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Seems like a very early stoppage in my opinion and Fredrick Lawson looks really upset with what has happened but clearly the Referee just wants to protect Fredrick Lawson for sure as Ortiz Jr. is not stopping punching sure he thought that Fredrick Lawson can not fight no more, as the Referee already think that it is the end for him for me judging what I had saw it is an early stoppage for sure,

Shocked at what happened to the Ohara Davies VS Ismael Barroso fight I thought that Davies would win yeah it was the 44 years that won this and in this fight, Ohara Davies looked slower and  he looked like he was much older than Barroso in this fight, because on what he looks and how he moves,


I really wish we could get what we want, and for sure if the promoters would realize that we want a fight like that to happen all promoters would want is the money they can get because many want that fight to happen as for sure Casimero VS Inoue is a long-awaited fight that many want maybe we can get it this year, (wishful thinking) I maybe wrong but nothing is impossible for sure,

Yeah, people think that he's such an arrogant guy but they don't know that it could just be his appearance on his stance and videos to make people more angry at him and for him to chase the clout. I also seen people say that he can beat Inoue.

But just as the other fighters that have fought Inoue, good luck to him and prove it on the ring.

We've seen bunch of fighters that were good at barking but I understand why they've done that, so that there will be more fans that shall watch their fight and more tickets sold.

On this level of Inoue, it's just hard to think on how he can be beaten honestly.

Here is the video of the Ortiz vs Lawson,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaaSIvClFWc

I don't know, but it seems that Tony Weeks has stop this fight early? What are your thoughts?

Obviously, Ortiz has just started to get hot as he was out for the last 17 months and maybe getting a feel of it again. But Weeks for me stop it prematurely, Lawson is not hurt maybe he is but his legs is still there.

As fans we can also push this fight as much as we want, still up to the promoters to sit down and talk and if this fight make sense specially if there is huge money in the table for everyone and they are satisfied, then it can be made.

Nevertheless, as I have said, Neri will get the first dibs, or we might see Casimero going against rank fighters first because he will have his chance against Inoue. So there's still opportunity for us fans to see this fight, if not this year, then we will have to wait.

We can't really say if this is one sided though, Ortiz has been out in the ring for years if I'm not mistaken. So there could be ring rust early and we don't know if he can overcome it. Remember that he also has career life threatening health issues, so mentally he could be affected for all we all.

The name of Davies keeps popping up in the 140 lbs, and I as I have said, we need to see him or at least he US fans if he is really that good or only hype as he mostly fight in British soil. So if he win this impressively, maybe he will be the mandatory for Rolly Romero.

Edit: So much for this, Ortiz beat and ended his 17 month layoff with a 1st round victory over Fredrick Lawson. Davies hype is over as he was knockout as well in the 1st round by Barroso. So it might be a rematch between Barroso and Romero.

It is really a typical John Riel Casimero he is always like that he surely was, he has that angst in him that many really like and some dislike, but there are many who say that he can defeat Naoya Inoue they can feel that John Riel Casimero is the only boxer that can beat him, for sure those talks that they have is to hype the fight and for this one Casimero is doing a great thing in hyping the fight for sure many likes this fight to happen,


Let's just wait if Casimero is just another bark-and-no-bite fighter he is a unique fighter for sure I also like his fight IQ for sure John Riel Casimero had that, but in terms of speed and power also has that but I think Inoue is on the Advantage with the raw power and also has the punching speed to accumulate that output, but maybe against Marlon Tapales they will device a game plan for his technique and style,

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I have seen an event today, I think this is today and it is from Faridabad, India if you look at the fighters you will notice something odd, it looks like a fight between a guy and a girl but if you look closely I think it is a female that underwent a hormone change, but maybe that is just her appearance so let's not be quick to judge, (Although that is what I am doing right now) and because I can not find any other record if she doesn't use hormones I couldn't be so sure,

Without a doubt that there is a lot of money to be generated from this match. Coming from Casimero fans and as well as the fans of Inoue, there's so much viewers and fans all over the world for this two.

And knowing that Inoue is the monster and is now a pound for pound king. There will be a lot of opportunity for him and money shall flow together on his career.

The only one thing that everyone is waiting for if someone is going to knock and win against him. Or even not a KO as unanimous decision will do as well to prove if he's unbeatable.

I think this is really a one-sided fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. is younger than Fredrick Lawson so he is still a progressing fighter with his technique and skills for sure Vergil Ortiz Jr. may have a much chance of winning this fight, while Fredrick Lawson doesn't have a great record but for sure Ortiz doesn't want to underestimate Fredrick Lawson as he still has the punching power needed to takedown Ortiz Jr.


