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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 12, 2023, 01:21:29 PM

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

Many including myself want another boxing match for Francis Ngannou for sure after that incredible showcase that he had against Tyson Fury that is, that is why I would like Francis Ngannou to fight Tyson Fury again or maybe even other heavyweight boxers like Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, or maybe Oleksandr Usyk will do

For me, I think Francis Ngannou will still fight whoever boxer that wants to fight him and he knows that it is a big money to fight in the boxing ring so for sure he will keep on fighting boxers for sure, while PFL will be readying him to fight

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 04:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Well, the fight between Tyson Fury VS Oleksandr Usyk was called off for the time being because Tyson Fury was in bad shape because of his fight against Francis Ngannou sure Tyson Fury didn't expect that he would have a hard time against Francis Ngannou sure accepting the December fight against Oleksandr Usyk because he was underestimating Ngannou which is his bad take because he got an unexpected result, well Tyson Fury's fight was move to an unannounced date in February 2024 for the Unification of WBA belt,

Yeah, he really did underestimate Ngannou, regardless of what Fury says after the fight, we all know that it is not true. He said that the did train hard, but it was obvious that he was out of shape and there's no strategy in his corner. They just want to survived in this fight and this is exactly why the score is very close and very controversial. So this could be a blessing for Usyk as he can continue to train but not overextend to the point that he will overtrain.

So February 2024 might be just right for Usyk and all the pressure now is on the shoulder of Fury as this is the first time that we have seen him vulnerable in a fight and seemingly doesn't want to engage. And it might carry this kind of mental state when he fought Usyk this February.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 12, 2023, 04:18:08 AM

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

Many including myself want another boxing match for Francis Ngannou for sure after that incredible showcase that he had against Tyson Fury that is, that is why I would like Francis Ngannou to fight Tyson Fury again or maybe even other heavyweight boxers like Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, or maybe Oleksandr Usyk will do

For me, I think Francis Ngannou will still fight whoever boxer that wants to fight him and he knows that it is a big money to fight in the boxing ring so for sure he will keep on fighting boxers for sure, while PFL will be readying him to fight

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 04:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Well, the fight between Tyson Fury VS Oleksandr Usyk was called off for the time being because Tyson Fury was in bad shape because of his fight against Francis Ngannou sure Tyson Fury didn't expect that he would have a hard time against Francis Ngannou sure accepting the December fight against Oleksandr Usyk because he was underestimating Ngannou which is his bad take because he got an unexpected result, well Tyson Fury's fight was move to an unannounced date in February 2024 for the Unification of WBA belt,

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 04:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Joshua vs. Wilder is an enticing matchup, but being on the undercard of Fury vs. Usyk would benefit them more. Now, they might just be adding some wins to their records, and people will continue to talk about them. Of course, they should win their respective fights for this significant matchup to happen.

Although Fury vs. Usyk is the main event, these two fighters were once champions, so people will also be interested in watching them.

Some big fights lack interesting undercard fights, but this one is a sure double-header.

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There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

I thought they would be the undercard for the Fury vs. Usyk fight, but since that's not happening this year, Wilder and AJ probably chose to fight other opponents. It could be a tune-up fight so they'll be prepared once the schedule for the unification fight is fixed. That's good for them; it keeps them active and in full shape for what could potentially be the biggest fight in Saudi Arabia.

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 06:36:00 PM

There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

I thought they would be the undercard for the Fury vs. Usyk fight, but since that's not happening this year, Wilder and AJ probably chose to fight other opponents. It could be a tune-up fight so they'll be prepared once the schedule for the unification fight is fixed. That's good for them; it keeps them active and in full shape for what could potentially be the biggest fight in Saudi Arabia.

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 06:36:00 PM

There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

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There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

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^^ It doesn't matter. Crawford has made it already, unifying all the belts and if the IBF will want to stripped him then by all means they can obviously do it and put their interim champion and elevate him as a full champion. That has been the practice already, although it doesn't take weight as he hasn't fought the regular champion in Crawford and so there is still a ? on Ennis.

