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Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 35. (Read 7068 times)

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Maybe I'm not clear, Casimero still has his chance to fight Inoue only if he won the fight against Butler. But the Butler fight didn't happen because of the weight issues on Casimero. So if he just make the weight on the scheduled first fight and win, maybe we have seen the Casimero vs Inoue already. However, even in the rescheduled fight, he still missed the weight or was caught still trying to lose weight in sauna by the BBBoC, hence the fight with Butler was cancelled and he was replaced by another Filipino who lost to Butler. And so the Butler vs Inoue happen, and if by chance Casimero made the weight in the second fight, he should be the one facing Inoue. So still boils down to Casimero not making the said weight that deter the fight happening between him and Inoue.

That was supposed to be the best undisputed fight if Casimero had been able to meet the weigh-in requirements. I think his team was unaware that they were violating the rules, so it's not that he didn't make the weight requirement - he was disqualified, which gave Butler the opportunity to get the belt against a weaker opponent.

However, we all witnessed the kind of quality Butler has as a boxer. He is not on the level of Inoue and Casimero yet.

Its like Casimero was been sabotage for on that match that's why the fight between Butler and him has been off. If Casimero didn't get any problem on the restrictions on that fight for sure Butler cannot get those belt. And  also maybe for that we see the fight between Inoue vs Casimero to happen. But that is past already and fans need to move on since Inoue vs Casimero will be listed on history as fans requested fight but never happen.

Now we since Inoue will fight Fulton we can still enjoy watching how Inoue could possibly dominate him and get another miles stone on his career.
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Maybe I'm not clear, Casimero still has his chance to fight Inoue only if he won the fight against Butler. But the Butler fight didn't happen because of the weight issues on Casimero. So if he just make the weight on the scheduled first fight and win, maybe we have seen the Casimero vs Inoue already. However, even in the rescheduled fight, he still missed the weight or was caught still trying to lose weight in sauna by the BBBoC, hence the fight with Butler was cancelled and he was replaced by another Filipino who lost to Butler. And so the Butler vs Inoue happen, and if by chance Casimero made the weight in the second fight, he should be the one facing Inoue. So still boils down to Casimero not making the said weight that deter the fight happening between him and Inoue.

That was supposed to be the best undisputed fight if Casimero had been able to meet the weigh-in requirements. I think his team was unaware that they were violating the rules, so it's not that he didn't make the weight requirement - he was disqualified, which gave Butler the opportunity to get the belt against a weaker opponent.

However, we all witnessed the kind of quality Butler has as a boxer. He is not on the level of Inoue and Casimero yet.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.

It's been promised that the fight are going to happen still, Inoue just have to wait for his injuries to heal. And it seems that Fulton is ok with the cancellation, I mean as you have said, no don't want things like this to happen to any boxer specially if they have a fight, but we don't have control of it.
No one would want a player to get injured, but sometimes things happen and injuries cannot be prevented. It's better to postpone or cancel the event instead of forcing it to happen despite the injury, which could result in a boring fight and Inoue making excuses for his loss.

For the Casimero fight, it's not the fault of Inoue though, it was Casimero who has issues with his weight twice. And he was given by the body a second time against Butler but the same case happens. So if there is someone that we need to blame for the fight not happening between Casimero and Inoue, it will be John Riel's fault 100%.
There was no weigh-in for the Inoue vs. Casimero fight because the fight was postponed or cancelled due to the pandemic. After the cancellation, Casimero won fights and met the weight requirement for his subsequent fights. The issue with Butler was different, as it came later.

Maybe I'm not clear, Casimero still has his chance to fight Inoue only if he won the fight against Butler. But the Butler fight didn't happen because of the weight issues on Casimero. So if he just make the weight on the scheduled first fight and win, maybe we have seen the Casimero vs Inoue already. However, even in the rescheduled fight, he still missed the weight or was caught still trying to lose weight in sauna by the BBBoC, hence the fight with Butler was cancelled and he was replaced by another Filipino who lost to Butler. And so the Butler vs Inoue happen, and if by chance Casimero made the weight in the second fight, he should be the one facing Inoue. So still boils down to Casimero not making the said weight that deter the fight happening between him and Inoue.
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I think Fulton already calm his fans and says that he will still wait for Inoue and push this fight to happen in Japan. Definitely it's a setup on his part as he is training hard for this one specially that he is the underdog. But he won't lose anything yet, he is still the champion.

It will be bad if he decided to go up in weight and not fight Inoue because he has to wait for too long. As others think, he could go for a tune up fight, choose a boxer that has less risk so that he will not have that ring rust.

Besides, the deal was already settled. The contract has been officially inked. Everything is already in place. No need to change plans or not follow the contract since it's in the first place, the fight will just be moved on to another date to give way for Inoue's recovery period. It will be a disaster if Fulton will not follow the original contract where in fact, the postponement is not intentional.

