rare in boxing.

122 can take Donaire's power, this is the division where his prime started to score decisions rather than knockouts. WBA and IBF champion Akhmadaliev will KO Donaire. And WBO and WBC champion Stephen Fulton will school Donaire in 12 rounds.

I hope he retires for good. Maybe he should just start coaching if he still wants to continue his career in boxing. 

I agree, again and again, top and great boxers still thinks that they still have it and is going to continue with their careers despite the obvious signs that they are way past their primes already and it the end, them keep fighting might bring more harm that good to them. Its the responslity of his father and Rachel (Nonito's wife and manager), to tell him right into his face that he should consider hanging up his gloves for real. His legacy has been cemented already, there is none to prove if he fight the 2 boxers that he mentioned he love to face.

He thinks he still has it, for a great boxer the mind is the last to admit it, but he will soon realize that the body cannot keep up, I just hope it's not too late his body is aging, it's not the same body he has 15 years ago he may have a good chance against Ioka or Chocolatito but time is running out for him, if he really loves boxy he can train young people or do an exhibition fight, the best time to do it is now, let's see in his next fight if this is his last fight or just want to add more title for his legacy. 

Of course everyone fights for the money, but I thought that he already has a lot because I read reports that him and his wife are very good at taking care of their money and has invested it.

Anyhow, I do agree that it's only up to Nonito to make the final decision about his career, maybe he still has that itch and that he still wanted to test himself against the best like Roman Gonzalez and the Japanese Ioka and willing to go down to their weight classes.

Maybe this is not about records or for a crown since most provably he want to fight for money, He age already and for provably grab the opportunity to earn million of dollars while he can. But if we really look at his age he really need to retire healthy because if he receive a bad hit which can cause a heavy damage on his body for sure he cannot enjoy the money he earn on all of his fight and he will be forgotten in the scene.

As much as we love Donaire as he is a sure fire boxing hall of famer, I think moving down to 115 lbs might is seemingly improbable. OF course we can't just say that the should be retiring after that huge knock out lost to Inoue, only him and Rachel could decide for that. However, moving down might not be a good idea, not sure why, but why not going up to 122 lbs?

Anyhow, if this fight happen, I will have him winning by knock out against Ioka, but will be a close one against Chocolatito.