Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 52. (Read 31707 times)

Canelo will not win if it fight is on the 175 pound division, at least for and most of the users here that is why they are giving this bait to Bivol as the latter also has an ambition to be a unified champion either at 175 or 168 so probably he would take this fight.

If Bivol wins this at 168 then he got his dream but if Canelo dismantle Bivol at 168 with that rehydration clause, most of won't mind him winning the fight as this is not what a true warrior in the ring wants.

When was this rumor surfaces though? Because I remember Canelo interview before the John Ryder fight is that his goal is to fight Bivol or to rematch him at 175 lbs. So I guess that decision has change already if this latest rumor is true.

It's really up to Bivol to take the bait or not. I thought Bivol will have a fight this coming December.

Maybe this is just a get busy fight for him until he gets into Canelo or even Beterbiev. But if Canelo is chasing greatness then it should be at Light-HW because that is where they first fought. If it is 168 lbs then that is obviously Canelo's territory.

That's normal, when a person is basically doing things very well, but needs fame and needs money, obviously they have to take the bait, things can happen that way, we as fans know that it's something il+ ological that a boxer like Bivol wants or has to lower his category to get a little more money, it's something strange, but come on, it's Canelo, we know that we all Want to see a Canelo vs Benvidez, but things tend to be very different, something that we as boxing fans must learn is that in boxing is when you should have the most business model , because when you try to do things better you can verify that a boxer has to live off of money, his life, his diet, all that epresents money, his gym, his treatments, massages, everything that a boxer needs, well obviously he needs to have money, for this reason we have to be emphatic at all times, this is a spectacle.

I know that some of us stick to just hoping for the best in sport, and that they make fun of themselves because they are basically into rivalry, but this is something else, for a long time now the money that has been moving thanks to the boxing industry It is impressive, a lot has to be done , in fact Bivol has to move , one of the things that the Boxer wants is to have fame, but for what ? to have money , it is something normal, and that is why he uses his talent, his skills to be able to have a great life, that is partly why he is a boxer , he has Expressed it many times, and he always wants to have the best fights, because he knows that if he wins he will be valued much more, he will be much more famous, and that translates into having more money, is what he is really looking for, that is why he can do it, although to be honest, he should It will be Canelo Who rises and Moves to the Other category and not Bivol, but hey, we all know what Canelo is Like.

That is why this is going to be an interesting fight for Devin Haney I know that he is a very favorable fighter against Prograis for sure but because of Regis Prograis's power I think with just 1 punch maybe he can defeat Devin Haney if he is not technical of a fighter then he can not defeat Haney for sure, but if the new Regis Prograis is more technical than Haney then this is a match for him, for sure this fight is a fight of IQ,


Yup! That is not Haney alright, but damn that was one hell of a punch and for me why are sparring partners always in a position of danger to this kind of fighter that doesn't have control over their punches when it comes to their sparring partners 1st was Conor McGregor absolutely knockout his Sparring Partner and not only that sparring while wearing his shoes, and now Gervonta Davis throwing a solid punch to his partner is something that I am really against by it, but for sure on the heat of the moment maybe they can not control the situation,


For sure this is the real target of Devin Haney and Regis Prograis is something that he needed to defeat I was really excited when I watched both fighter's past fights and for sure it is really interesting as we could see the defense of Devin Haney for sure and how will Regis Prograis could penetrate it, and it, and who is the most faster fighter,

For the money? maybe Bivol and his camp will take this bait, however, you have to look at how the fans and boxing analyst will look at it,

a. Bivol is going down to a weight that he hasn't fought
b. Canelo is obviously negating what Bivol advantage has
c. Fans wanted Canelo to fight the young Mexican David Benavidez

For me, this is just money fight for Canelo. He should go with c, here, fight Benavidez, give him his due and then cemented his legacy by defeating him.

I think Bivol will take this fight, although if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't fought at 168 lbs in his career, as he is a solid and natural 175 lbs light heavyweight. But if he wanted more money and of course if the belt of Canelo is on the line then why not?

And there are also interviews ore news report before than he is willing to go down to 168 lbs in order for this fight to happen. Yes, that is rehydration clause and obviously it will have Bivol into a huge disadvantage to the point that we might say that will still be weight drain during fight night.

Have read that there is a rumor that has it, Canelo will be fighting Bivol in a rematch this May and it will be held in the 168-pound division. But the catch here is neither boxer would reach the 178 lbs come fight night, for me this is the same as the rehydration clause that Team Canelo is master of doing on their opponents.

What's your though on this guys, do Bivol would take the bait?

Yeah, there's no way back as he needs to step up to push his career, we don't know what will be the fate awaits him but just like what you menetioned even if it's a cherry pick for him the chance still good to showcase his skills from there he may take some risky fight if he manage to win this one an create his path inside this new division that he's taking.

Weekends is nearly coming if you are a fan then better to save some spare coin/money for Magsayo's odd.

But I guess he can't go back to 126-lbs no more, that's why he really need to go up at 130-lbs even if it's going to be hard for him at this weight class. And another interesting fight because it seems that his opponent could be a journey man already.

And as what we call it, a cherry pick fight for him or at least showcase his skills at this new division. And who knows, maybe he could be small here, but he will have to adapt and change his strategy as the now that he is in a new division.

Oh good for Mark for moving up at the 130 lbs division, it's obvious that he had a hard time making that 126 lbs as his body is growing already. But I do agree that it might be very difficult for him for this division.

So let's see how it goes for him, he will be against a unknown boxer, perhaps this is just a tune up for him. His opponent records is not that good as per boxrec, many losses in the last 8 to 10 fights.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/719645

To all Filipino fans out here, just a heads up that Mark Magsayo will be fighting this weekend against Isaac Avelar of Mexico.