On the other hand, while waiting for Crawford vs Spence match as he is surely wanted to challenge the winner, he might do and defend his belt first. But as I have check the rankings, IBF rated boxers at this division is not well known.

#1 and #2 are not rated, not sure why it is like that, and then

#3 Cody Crowley
#4 Ekow Essuman
#5 Jamal James
#6 Errol Spence

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IBF stripped Terrence "Bud" Crawford of his belt because he failed to defend it or wasn't able to fight their interim champion in Jarrod Ennis.

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“On August 25,the IBF sent a letter to TBC Promotions directing Terence Crawford to begin negotiations with interim Champion Jaron Ennis,” an spokesperson informed BoxingScene.com. “Negotiations were to be concluded by September 24.

“On September 22, the IBF received an email from Harrison Whitman representing Crawford indicating that the agreement for the Spence v. Crawford bout contains an immediate rematch provision which Errol Spence has exercised. As such, Terrence Crawford is unable to engage in negotiations with Jaron Ennis.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-stripped-ibf-belt-jaron-ennis-elevated-full-titlist--179126

Obviously, Crawford already said in public that he is not interested on Ennis as of this time. And since Spence has activated the rematch clause, then that is the fight that Crawford wanted obviously as there is huge money on that fight.

Nevertheless, Ennis can still fight Crawford once he is done fighting (and winning in the rematch) against Spence.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 08, 2023, 06:46:44 AM

Shakur Stevenson has something to say after his fans are unhappy with him turning down the fight against Devin Haney.

Shakur Stevenson On Edwin De Los Santos Fight: "I'm Going To Surprise A Lot Of People"
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/shakur-stevenson-on-edwin-de-los-santos-fight-im-going-to-surprise-a-lot-of-people/

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Shakur Stevenson says fans are in for a “surprise” when they see him in his fight against Edwin De Los Santos next week in their twelve round headliner on ESPN at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

12 rounds. November 16th.

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“I don’t know how the fight is going to go. I think I’m going to surprise a lot of people. That’s what I’ve been doing my whole career. On fight night, I’ll be doing what I’ve been consistently doing, and that’s been dominating.”

I don't doubt him and I bet his fans don't too, it's him who doubted himself after he rejected that chance against Devin Haney and used the 75/25 share to avoid the fight.
He can box, that's for sure and his record tells it. 20 wins, 10 knockouts. That's a great number and I think he can really surprise a lot of people or they won't be surprised because they actually believe he can.
But, there are times that a boxer has to take risks if he wants to be on the top and he was given that opportunity but he didn't grab it.
Well, he is young, and there's still a chance, this is his prime but next time he should not look at the money but the goal should be the championship belt.

And that is why there are boxing fans saying that he is one of the most avoided fighters right now in his division. His fans though should understand where he is coming from as far as the Haney fight goes. Shakur says that the Haney's are hiding on the fact that they don't want any of him by low balling Shakur, like 75/25 or 80/20 as other might say.

And then supposedly Frank Martin, another up and coming good fighter at 135 lbs, agreed in principle but then when the contract is offer, his team suddenly turn it down.

So he has to settle with Edwin De Los Santos here. It's a good test for Shakur, but I doubt that Edwin will last against Shakur in this fight. Could be another technical fight and we will see Shakur giving us another great performance.

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Shakur Stevenson has something to say after his fans are unhappy with him turning down the fight against Devin Haney.

Shakur Stevenson On Edwin De Los Santos Fight: "I'm Going To Surprise A Lot Of People"
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/shakur-stevenson-on-edwin-de-los-santos-fight-im-going-to-surprise-a-lot-of-people/

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Shakur Stevenson says fans are in for a “surprise” when they see him in his fight against Edwin De Los Santos next week in their twelve round headliner on ESPN at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

12 rounds. November 16th.

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“I don’t know how the fight is going to go. I think I’m going to surprise a lot of people. That’s what I’ve been doing my whole career. On fight night, I’ll be doing what I’ve been consistently doing, and that’s been dominating.”