If Ohara Davies wins this Rolly Rolando Romero will have a difficult time getting his belt against Ohara Davies as his opponent Ismael Barroso for sure is a fighting time bomb, Ismael Barroso needs to retire but he has the heart of a warrior for sure he keeps on fighting despite his age and he isn't moving the same and faster anymore, for me this fight is really one-sided and Ohara Davies has a huge chance in winning this fight,


That is why many are pushing this fight and mostly the promoters are reassuring that this fight will take fruition, for sure John Riel Casimero is really excited he really wants to fight Naoya Inoue for sure, well, even though Casimero doesn't do much against Naoya Inoue's training partner for sure what a boxer know that he can really defeat Inoue then in his mind he really can defeat him, for sure Casimero is really confident that he will win this, and for sure he got a solid trust in him, so why not make this fight happen,

And it's all promotion for Casimero to call Inoue, and I think we will not be tired of at least waiting for this fight to happen. Or at least at some point in the future, when Casimero is still at least in his peak, this fight should be made. For sure there will be enough money to generate here specially if the fight is going to be in the US.

Casimero though is not getting any younger, he is in his mid 30's if I'm not mistaken and maybe just one fight we might see him on a decline. But Inoue has other targets, Neri first before Casimero and others can get their chances against the Monster this year.

That's the typical Casimero that everyone knows. He don't mind about the split as long as he gets the match that he likes and able to prove himself that stronger than the other. His angst and stance in beating Inoue is always voiced out by him.

And of course, he's the first one to beat Inoue but I don't think that it is going to be an easy task for him. Inoue had beaten the good other fellow boxers of Casimero like Donaire and the recent one, Tapales.

So, it's like he's carrying a huge burden on his shoulder that he shouldn't disappoint.

He as touted to be really big, Ortiz name has been when he has a 147 lbs, but it seems that he has move on to super welterweight already as he might have issues making the welterweight. I do agree that he has to go to a lot as a boxer, it's probably his luck or something that he isn't making a progress yet and due to injuries he suffered.


Time for Davies to get his name in the discussion for the 140 lbs and US fans to see how good this British boxer is. Yeah, it seems that Romero is still injured, but nevertheless, he can't avoid the winner of this fight for his belt. And for me, Romero is the weakest amongst the 140 lbs champion, so he has to prove us that he is for real and that his belt is not just gifted to him.

Oh! there is a thread in the forum but that is just for the Artur Beterbiev VS Callum Smith fight and we could surely discuss some of the fights in that event sure this is the whole event I am posting here anyway already edited my post and I included robelneo's thread in my post and for sure people in this thread will also see it, anyway that fight is something to look forward to next week will be a great week as we are witnessing the power of Artur Beterbiev once more, and many fans would love to see Artur Beterbiev VS Dmitry Bivol fight instead but because of conflict it will not happen,


Here is the full card in Tapology, https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/106875-ortiz-vs-lawson

I haven't seen this fight if you didn't post it here, but for sure this fight is something like Vergil Ortiz Jr. is still undefeated against Fredrick Lawson which is not that kind of interesting because for sure Fredrick Lawson is a picked fight for Ortiz Jr. right now the younger Ortiz needs to increase his confidence for sure he is 25 years old while Lawson is already at his 34 years, for sure a younger Vergil Ortiz Jr. can win this while next fight  Ohara Davies looks buff for his opponent as he just has 2 losses and still in his 31st of age while Ismael Barroso is at 40 years and his fight against Rolly or Rolando Romero is a picked one for sure but Barroso is really wanting to fight, for sure Ismael Barroso is the El Cucui of boxing for the UFC he is the Tony Ferguson in boxing

Pacman is a great fighter yes!  And in addition he tricked his opponent into a catch weight that makes his advantage even more. Imagine fighting a dehydrated heavier opponent.  .  Well at least that is one of the issue I read about the reason why some of the boxing fans does not consider Manny's win as legit since he get the title fighting at a lower weight limit.


It does make sense, in order to attract people in the place where venue is located, they need to choose the native of that country after all boxing event needs to profit.