If at some point Inoue again suffers a problem on the rescheduled date, that's the time Fulton can now consider changing his plan as the boxing organization itself will not push their fight if another problem happened on the same side, which is Inoue.

We don't know for sure if Fulton's camp will continue to wait or there's alternative plan while waiting for the recovery of Inoue..

But like what you have said the contract was signed and the injury is not intentional best to wait for the reschedule date while continue doing
the routine trainings and practices.

It will happen if both camps will agree and will continue the talk while waiting for the schedule date t come.
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I think Fulton already calm his fans and says that he will still wait for Inoue and push this fight to happen in Japan. Definitely it's a setup on his part as he is training hard for this one specially that he is the underdog. But he won't lose anything yet, he is still the champion.

It will be bad if he decided to go up in weight and not fight Inoue because he has to wait for too long. As others think, he could go for a tune up fight, choose a boxer that has less risk so that he will not have that ring rust.

Besides, the deal was already settled. The contract has been officially inked. Everything is already in place. No need to change plans or not follow the contract since it's in the first place, the fight will just be moved on to another date to give way for Inoue's recovery period. It will be a disaster if Fulton will not follow the original contract where in fact, the postponement is not intentional.

If at some point Inoue again suffers a problem on the rescheduled date, that's the time Fulton can now consider changing his plan as the boxing organization itself will not push their fight if another problem happened on the same side, which is Inoue.
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Alright, some news stated that Naoya Inoue suffers a "hand injury" during sparring.

I'm curious about what happened though, does it happen while Inoue is in a sparring session or while doing his usual punching bag routine? Maybe too much pumped even at practice? Or if it's on sparring, maybe Inoue really showed seriousness even for that.

Here we go again with a long period of speculation because of the postponement. Almost just 2 months left waiting for this clash and we end up hanging on to our excitement because of the unfortunate thing that happened on Inoue. If there's no fresh news or progress for about weeks, I'll consider locking this thread.
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We can never be certain, as many of us expect Inoue to easily beat Fulton, but Fulton is the champion and will not give up easily. Inoue's injury gives Fulton more time to prepare, but if the delay is too long, it's possible that Fulton may move up in weight and the fight may not happen at all.
This is definitely disappointing, while the fight being postponed is better than being canceled this is just the first reaction, Fulton will probably want to know as soon as possible when the fight could take place as he cannot simply wait for Inoue to recover if the recovery time is too long, and at the same time it is possible that depending on how serious is the injury of Inoue and how much time he needs to stay away from the ring his camp will want a tune up fight before he faces Futon, and in that case the possibility the fight does not happen at all is in fact high.

I think Fulton already calm his fans and says that he will still wait for Inoue and push this fight to happen in Japan. Definitely it's a setup on his part as he is training hard for this one specially that he is the underdog. But he won't lose anything yet, he is still the champion.

It will be bad if he decided to go up in weight and not fight Inoue because he has to wait for too long. As others think, he could go for a tune up fight, choose a boxer that has less risk so that he will not have that ring rust.
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We can never be certain, as many of us expect Inoue to easily beat Fulton, but Fulton is the champion and will not give up easily. Inoue's injury gives Fulton more time to prepare, but if the delay is too long, it's possible that Fulton may move up in weight and the fight may not happen at all.
This is definitely disappointing, while the fight being postponed is better than being canceled this is just the first reaction, Fulton will probably want to know as soon as possible when the fight could take place as he cannot simply wait for Inoue to recover if the recovery time is too long, and at the same time it is possible that depending on how serious is the injury of Inoue and how much time he needs to stay away from the ring his camp will want a tune up fight before he faces Futon, and in that case the possibility the fight does not happen at all is in fact high.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.

As long as the injury is real and will have a big impact on the performance of a boxer in the fight it should be postponed, the injured boxer's camp is right to call for a performance, in the case of Inoue he is the kind of fighter who will go all out and for a knockout and he cannot do that if he is injured, its better for a boxer to cancel the fight then to push the fight and do an alibi about his injury after he loses.
This just delays Inoue's title run, he can beat Fulton and become undisputed in that division, so far he is a favorite in the weight category he is fighting.

We can never be certain, as many of us expect Inoue to easily beat Fulton, but Fulton is the champion and will not give up easily. Inoue's injury gives Fulton more time to prepare, but if the delay is too long, it's possible that Fulton may move up in weight and the fight may not happen at all.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.

As long as the injury is real and will have a big impact on the performance of a boxer in the fight it should be postponed, the injured boxer's camp is right to call for a performance, in the case of Inoue he is the kind of fighter who will go all out and for a knockout and he cannot do that if he is injured, its better for a boxer to cancel the fight then to push the fight and do an alibi about his injury after he loses.
This just delays Inoue's title run, he can beat Fulton and become undisputed in that division, so far he is a favorite in the weight category he is fighting.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.