I don't doubt him and I bet his fans don't too, it's him who doubted himself after he rejected that chance against Devin Haney and used the 75/25 share to avoid the fight.
He can box, that's for sure and his record tells it. 20 wins, 10 knockouts. That's a great number and I think he can really surprise a lot of people or they won't be surprised because they actually believe he can.
But, there are times that a boxer has to take risks if he wants to be on the top and he was given that opportunity but he didn't grab it.
Well, he is young, and there's still a chance, this is his prime but next time he should not look at the money but the goal should be the championship belt.

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Ryan Garcia shared his own prediction about the upcoming Devin Haney versus Regis Prograis fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWtC65indlU

He also said that Regis Prograis will be the aggressive one because Devin Haney is not the come-forward guy. We will see.

But Regis has something to say too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28_gCfYSCc
"I'm gonna beat the f**k out of Devin Haney."
That makes the fight more interesting. I have also seen a lot of predictions that this fight will go long up to 12 rounds but considering how emotions are overwhelming between the two boxers, it might really become a fight with someone lying on the mat or a TKO in the end.
He said he had been busting his ass and grinding. I hope we will see that in the ring.

What do you guys think?
The odds are still unchanged. Prograis @3.65 and Haney @1.26.
I am waiting for the odds of KO, Decision, and Round Pick on when it will end. I hope the offers will be decent.

I wouldn't exactly trust Ryan Garcia's wisdom after he picked Rolly Romero to beat Tank Davis. In this case he is just going along with what everybody else has already said. Haney winning a decision is the consensus opinion.

I do think those odds are a bit lopsided. Prograis is an underdog but he has the kind of power that can shift the balance in his favor at any moment. Haney's power wasn't respected at lightweight, in a higher weight class this will be even more of a challenge. His defense will have to be perfect to achieve the outcome most are expecting.

Yup, Prograis might be an underdog, but his power can be a game changer once he starts to throw those solid punches and convert I think
Haney will have a big problem countering him.

Though, Haney is a known defensive fighter if he will manage to keep his distance and not to allow Prograis to convert the chance of winning is with him.

Closing the fight in the decision and scoring statistically Haney might take this fight against Prograis.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 07, 2023, 12:07:18 AM

I do think those odds are a bit lopsided. Prograis is an underdog but he has the kind of power that can shift the balance in his favor at any moment. Haney's power wasn't respected at lightweight, in a higher weight class this will be even more of a challenge. His defense will have to be perfect to achieve the outcome most are expecting.

I am thinking about that too. And the offer for the Prograis win is so sweet that many gamblers will probably take it too.
It's not like he is an underdog skill-based, it's just the odds that are made by some boxing analysts out there. I do believe he has a chance to win this fight, but he needs to be wise because against a technical boxer, you cannot just throw punches in the air or you will run out of gas so quickly that you won't even notice it.
Also, I am in doubt he can knock out Haney as quickly as possible, he should take his time because if he forces a KO then it could mean a great deal of danger to him too. Throwing haymakers will give Haney a lot of open shots so it's better to keep all those big punches for larger opportunities. Haney will do his normal routine because it's working but Prograis might want to change a bit of his boxing style.

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Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me.

He was the defending champion, correct? It seems like a significant underestimation by the bookies, making him a heavy underdog despite holding the belt. There's no doubt that Haney is a talented fighter, but it would be more respectful to the champion to offer odds not higher than 3. Nevertheless, this is gambling, so if we trust Prograis to win, we should view it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Bookies might have the last fight of Inoue as reference on this odds. Just like Haney, Inoue is an undisputed champion of lower weight category and fought the bigger Fulton and won the fight. Aside from that probably the bookies is also considering the age gap of the two boxer where Haney is 10 years younger than Prograis. Prograis at 34 is almost at the end of his peak so bookies might be thinking that Prograis performance is in a decline
reason why Haney is the favorite even thought Prograis is holding the belt.

34 seems a prime year still. bookies rarely make mistakes in providing odds but if you are a very fan of Regis, you gonna be happy with those odds.
my guess is that Haney will outbox Prograis but will survive til the last rounds and it will be UD by Haney. and it could be the other way around too since Haney struggles to fight with southpaw boxers and Prograis is a southpaw.

