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Quote from: Japinat on December 14, 2023, 08:27:37 AM

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One year is too long to look for a potential opponent. Maybe right now they are already looking at the list as to who is the best opponent for him. There are some good names in this division and then perhaps some that he can fight as a stepping stone. It's up to MP on how they are going to guide Mark career in this division, as for sure they want him to be a champion, but it could take careful matchmaking.

Currently, Mark Magsayo seems to be the primary boxer under MP, providing them with the opportunity to secure him good fights.

I don't quite comprehend why Casimero left MP. From my perspective, he was getting quality fights under MP, but after leaving, he seemed to struggle in securing high-caliber opponents, resulting in a drop in his ranking.

Magsayo appears to have a promising future with MP, as long as he continues to develop himself, he'll be able to come back as a champion.

Having that kind of exposure will really help him to move forward. Having him as the face of MP's promotions might lead him to negotiations with ranking fighters, as we know what happened this year when legends meet each other, with a kind of opportunity. If connections can be established and with the right number of offers, they can quickly give time to sit and discuss the possibilities.

As for now, let us give Magsayo that earned time to celebrate after winning his debut and wait for what will be the next scheduled fight for him.

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Quote from: Jating on December 14, 2023, 08:07:18 AM

One year is too long to look for a potential opponent. Maybe right now they are already looking at the list as to who is the best opponent for him. There are some good names in this division and then perhaps some that he can fight as a stepping stone. It's up to MP on how they are going to guide Mark career in this division, as for sure they want him to be a champion, but it could take careful matchmaking.

Currently, Mark Magsayo seems to be the primary boxer under MP, providing them with the opportunity to secure him good fights.

I don't quite comprehend why Casimero left MP. From my perspective, he was getting quality fights under MP, but after leaving, he seemed to struggle in securing high-caliber opponents, resulting in a drop in his ranking.

Magsayo appears to have a promising future with MP, as long as he continues to develop himself, he'll be able to come back as a champion.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 14, 2023, 05:41:57 AM

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The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

He won unforgettably and he finished his opponent with a deadly move that ended the fight. Looks like he is ready for another high-level opponent that could test his pro boxing skills or maybe a chance for a championship bout. Nevertheless, his next opponent is surely not gonna rush to fight him without any proper training. That knockout is a message for his next opponent that they are in need of new skills to counter that technique in order to win against Magsayo.

That was definitely a huge knockout. His opponent absolutely went night night. And you are absolutely right about it being a very deadly move.

Yes, it was really night night for Avelar, it's even worthy for a ko of the year. But it's bad to see a boxer going out in the ring in a stretcher.

Quote from: kro55 on December 14, 2023, 05:41:57 AM

Anyway, if we talk about his next fight, I think it is definitely going to be someone who is of the top level. And it is also true that he is not going to be fighting Mark on short notice or something like that. I think it is at least going to be one year after the fight gets announced. Or the contract is signed or whatever they do it is.

One year is too long to look for a potential opponent. Maybe right now they are already looking at the list as to who is the best opponent for him. There are some good names in this division and then perhaps some that he can fight as a stepping stone. It's up to MP on how they are going to guide Mark career in this division, as for sure they want him to be a champion, but it could take careful matchmaking.

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Quote from: yazher on December 13, 2023, 10:16:10 AM

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The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

He won unforgettably and he finished his opponent with a deadly move that ended the fight. Looks like he is ready for another high-level opponent that could test his pro boxing skills or maybe a chance for a championship bout. Nevertheless, his next opponent is surely not gonna rush to fight him without any proper training. That knockout is a message for his next opponent that they are in need of new skills to counter that technique in order to win against Magsayo.

That was definitely a huge knockout. His opponent absolutely went night night. And you are absolutely right about it being a very deadly move.

Anyway, if we talk about his next fight, I think it is definitely going to be someone who is of the top level. And it is also true that he is not going to be fighting Mark on short notice or something like that. I think it is at least going to be one year after the fight gets announced. Or the contract is signed or whatever they do it is.

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Quote from: yazher on December 13, 2023, 10:16:10 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 12, 2023, 07:32:29 AM

The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

He won unforgettably and he finished his opponent with a deadly move that ended the fight. Looks like he is ready for another high-level opponent that could test his pro boxing skills or maybe a chance for a championship bout. Nevertheless, his next opponent is surely not gonna rush to fight him without any proper training. That knockout is a message for his next opponent that they are in need of new skills to counter that technique in order to win against Magsayo.

Knocking out Aguilar cold with a single left hook surely made noise in the division. As indicated by the article from the Ring, Magsayo felt relaxed, comfortable, and stronger in this new division.

Pacquiao fought his last battles with PBC and so his promotion is also getting matches and the exposure in USA. MP Promotions is a major factor in the career of Magsayo. They even have plans set already for Magsayo to return in March or April and they are looking for an eliminator. In any case, I am not so sure that the boxing alphabets agreeing on an eliminator for Magsayo.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 13, 2023, 06:42:13 AM

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O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

This is going to be a good match, either way I will go with Foster winning this fight. Not sure about Robson, he has so many chance to win the belt but he always feel short. Yeah, he did great against Navarette, but the volume punching of Navarette is too much that's why the judges give him the win.

Cool! Foster is becoming a very active champion and I like it. He might fight 3 to 4 times next year if he remains healthy and of course, he needs to retain the belt to get more attractive fights.

