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Too bad I was late in this event. If the sport is all about achievements then Matias-Ergashev is definitely the main event. Nonetheless, it's the only title fight and is the best match-up of the event. I have high regard for Ergashev, what I just don't like leading into his first title fight is his more than a year of inactivity. It'll be cool if Matias is given the chance by PBC to unify his belt against the other champions. But I doubt PBC will allow its popular but underserving WBA champion Rolly to get butchered by the Rican which should be the easiest to make as both are in the same promotion. WBC champion Prograis is with Matchroom while the lineal and WBO champion Lopez is with Top Rank.

I expected Jermall to destroy the sacrificial lamb, Jose Benavidez but he failed. If Jermall won't get Canelo next, I hope he won't face another bum next and should fight Plant, Morrell, or Benavidez. He should've been stripped of his WBC belt.

The main event was also expected so I did not even bother to score. If that was an active and younger version of Andrade a few years ago, I'd give him a better chance of finishing the whole 12 rounds due to his awkwardness, better reflexes and he's used to fighting long fights. What's more interesting is if he gets Canelo next with his long overdue WBC mandatory. But I'll be fine matching him against Morrell or Jermall if there's no Canelo.

Andrade's awkwardness kept him in the fight for a while but Benavidez is too strong and every body shot was zapping the energy out of Demetrius.
Benavidez was never hurt by Andrade so he just pushed his way forward and broke him down.

On the undercard I was impressed with Subriel Matias who maintains his perfect KO win ratio and also improved his streak of wins by retirement. I don't know if it's a record but 5 straight opponents quitting is even better than Lomachenko's streak when he earned the nickname "Nomaschenko".  A unification against Teofimo Lopez could probably sell out Madison Square Garden.

Jermall Charlo looked a bit rusty but still got the win against a naturally smaller Jose Benavidez Jr., who also only has one good leg. Charlo's best days may be in the past and I can't see him being competitive against Canelo or Jose's brother David. It seems like his best option might be Caleb Plant.

Yes, it was a blast, Benavidez didn't give any chance for Andrade to make the fight at least close in our eyes. Benavidez just put on the gas in this fight as if he wanted to proved something and that he is going to be a future champion.

And it's obvious that Andrade doesn't have any more gas tank or stamina and he look very unsteady when David will go and throw like 3-4 punch combinations and some of them are hitting the target. I thought though that at least 10 rounds this fight will go, but the Monster Mexican can't be denied and wanted to finished the fight early. With this win, we know who's David targeting next.

You got it mate, the fight ended at round 6, so hopefully you're able to put a bet on it and win. Unfortunately, Andrade doesn't have the stamina and I will say that his age is catching up on him.

He uses a lot of foot and good movement, but Benavidez is like stalking him and throwing a lot of power punches that really affect his gas tank.

And again, with this kind of victory, Canelo should step up by now and fight DB. There's no way that he Canelo will cement his legacy without giving DB a fight next year or before he retires.

I am presently watching Benavidez vs. Andrade. I reckon if this Andrade has good stamina and he can maintain this performance, he might have a chance. However, it appears that he became careless on the last seconds of the 4th round. This might be caused by low stamina and being tired.

I am quite certain that this will end before round 7. I will be very shocked if Andrade will go to a decision heheheh.

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Regarding that fight later, here are the odds for the game.

Main Event
David Benavidez - | Win @1.27  | By KO @2.30 | By Decision @2.23 |
Demetrius Andrade -  | Win @3.85  | By KO @12.00 | By Decision @4.60 |
Andrade is too heavy of an underdog, you guys decide your pick.

Co-Main Event
Jermall Charlo -  @1.23
Jose Luis Benavidez Jr. @6.20
Other picks are not available yet at Stake.com

Main Card
Hector Luis Garcia Mora - | Win @1.41  | By KO @3.75 | By Decision @1.93 |
Lamont Roach Jr. - | Win @2.90  | By KO @8.60 | By Decision @3.60 |

The fights are too one-sided and most gamblers will probably just stick with the favorites on this event. Good luck with your bets guys.

For sure the upcoming fight between David Benavidez and Demetrius Andrade will be on this day, and it was the same night as the Chantelle Cameron and Katie Taylor event

Benavidez vs. Andrade

Saturday 11.25.2023 at 08:00 PM ET
Venue: Michelob ULTRA Arena
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States



MAIN EVENT
David Benavidez VS Demetrius Andrade

CO-MAIN EVENT
Jermall Charlo VS Jose Benavidez Jr

MAIN CARD
Subriel Matias VS Shohjahon Ergashev
Hector Garcia VS Lamont Roach Jr.