The fight will be unpredictable but I will also be rooting for Prograis over Haney. This is a bold fight for Haney going up to straight away going for the champ but was he avoiding Shakur?

Yeah, they seldom make mistakes when they list the odds, and I think those odds makers have a lot of experience and they take into account like the fights and the resumes of this fighters before putting their odds. So there might not be a surprised to see the power punching Regis Prograis as somewhat the underdog against Devin Haney. But you can't take away the fact the Regis is a champion in this division and Haney is the one moving up in weight.

Regis is a very live underdog here, so if you are a fan of him, why not put some money in him. He is still in his prime and his only lost is against the former unified champion at 140 lbs in Josh Taylor. But Josh lost all the belt now and Regis got one and so if you look at it, might be a blessing for Regis to lost that fight as it did good for his career as he gain a lot of experience from his first L.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 06, 2023, 01:54:51 AM

Ryan Garcia shared his own prediction about the upcoming Devin Haney versus Regis Prograis fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWtC65indlU

He also said that Regis Prograis will be the aggressive one because Devin Haney is not the come-forward guy. We will see.

But Regis has something to say too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28_gCfYSCc
"I'm gonna beat the f**k out of Devin Haney."
That makes the fight more interesting. I have also seen a lot of predictions that this fight will go long up to 12 rounds but considering how emotions are overwhelming between the two boxers, it might really become a fight with someone lying on the mat or a TKO in the end.
He said he had been busting his ass and grinding. I hope we will see that in the ring.

What do you guys think?
The odds are still unchanged. Prograis @3.65 and Haney @1.26.
I am waiting for the odds of KO, Decision, and Round Pick on when it will end. I hope the offers will be decent.

I wouldn't exactly trust Ryan Garcia's wisdom after he picked Rolly Romero to beat Tank Davis. In this case he is just going along with what everybody else has already said. Haney winning a decision is the consensus opinion.

I do think those odds are a bit lopsided. Prograis is an underdog but he has the kind of power that can shift the balance in his favor at any moment. Haney's power wasn't respected at lightweight, in a higher weight class this will be even more of a challenge. His defense will have to be perfect to achieve the outcome most are expecting.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 05, 2023, 08:54:33 AM

We did have a fight this weekends with Cordina vs Edward Vazquez. I wouldn't say it's a good fight but Cordina is the huge favorite here and I thought that he is going to knockout Vazquez. However, the fight lasted the full 12 rounds and won on a majority decision and retained his IBF super featherweight.

This is Cordina's second reign as he was stripped in 2022 because he had a injury and can't defend his belt.

And this is good because next we will see Navarette fighting Conceição in the undercard of Stevenson vs Delos Santos. Most likely the winner could face Cordina for the unification fight and it could be very exciting.

The majority of that fight goes to Joe Cordina for sure he won it against Edward Vazquez the fight was interesting enough but for sure it could have that awesome touch if he won this via something like a knock-out and because it was already a one-sided fight for sure,

While the Emanuel Navarrete VS Robson Conceição looks like a pick fight I could be wrong because I really don't know Robson Conceição but it could be an interesting one, for sure even though on paper it looks like a picked fight for Emanuel Navarrete,

Quote from: danherbias07 on November 06, 2023, 01:54:51 AM

Ryan Garcia shared his own prediction about the upcoming Devin Haney versus Regis Prograis fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWtC65indlU

He also said that Regis Prograis will be the aggressive one because Devin Haney is not the come-forward guy. We will see.

But Regis has something to say too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28_gCfYSCc
"I'm gonna beat the f**k out of Devin Haney."
That makes the fight more interesting. I have also seen a lot of predictions that this fight will go long up to 12 rounds but considering how emotions are overwhelming between the two boxers, it might really become a fight with someone lying on the mat or a TKO in the end.
He said he had been busting his ass and grinding. I hope we will see that in the ring.

What do you guys think?
The odds are still unchanged. Prograis @3.65 and Haney @1.26.
I am waiting for the odds of KO, Decision, and Round Pick on when it will end. I hope the offers will be decent.