It's been promised that the fight are going to happen still, Inoue just have to wait for his injuries to heal. And it seems that Fulton is ok with the cancellation, I mean as you have said, no don't want things like this to happen to any boxer specially if they have a fight, but we don't have control of it.
No one would want a player to get injured, but sometimes things happen and injuries cannot be prevented. It's better to postpone or cancel the event instead of forcing it to happen despite the injury, which could result in a boring fight and Inoue making excuses for his loss.

For the Casimero fight, it's not the fault of Inoue though, it was Casimero who has issues with his weight twice. And he was given by the body a second time against Butler but the same case happens. So if there is someone that we need to blame for the fight not happening between Casimero and Inoue, it will be John Riel's fault 100%.
There was no weigh-in for the Inoue vs. Casimero fight because the fight was postponed or cancelled due to the pandemic. After the cancellation, Casimero won fights and met the weight requirement for his subsequent fights. The issue with Butler was different, as it came later.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.

It's been promised that the fight are going to happen still, Inoue just have to wait for his injuries to heal. And it seems that Fulton is ok with the cancellation, I mean as you have said, no don't want things like this to happen to any boxer specially if they have a fight, but we don't have control of it.

For the Casimero fight, it's not the fault of Inoue though, it was Casimero who has issues with his weight twice. And he was given by the body a second time against Butler but the same case happens. So if there is someone that we need to blame for the fight not happening between Casimero and Inoue, it will be John Riel's fault 100%.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.

It is disappointing for the fans who were eagerly anticipating this fight. Unfortunately, we cannot do anything about Inoue's injury, but we are hopeful that this fight will still happen later this year. Inoue has a bad history of postponed fights, as his scheduled fight against Casimero has yet to take place.
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Really unfortunate that the fight will be postponed when everything is 100% ready and just waiting for the big day.

Fulton will now have to wait until Inoue is now fit to fight. Of course, we also want them to both be at 100% on the day of the fight.

Regarding, summer in Japan, the period was from June to September. I wonder what injury Inoue suffers during his training that needs several months to recover from and for the rehabilitation process.
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There could be some attractive odds for Inoue to win by KO or by Decision.

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Of course a Fulton win by any other method is going to be high, but that's tough for him. But if we will go right now with a bet on Inoue, might be good by KO or by Decision. By KO because we all have seen the destructive power of Inoue and even if he is going up in weight, he might carry it with him. And if Fulton is really that tough not to crack for Inoue, he could also win by decision.

Fulton to win via decision is pretty decent, maybe I'll throw some few bucks on his favor. But my main bet is for Naoya Inoue to win via KO and not decision because that's just highly unlikely to me. Considering his past fights, regardless if the boxer is champion or not, he's got more wins via KO than decision and that's enough for me to believe that this fight will likely to end with the same outcome. KO @ 2.37 is frankly good enough.
I might share up on the same views but one hesitates me is that this is a step up division which he's fighting on the belt holder for this division on which i could say that this would be a bit tougher compared into those
guys that he had fought on the division where he had been dominating but its true that its unlikely for this fight to end up on a decision but it would be good to see if someone gets knocked out.Its true that it isnt really that bad to throw up some bucks on Fulton via decision considering those odds but just same as yours on which i would  really be focusing on putting bets on TKO by Inoue.
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It's sad to see the news that Inoue is injured. No estimated months means the injury is probably serious and training camp needs to stop. Unlucky as well for Fulton as the guy is grinding seriously to defend his belts. Maybe Fulton can take an easy tune-up to make his training camp worth it.

The original date would've been perfect to set up an undisputed match between the winners of Fulton-Inoue and Akhmadaliev-Tapales. This division is yet to get unified since the 4-belt era so hopefully, it will happen later this year or early next year. I am hoping for Marlon Tapales to score a big upset against Akhmadaliev.   

Per ESPN report, the bout will be rescheduled this summer and i did a little research on what months belong to summer and i found out it starts on June and ends in August so we have to wait again for a maximum of five months to witness this fight that one of the best that this sport can offer Smiley.

Yeah, we are not familiar with what summer means for the Japanese as it is obvious that we are very different from them, hehehe. So as others have said, tune up might do good for Fulton to make him busy, just get some tomato can fighter that he can face, low risk for him but at least his body and specially his mind is going to be active while waiting for Inoue to fully heal 100%.

Speaking of Tapales, i also hope that an upset will happen just like what happened this weekend when Gesta upsets Diaz.