PRELIMINARY CARD
Sergei Lipinets VS Michel Rivera
Vito Mielnicki Jr. VS Alexis Salazar
Pablo Vicente VSMuhammadkhuja Yaqubov
Daniel Blancas VS Raiko Santana
Curmel Moton VS Hunter Turbyfill
Israel Mercado VS Wesley Rivers
Jabin Chollet VS Jorge Perez
Alex Holley VS Allen Medina

All information was from TAPOLOG: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/105427-benavidez-vs-andrade
Thread in the Forum: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/david-benavidez-vs-demetrius-andrade-interim-wbc-super-middleweight-title-fight-5469082

Yes, I think his new trainer knows this, that's why it doesn't make sense for him, even though that there is a belt in the line, to go down to 135 lbs because it's just going to REKT him physically. And I think even if he hires the best nutritionist in the world, he will still not be 100% if he fights on that weight class.

It's that during the Davis fight, he isn't the A-side, and so he has to nod to everything that Davis has to say, including the rehydration clause. It's close to saying that Ryan will not win that fight because he will be like a zombie against  Davis. And Tank knows this, that's why he attack his body in that fight.

Good point. He may be doing it for his own profit through views. We are all aware that streamers make money thru the videos they make and maybe he is the one making this issue bigger for his own good.
This is just the normal trash talk of the Gypsy King but he makes a ruckus out of it. I doubt many will believe whatever he says.

True. I really like Ryan Garcia to stay in his weight class now. Don't even come back downstairs because he will just get weak there. Just looking at his body figure, it is meant for the 140 lbs and I bet he will still have the speed that he wants in this weight. Cutting down weight will just risk his career and he is still young to do that. Just keep on climbing up because he has the body and the height for it. I mean, just look at how mismatched Davis was in statistics, and yet Ryan kneeled when punched in the liver.

I like to follow your assessment, since social media is one of the best places to make money, there's always reader who will like to
read a negative statement regarding a personality that is gaining attention all over the web.

Better to keep away or just ignore since there's nothing special about what the content creator's saying just pure self-proclaimed opinions.

It's more on how he will gain views and how he can take money from those poor viewers who watch or read the contents.

For sure he will make a comeback, be it with GBP or other promotions after his contract with GBP expires. So maybe what they want is just to test it first at 140 lbs, get a decent fighter in Duarte, win by a knockout and then his confidence is very high against and then he can call whoever he wants to fight next.


Shakur is at 135 lbs at best and Ryan will be hard pressed to go back to that weight class as we have seen that he is drain when he fought Davis at 135 lbs. So it's going to be a moving backward for them and it will have a big risk on Ryan. I think 140 lbs will be the best weight class for him at this point of his career.

These comments from Froch sound like bitterness. It's one thing to criticize Fury's talent or discipline, but Froch is questioning his masculinity and saying something completely non-sensical about sponsorships. Fury has had no problem making money since he signed with Top Rank and ESPN, many times more than what Froch ever made. I've seen some of Froch's YouTube videos in my feed and I always just ignore them because of how clickbaity the titles are. I don't know if Froch really believes what he says or if being a Fury hater is some kind of gimmick that gets him views and keeps him relevant.

^^ I think it's the right thing to do for those organizations, Charlo was given a leeway, he was even declared as undisputed before the WBO took that belt off from him. And then IBF followed suit. So he has the blessing to fight Canelo by those organizations and given him ample time if he wanted to defend it or not.

Tim has been relegated to full champion already, so that's good enough for him as he has been waiting for Charlo since June when he says that he was injured and then decided to go for the Alvarez fight.

I'm not familiar with the IBF fighters though, but it's good that if Bakhram Murtazaliev is the mandatory challenger, then he will have the first crack on the belt against Jack Culcay.

And it was reported that Jermell Charlo has vacated another belt or shall we shall strip because he wasn't able to defend the belt, Jermell Charlo Vacates IBF 154-Lb Title; Bakhram Murtazaliev Vs. Jack Culcay Likely For Belt

First it was his WBO belt that was stripped because he wasn't able to defend it against Tim Tszyu because obviously, he goes for Canelo for a bigger paycheck.

Now, it the IBF that stripped him of his 154 lbs belt. And then the organization will have Bakhram Murtazaliev Vs. Jack Culcay fight for the vacant belt.

Maybe we can see unification in the future Tim Tszyu vs the winner of the IBF belt.