For me, there is a chance that Devin Haney can also be an aggressive fighter but he pretty much likes the fight to be safe and he likes to fight smart for sure with all those technical strikes and such sure Devin Haney is that kind of guy but given the coincidence of the fight he can become very aggressive aswell maybe in the beginning of the rounds Prograis could be aggressive and such, but in the later round when Devin Haney can see the opportunity he will surely raise to the occasion to swat that win, for me I like Devin Haney for that fight,

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Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me.

He was the defending champion, correct? It seems like a significant underestimation by the bookies, making him a heavy underdog despite holding the belt. There's no doubt that Haney is a talented fighter, but it would be more respectful to the champion to offer odds not higher than 3. Nevertheless, this is gambling, so if we trust Prograis to win, we should view it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Bookies might have the last fight of Inoue as reference on this odds. Just like Haney, Inoue is an undisputed champion of lower weight category and fought the bigger Fulton and won the fight. Aside from that probably the bookies is also considering the age gap of the two boxer where Haney is 10 years younger than Prograis. Prograis at 34 is almost at the end of his peak so bookies might be thinking that Prograis performance is in a decline
reason why Haney is the favorite even thought Prograis is holding the belt.

34 seems a prime year still. bookies rarely make mistakes in providing odds but if you are a very fan of Regis, you gonna be happy with those odds.
my guess is that Haney will outbox Prograis but will survive til the last rounds and it will be UD by Haney. and it could be the other way around too since Haney struggles to fight with southpaw boxers and Prograis is a southpaw.

The fight will be unpredictable but I will also be rooting for Prograis over Haney. This is a bold fight for Haney going up to straight away going for the champ but was he avoiding Shakur?

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Quote from: Getmon on November 06, 2023, 08:15:16 AM

Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me.

He was the defending champion, correct? It seems like a significant underestimation by the bookies, making him a heavy underdog despite holding the belt. There's no doubt that Haney is a talented fighter, but it would be more respectful to the champion to offer odds not higher than 3. Nevertheless, this is gambling, so if we trust Prograis to win, we should view it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Bookies might have the last fight of Inoue as reference on this odds. Just like Haney, Inoue is an undisputed champion of lower weight category and fought the bigger Fulton and won the fight. Aside from that probably the bookies is also considering the age gap of the two boxer where Haney is 10 years younger than Prograis. Prograis at 34 is almost at the end of his peak so bookies might be thinking that Prograis performance is in a decline
reason why Haney is the favorite even thought Prograis is holding the belt.

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Quote from: Getmon on November 06, 2023, 08:15:16 AM

Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me.

He was the defending champion, correct? It seems like a significant underestimation by the bookies, making him a heavy underdog despite holding the belt. There's no doubt that Haney is a talented fighter, but it would be more respectful to the champion to offer odds not higher than 3. Nevertheless, this is gambling, so if we trust Prograis to win, we should view it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

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Quote from: Getmon on November 06, 2023, 08:15:16 AM

Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me. These boxers came from hard fights where they only won by questionable decisions. But Progais was fighting someone not in the top five while Haney fought Lomachenko. I will not miss this match. Prograis does not have the speed of Lomachenko but he has the ability to hurt Haney. Haney does not have ko in his punches but he has what it takes to win a decision.

Yeah, I think maybe sport bookies are underestimating Regis Prograis, or they think that Haney can overcome him with his skills. The scary part is that Regis has power to knockout anyone at 140 lbs and this is the first time that Haney in this weight. So we don't know how good he is, and his chin is also questionable. I mean if by chance Regis hit him with power punches he might go down.

Quote from: Getmon on November 06, 2023, 08:15:16 AM

Ryan Garcia utilized the names of Prograis and Haney to gain more fame in his separate match with I forgot the name. He generally discusses battling the best but as of recently, he is fearful of taking a match with the champions.

He is fighting Duarte, it's obvious that this is just a stepping stone or a comeback fight for Ryan. He is big though, an for sure he will not have a problem making 140 lbs. And Prograis is a champion here and Haney trying to make his name at this division same with him. So don't be surprise if he is going to call both of this fighters. Even Teo Lopez as well is in the radar of Ryan Garcia. So let's see first if he can get over Duarte and it will not be an easy fight for him.

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