So I guess Casimero need to wait in line before he is given the chance. (or probably might not happen at all)

Oh yeah? John Riel Casimero's manager was Japanese and he was Masayuki Ito, a former world champion and Treasure promotion big boss, that is why the camp of Naoya Inoue was really hesitant in accepting the fight against Casimero I think they are asking why Masayuki Ito wants to promote John Riel Casimero I think they are baffled by it but because Treasure big boss wants a fight to happen for sure it will happen well, thanks for sharing this I didn't realize that the current manager of Casimero is Masayuki Ito, for sure this fight will continue if Ito wants it to happen,

I am currently interested in these two fights and nothing more, these two fights right now are a banger to behold and Artur Beterbiev has a canceled fight against Callum Smith, on August 19, 2023, but because Beterbiev had a Jaw Bone Infection the fight was better to be canceled as the fight was rescheduled as Artur Beterbiev is still undefeated his opponent Callum Smith had 1 lost so this is an interesting fight for sure as it was Canelo Alvarez that have given him that lost record, but for sure Callum Smith is much more younger than Beterbiev but Artur has the significant power to his punches as all of his fights ended in a KO/TKO, Corner stoppage and a solid TKO

While Jason Moloney has a twin brother who is also a boxer and he is Andrew Moloney, Jason Moloney is more popular than his twin brother right now Jason has 2 losses and that was from Emmanuel Rodriguez with a decision lost and against Naoya Inoue with a TKO in round 7 with an overhand right,

This week we have an incredible boxing show. Featured by the return of Vergil Ortiz Jr., once a standout projected to become the next great champion. Fans are waiting for this return to answer whether he is the same boxer as before following the frustrations that occurred in his life.



In other matches, Ohara Davies will show his talent in the USA versus Ismael Barroso. The two boxers have the right to confront the WBA champion Rolly Romero however because of an injury, the victor of this match will acquire the mandatory status.

Arnold Barboza will make his first match under his new promoter. Golden Boy Promotions is making progress having removed Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez from Top Rank and bringing them in. Devin Haney also refused a big offer from Top Rank last year and left. Golden Boy Promotions now has three elite boxers in the super lightweight class together with Ryan Garcia.



Information from https://box.live/fights/ortiz-jr-vs-lawson/

^^ It's Arthur Beterbiev.

And we have a separate thread about it, Beterbiev Vs Smith January 13 SATURDAY IBF / WBC / WBO LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT Title. But in the undercard, I'm only familiar with Jason Moloney and his opponent Saul Sanchez has a decent record of 20-2 as per https://boxrec.com/cn/proboxer/746614. So this is going to be a good fight as Moloney is on a winning streak and going to defend the WBO belt he won against Astrolabio

We have a high-profile boxing fight next week and here is the event for sure Artur Baterdiev is a strong boxer,

Beterbiev vs. Smith

DATE: Saturday 01/13/2024
TIME: 09:00 PM ET
PROMOTION: Top Rank
VENUE: Videotron Centre
LOCATION: Quebec City, Quebec



MAIN EVENT
Artur Beterbiev VS Callum Smith

MAIN CARD
Christian Mbilli VS Rohan Murdock
Jason Moloney VS Saul Sanchez
Imam Khataev VS Rodolfo Gomez Jr
Leila Beaudoin VS Elizabeth Chavez
Christopher Guerrero VS Sergio Garcia
Mehmet Unal VS Dragan Lepei
Moreno Fendero VS Victor Hugo Florea

The Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/104337-beterbiev-vs-smith
robelneo Thread in the Forum: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beterbiev-vs-smith-january-13-saturday-ibf-wbc-wbo-light-heavyweight-title-5454259

They can still do that, we all know how corrupt boxing organizations is, we've seen mandatory getting pass by other fighters because of the money that this body are going to make to make their champion fight another guy in their ranking.

So there is a possibility and we could have seen this in the past already.

And we might also bank on Inoue's manager as a Japanese that can easily make this negotiations easy and of course, if the money is right. We will just have to wait as there could be twist and turns, just saying.

I support John Riel Casimero but against Naoya Inoue, he will end up just like Marlon Tapales, we can not take away from John Riel Casimero that his fight IQ, although Naoya Inoue also has his fight IQ, was shattered when he fights Nonito Donaire their 1st fight he didn't imagine that Donaire could withstand his punches and that liver shots that are why he only got 3 Decision win because he got high Knockout power, so for sure Naoya Inoue would win this but he can not underestimate Casimero,


For sure they can choose what to do, and who is Inoue's next opponent, but for sure if there is a challenge for Naoya Inoue and there is big cash involved Naoya and his team can surely choose what to pick because Casimero is just there and poking the Undisputed and saying that he is a Japanese turtle (meaning keeps on picking a fight) it is still not clear if Casimero can defeat Inoue for sure,

Indeed, there's no problem even he will secure smaller percentage of total share as long as he will get his chance to fight Inoue and show to the world that he really have that fighting capabilities to beat the monster, that's everything as if he achieved that goal his value will surely increase, that's Inoue and his name is currently hot right? beating someone like him would bring you on top and for sure pomoters will offer huge amount of money on your next fight.

The pressure is on Inoue, he got lot of things to lose in case Casimero manage to bring him down, let see if there's pressure to push this possibility and wait if Inoue's camp will agree.