There are a lot of good fights to make at 147 even without Crawford and Spence. Ortiz is planning a comeback, then we have Stanionis, Boots, and Butaev. There's also Thurman who's past his prime but is probably the most marketable. I don't think Bud is returning to 147. So I am expecting all the remaining belts to become vacant soon.

As for PBC, they did treat some fighters as second-class. PBC has a lot of questionable stuff including its managerial license when clearly it's a promotion. I remember someone said PBC is like a cult. There were cases wherein fighters sacrificed to receive their highest purse just because they wanted to stay with Haymon or they were simply ducking. Peter Quillin was the first I noticed, the guy was guaranteed over a million by Jay Z's Roc Nation to face Korobov but he declined it. Then undefeated Deontay Wilder declined a hundred million dollar deal with Matchroom to fight AJ twice. Jermall Charlo rejected a $7 million offer from Matchroom to fight Andrade. And then there's Boots as the latest to refuse a title shot with Crawford with a lame excuse. So somehow it's a good thing Showtime is leaving boxing. Even better if PBC ceases operations since there are promoters out there to sign its fighters and they are way easier to negotiate especially Hearn and De La Hoya.

one mistake of Jaron Ennis's promoter and it is a big consequence for sure, if Cameron Dunkin still isn't moving on from what Crawford has done I really think doing such things Cameron Dunkin has led talent to despair, will impact his career and future on the sports for sure that was one flip side on boxing you can never know who's true and who is not, but that is life in general, but for sure Jaron Ennis would just need to prove that he is better and for sure this is all allegation towards Cameron Dunkin and it is because of Crawfords doing,


Well, it is pretty normal for the Gypsy King to make trash talks like this but apparently, guys like this who can have a conversation like that is a potential market value, just like Conor McGregor but for sure Francis Ngannou is ready for a rebout, and funny enough Tyson Fury doesn't have any answers to that, but for sure I would like to see another fight for Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou,


Well, it needed to be moved Tyson Fury had a bad knockout and it was on the temple he needed a sure rest because of that, for sure Tyson Fury never expected something like that, and he will have a hard time against Ngannou for sure they think this is going to be just like a walk in the park but for the heavyweights the exhibition matches is different as 1 punch can still be fatal for any boxer in that division,

IMHO, Shakur will not avoid Haney and i think he will call out his name to fight him as he has nothing to lose and everything to gain if ever he wins against Haney. That would be a fight between two technical boxers and as hard core fan of boxing, I don't mind if they box for the full 12 rounds as that might be fun to watch, but to ordinary fans who always want a KO, never mind watching this fight.

Tyson Fury branded 'not manly' and 'embarrassing' in blistering attack on boxing star
https://www.gbnews.com/sport/boxing-news-tyson-fury-not-manly-embarrassing
-Carl Froch

Well, Tyson Fury is known for his trash talking and I doubt he will struggle to get sponsorship, not that I do like all that trash talk but he is Tyson Fury and that name itself will get his sponsorship no matter what happens.
He actually doesn't need to do what other boxers are doing on social media to receive more attention, he will get the attention and all this trash-talking is just a bonus.

Here is what he said to Usyk.

It will be a long wait for us boxing fans, I thought it was going to be our entertainment gift before Christmas but because of what happened against Ngannou, Fury will get his recovery time and it will be done in February.
Too long but there's nothing we can do and we won't like one camp using that as a reason for his defeat. It's better if they are both healthy.

Oh yeah, I remember that him and Top Rank co promoted Crawford way back when Terrence was starting his career and we can say that they did a good job, made him undisputed at 140 lbs. But Crawford wanted more and so he bolted out with Top Rank, never really hire someone to manage his career.

But as far as Ennis fighting Crawford, he will have to wait because we all know that Spence has activated the rematch clause, could be 154 lbs fighting weight. Yeah, it could be that Ennis will be carrying the torch, but there could still be a lot of fighters at 147 lbs not name Spence and Crawford. Maybe Ortiz if he can still make it at 147 lbs? Or Eimantas Stanionis the regular WBA World champion.

Cameron Dunkin, who is Ennis's promoter, was once Crawfords manager. Crawford fired him and he has let his personal feelings get in the way of some opportunities for his fighter Ennis. Haymon has treated Cameron's fighters as second class citizens. Being so loyal to PBC has backfired because now they have no network to fight on and no leverage to negotiate with Crawford or any other top welterweight. Ennis is supposed to be the one who carries the torch when Crawford and Spence retire but the poor handling of his career is holding him back from realizing his potential.