This will be a debut fight for Mark Magsayo on the 130-lbs division. As of now, no bookies have covered this fight but i think odds will be out two or one day before the fight as usual.

Got a feeling that Mark will be having a hard time in the super featherweight division because for me he is small for this weight category, just my thought but i want him to win as usual.

https://www.ringtv.com/661844-mark-magsayo-makes-junior-lightweight-debut-against-isaac-avelar-on-december-9/

Of course, this is much awaited battle between two champions.
For Devin Haney himself, he has succeeded in having the WBC, IBF, WBO and WBA (Super) lightweight world title belts.
So in this fight if Devin Haney succeeds in defeating Regis Prograis then Devin Haney title acquisition will be more perfect with the inclusion of the title WBC Super Lightweight champion who was won from Prograis.
Devin Haney comes in as challenger but he is great contender and deserves to win this fight for the WBC Super Lightweight belt.

Of all the fight results, Devin Haney is able to always win, making him the favorite and able to take the belt from Prograis.
And Devin Haney victory will make history for him because entering the WBC Super Lightweight class as challenger can immediately win and the belt.

I saw that leaked video, and yes, it looks like Haney but it's not, and they say it's Elijah Pierce. And this could be a old video as the supposedly dance partner is super bantamweight so there is a big difference as far as weight class goes or if really Pierce.



https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/768225

So I wouldn't put too much emphasize on that video, it just hype more on Davis power though instead of a good promotion for Devin Haney.

There was supposedly a leaked video, a sparring session between Tank Davis and Devin Haney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhiJXcsdpaA

However, I don't think that is Haney though, there are a lot of videos surfacing lately with regards to that (in)famous sparring, but I don't see that it's legit or at least that is Haney in the video.

They could have sparred before, many times throughout, but we will have to see if there's one true video of that or who got the better of who. I don't know, since this is fight week already, they need to hype Haney vs Prograis.

^^ Prograis lost though is a close one against Josh Taylor, but for a brief moment, Taylor is the unified 140 lbs, so we can say that Prograis gave everything he got in that game he just fell short against a prime Josh Taylor. Taylor though has no more belts at 140 lbs, his last belt was taken about by Teo Lopez already.

So this is still a good match-up, Haney the more defensive boxer and obviously more agile in this fight.

Prograis not that much of a movement, but he has the power to knockout out Devin Haney here.

I agree with you, that Ryan Garcia is not used to using the Philly Shell yet, or maybe you are right about his natural technique I think he is still not used to the Philly Shell, and he looks really clumsy while doing it, and plus the running for sure I want Ryan Garcia to be in his old ways and for sure just take that running and be more technical and that was it,


For sure the fans don't like the new Ryan Garcia that much and for sure many are booing him while he runs away or gives his back on Oscar Duarte, for sure it was really surprising for Ryan Garcia to do such things and for me, I really don't like the way he gets his back to Duarte which I think even with the minus points on Duarte Oscar Duarte is still punching the crap out of Ryan Garcia for sure Ryan Garcia doesn't care much when Duarte punching him on the back of his head,


Quite interesting right as for sure Devin Haney is still undefeated, while Regis Prograis has 1 and it was from Josh Taylor but sure Devin Haney is the more agile one for sure and right now Prograis is fighting to defend his title belt the WBC title defense, and this is quite interesting for sure,

This is quite an interesting fight as Devin Haney vs Regis Prograis meets for the WBC super lightweight title.

Of the two boxers, it can be seen in various promotions and also on social media that Devin Haney is more striking or he is more enthusiastic and full of confidence to win and can overwhelm Regis Prograis in facing him.
With his achievements as boxer who previously held the undefeated lightweight world title and has record (30-0, 15 KO) he looks very confident in his ability to be able to hold this WBC title.
But if you look at the performance of both of them, Devin Haney will be more agile and faster than Regis Prograis because in terms of age alone, the two of them have difference of around 9 years.

Who knows who will be the winner in this fight but making Devin Haney the favorite is also the right choice.

It's expected that he'll have a tougher opponent next time as his ranking has improve, and probably, they might look for a championship fight as they are very eager to put Ryan Garcia back as a champion, that if they were satisfied already on his performance on his recent fight.

Ryan before he got defeated by Tank is a very hype fighter, now there's mix reaction and majority has probably criticized him as they were expecting a big comeback win, not a KO win but has struggle in few rounds before the win, and the he didn't fight a high-rank boxer in the division.

I agree, just because he won that fight via knockout and was able to prevent further loss, he needs to work and improve his stamina because his next opponents could not have that kind of problem and will be faster and have some power punches than him. He has a lot of room for improvement and surely his comeback fight was really the most important one because it could be the same reason for him to train more and have some courage to add something to his skills and techniques.

Ryan Garcia won but I see a lot of weakness was shown with what he has done. Too much movement can be exhausting and if he is up against a fighter who has strong stamina then it will be a big problem for him.
But like I said before, this is his class weight and he can surely dominate it because of being young. That's his next weakness, he is too young and it's too obvious the way he performed. He sometimes forgets that the strategy was to just circle around until Duarte gets exhausted. Luckily, he still managed to follow the plan.
A win is still a win, it may look like an ugly fight but I think that's the strategy. Keep the distance, don't let Duarte get near and punish his body because he is also weak there. Another lucky coincidence is the referee was a technical official. He keeps on halting the fight for a warning which takes the rhythm out of Duarte.
But Ryan Garcia cannot find the same way the next time. There's always a way to stop that and the effects of exhaustion will be on him.