This is an intriguing fight for me. Foster has the skills but he struggled in his last fight before he managed to close it in the last round. I only watched one fight of Nova in the past. That was when he got knocked out by now-former champion Robeisy Ramirez at 126. If Nova is a heavy underdog in this fight then I might take a bet. Nova is with Top Rank and the judges might favor him when the rounds are close.

It's probably because he went to the challenger backyard in Mexico? Not a brave thing to do as you are the champion, but he take that risk and emerge as the winner. It was very difficult fight for him, but he proved himself as a great champion. I also have my doubts in him, but when he beat Rey Vargas and won the belt, I said that there is something special about this boxer.

But let's see, I haven't look at the odds yet, but I do believed that Foster will be a huge favorite going into this fight.

Nova lost to Robeisy Ramirez via knockout as you have said, and this could be a factor that the oddmakers are going to look and put him as the underdog.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 12, 2023, 07:32:29 AM

The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

He won unforgettably and he finished his opponent with a deadly move that ended the fight. Looks like he is ready for another high-level opponent that could test his pro boxing skills or maybe a chance for a championship bout. Nevertheless, his next opponent is surely not gonna rush to fight him without any proper training. That knockout is a message for his next opponent that they are in need of new skills to counter that technique in order to win against Magsayo.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 13, 2023, 02:53:21 AM

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O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

This is going to be a good match, either way I will go with Foster winning this fight. Not sure about Robson, he has so many chance to win the belt but he always feel short. Yeah, he did great against Navarette, but the volume punching of Navarette is too much that's why the judges give him the win.

Cool! Foster is becoming a very active champion and I like it. He might fight 3 to 4 times next year if he remains healthy and of course, he needs to retain the belt to get more attractive fights.

This is an intriguing fight for me. Foster has the skills but he struggled in his last fight before he managed to close it in the last round. I only watched one fight of Nova in the past. That was when he got knocked out by now-former champion Robeisy Ramirez at 126. If Nova is a heavy underdog in this fight then I might take a bet. Nova is with Top Rank and the judges might favor him when the rounds are close.

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Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

Indeed, there are more deserving fighters who are in-line to have that shot and challenge the champs, unless Magsayo's camp have connections to sell his name from both the promoters and the opposing camp, though that's still far from happening. He needed to fight fighters at the same level and try to create his name from this division.

It's a long journey for him after deciding to move up. This previous win might give him credit, but not that much to bring the interest of both fans and promoters.

Speaking of that brutal knockout, and as we have seen, Avelar was brought out thru a stretcher and it's not a good scene for us boxing fans.

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Likewise, with his brutal shots and accuracy, he knocked out Avelar in only the third round of their fight, scheduled for eight rounds. However, while Mark offered a huge KO for the spectators to cherish, the injured Avelar left the ring on a stretcher, barely moving his body.

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So let's join Magsayo in praying that Avelar will be fine and ok after Mark knock him out. And hope that he will recover and be as strong and bounce back.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 12, 2023, 03:43:52 PM

Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

Indeed, there are more deserving fighters who are in-line to have that shot and challenge the champs, unless Magsayo's camp have connections to sell his name from both the promoters and the opposing camp, though that's still far from happening. He needed to fight fighters at the same level and try to create his name from this division.

It's a long journey for him after deciding to move up. This previous win might give him credit, but not that much to bring the interest of both fans and promoters.

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Quote from: Getmon on December 13, 2023, 12:45:00 AM

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Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

That is great for him. I look at the other three belts and Magsayo is positioned as number 13 by the WBO for the November ratings. I am almost certain Magsayo will enter the WBO top 10 once the evaluations for the December ratings are done. Moreover, who knows if the WBA and IBF will likewise include Magsayo for their December ratings. If he keeps on winning he will get a championship match soon.

In WBC he is already rank number 7. And yeah, most likely if he keeps on winning his rank will go up and could break top 10 to top 5. But Sean Gibbons doesn't need to rush Magsayo in this division. I do agree that they should pick another tune up fight for him before going into the likes of Robson or Navarette.

Quote from: Getmon on December 13, 2023, 12:45:00 AM

O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

This is going to be a good match, either way I will go with Foster winning this fight. Not sure about Robson, he has so many chance to win the belt but he always feel short. Yeah, he did great against Navarette, but the volume punching of Navarette is too much that's why the judges give him the win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 12, 2023, 06:41:39 AM

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

That is great for him. I look at the other three belts and Magsayo is positioned as number 13 by the WBO for the November ratings. I am almost certain Magsayo will enter the WBO top 10 once the evaluations for the December ratings are done. Moreover, who knows if the WBA and IBF will likewise include Magsayo for their December ratings. If he keeps on winning he will get a championship match soon.

O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

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^^ Yes, they don't need to rush Magsayo, maybe he still have that sting in his mind about losing his belt and failed to regain it. So for now it like a mental game for him and his team to just get someone in their next fight that he can also beat convincingly.

It could be outside of the top 10 rankings again and then slowly making his name up as he is used to do this before. We never heard him before until he got the championship and then defend it several times, one of the best Filipino champ before.

And with that, in order to regain his status, MP should consider a slow and match making for triple M.

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But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

^ Personally, I think he should first target the relatively lesser-known names. Because in those fights, he will have a better chance to win. And that is going to give him the confidence to fight the more popular ones. And I believe that is going to be a wise decision. Because even though he has gone into the top 10 scenes right now, it is going to be hard for him to actually fight a very well-known fighter and actually win. He should not be emotional and think that he can take on anyone. He should think about this more strategically. That is going to give him a better chance to actually win.

Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

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