Definitely support Tapales against Akhmadaliev, but Gesta last week proved that anything can happen in the right, even if you are like 6:1 or 8:1 underdog. Tapales can win this fight if he can time Akhmadaliev coming in, or a hard fought match, back and forth war. Both are coming from a long lay off, but we shall see who is the first one to shake that ring rust.
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according to ESPN news

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/35912571/sources-naoya-inoue-injured-bout-vs-stephen-fulton-ppd

the injury is not serious, but even espn is writing this based on sources, they didn't have information from Naoya Inoue's team from Naoya Inoue's real state, all they say is that he suffered injury, or the team is still doing tests to determine to what extent the injury can be serious or mild and for that reason the team prefers to just say that he suffered an injury or else Naoya Inoue's team already knows that the injury is serious and that Naoya Inoue may have to stay one good time to recover and the fight will have to take a long time to happen, but in order not to create disappointment in the fans they are hiding the truth

because from the moment they talk about postponing it for an indefinite period, it means that there is not even a forecast for the improvement of the injury for him to return to training and the fight can be held, in my opinion, Naoya Inoue may have suffered an injury that will leave a good time to recover, so we won't see his fight against Naoya Inoue anytime soon, in the ESPN article they talked about that they could fight again in the Japanese

The fight, which was set to be streamed on ESPN+ stateside, is being rescheduled for the summer in Japan, sources said.

when the press guys don't mention the source of the news it means that Naoya Inoue's team still doesn't want everyone to know what's really going on, so I don't think they'll reschedule it for the summer, it might take a lot longer to see this fight happen

Let's just be positive folks, I believe they've got enough reasons for not disclosing Inoue's condition for the time being but after the tests is done, I believe they will have their own statement whether this fight will be postponed or worse, cancelled. As of now, what we know is just the basics like Inoue is currently injured, no news how bad it is or if it's just a minor. Hopefully, it's not that serious so that even if it will be postponed, it will happened on their new projected date which is in Summer time in Japan.
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There could be some attractive odds for Inoue to win by KO or by Decision.



Of course a Fulton win by any other method is going to be high, but that's tough for him. But if we will go right now with a bet on Inoue, might be good by KO or by Decision. By KO because we all have seen the destructive power of Inoue and even if he is going up in weight, he might carry it with him. And if Fulton is really that tough not to crack for Inoue, he could also win by decision.

Fulton to win via decision is pretty decent, maybe I'll throw some few bucks on his favor. But my main bet is for Naoya Inoue to win via KO and not decision because that's just highly unlikely to me. Considering his past fights, regardless if the boxer is champion or not, he's got more wins via KO than decision and that's enough for me to believe that this fight will likely to end with the same outcome. KO @ 2.37 is frankly good enough.
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It's sad to see the news that Inoue is injured. No estimated months means the injury is probably serious and training camp needs to stop. Unlucky as well for Fulton as the guy is grinding seriously to defend his belts. Maybe Fulton can take an easy tune-up to make his training camp worth it.

The original date would've been perfect to set up an undisputed match between the winners of Fulton-Inoue and Akhmadaliev-Tapales. This division is yet to get unified since the 4-belt era so hopefully, it will happen later this year or early next year. I am hoping for Marlon Tapales to score a big upset against Akhmadaliev.   

Per ESPN report, the bout will be rescheduled this summer and i did a little research on what months belong to summer and i found out it starts on June and ends in August so we have to wait again for a maximum of five months to witness this fight that one of the best that this sport can offer Smiley.

Speaking of Tapales, i also hope that an upset will happen just like what happened this weekend when Gesta upsets Diaz.

Yeah, so still a very long waiting time for Fulton, and it's going to be lay-off already, and checking Fulton's record, his last fight is against Daniel Roman last June, so if the fight happen that summer, so it will be like more than a year for him.

So most likely he will go for a tune up fight I guess.

Boxers can't afford a long lay off like time, they have to keep themselves busy at least 6 months will do that. But in this case a year might not work for Fulton. Let's see if he will get an easy and tune up fight next month in replacement of Inoue.
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It's sad to see the news that Inoue is injured. No estimated months means the injury is probably serious and training camp needs to stop. Unlucky as well for Fulton as the guy is grinding seriously to defend his belts. Maybe Fulton can take an easy tune-up to make his training camp worth it.

The original date would've been perfect to set up an undisputed match between the winners of Fulton-Inoue and Akhmadaliev-Tapales. This division is yet to get unified since the 4-belt era so hopefully, it will happen later this year or early next year. I am hoping for Marlon Tapales to score a big upset against Akhmadaliev.   

Per ESPN report, the bout will be rescheduled this summer and i did a little research on what months belong to summer and i found out it starts on June and ends in August so we have to wait again for a maximum of five months to witness this fight that one of the best that this sport can offer Smiley.

Speaking of Tapales, i also hope that an upset will happen just like what happened this weekend when Gesta upsets Diaz.
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