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Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 37. (Read 7068 times)

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Reason why some are going to skip the fight because the odds are not worth it, or just bet on other boxing events.

But in any case, I think everyone wanted to see Inoue winning against Fulton and become a champion again.

The odds for Inoue are all worth it. Bookies are just trying to trick us here, but obviously Inoue will win this without a problem. The fact that it's over 2+ makes this an opportunity that should not be wasted, and I don't want to see people blaming themselves for not taking Inoue's odds this time. Actually, I'm thinking that as the fight approaches, the odds might change, so the opportunity is slowly decreasing.
Should we bet early or not?  Cheesy
I also am expecting a change in the odds but I don't see it will happen soon, maybe before fight night only.
3.05 versus 1.37 Inoue as the favorite. Almost like a trap. I wish they could make the bet for Fulton a little bit sweeter like he is indeed an underdog because most likely gambler will choose Inoue here over him and just take that 1.37 profit which is still decent. Not that I am underestimating Fulton but the hype is real for Inoue.
Do bookies ever balance this kind of thing whenever they see the bet for the favorite is overflowing? I mean, they won't make any profits if there are lesser gamblers who will take the risk for the underdog.
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Actually, I'm thinking that as the fight approaches, the odds might change, so the opportunity is slowly decreasing.

That's possible, but it's unlikely to happen, dude. Bookies calculate the possibility of outcomes before setting the odds. Maybe Inoue is just too hyped, which is why we thought the odds were surprising, as we were expecting lower odds. But we forgot that Inoue is the challenger, and it's his first fight after moving up, so there's still some uncertainty about him beating the champ.

Anyway, we can make our own speculations, and that will make the fight more interesting because lots of people are talking about it.
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Reason why some are going to skip the fight because the odds are not worth it, or just bet on other boxing events.

But in any case, I think everyone wanted to see Inoue winning against Fulton and become a champion again.

The odds for Inoue are all worth it. Bookies are just trying to trick us here, but obviously Inoue will win this without a problem. The fact that it's over 2+ makes this an opportunity that should not be wasted, and I don't want to see people blaming themselves for not taking Inoue's odds this time. Actually, I'm thinking that as the fight approaches, the odds might change, so the opportunity is slowly decreasing.
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Exactly. Bookies are still giving us some favors and we should thank this odds because they listed it this way, although it's somehow reasonable given that Inoue is not really a heavy favorite because Steph Fulton is still the champion here and has been on the weight class much longer while for Inoue, this is his first climb in his career and first time at 122. Inoue to win by a KO, count me in on this one.

It's not that bookies give us favors but that is really how it is supposed to be.

Bookies are weighed on their own set of factors on proving the odds, especially that option on the winning methods.

Still, I'm sure many bettors are still finding difficulty and it's hard to choose what those betting options are possible to happen.

That is correct, across all bookies, that will be the odds, no bookies will give you a different odds as gamblers play arbitrage. And it could be true as well that it's very hard to predict or bet on this one.

Reason why some are going to skip the fight because the odds are not worth it, or just bet on other boxing events.

But in any case, I think everyone wanted to see Inoue winning against Fulton and become a champion again.
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Exactly. Bookies are still giving us some favors and we should thank this odds because they listed it this way, although it's somehow reasonable given that Inoue is not really a heavy favorite because Steph Fulton is still the champion here and has been on the weight class much longer while for Inoue, this is his first climb in his career and first time at 122. Inoue to win by a KO, count me in on this one.

It's not that bookies give us favors but that is really how it is supposed to be.

Bookies are weighed on their own set of factors on proving the odds, especially that option on the winning methods.

Still, I'm sure many bettors are still finding difficulty and it's hard to choose what those betting options are possible to happen.
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Or should I say he hasn't faced a boxer who is as dominant as Inoue. We have our speculations, and I understand that most of us favor Inoue to win. Of course, it's not a no-brainer, but if the trend continues, Inoue might have a shot at taking Fulton's belt by knocking him out.

Maybe yes Maybe no. Fulton has a good opponent on his portfolio such as Brandon Figueroa who is no doubt one of the strong contenders in the super bantamweight and he is now in the Featherweight defeating Mark Magsayo recently.

Inoue on the other hand doesn't face yet a prime boxer that is of a high caliber. Maybe Donaire but already past his prime when Inoue faces him.

As for Inoue, he considered Stephen Fulton as the biggest challenge in his boxing career that's why I'm expecting him to be aggressive, as always.
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The odds for Inoue to win via KO isn't that low, actually a good option to bet if you're Inoue's fan.

However I just don't want to see an upset just like how Bivol did when he fight with Canelo, that's really unexpected and most people underestimating Bivol at that time. Still hard for me to predict the outcome, but maybe I will go for Fuiton in this fight since Inoue haven't prove anything in this weight.

If Inoue win in this fight, we can sure he will have no problem to fight with Murodjon Akhmadaliev for title unifications.

I would take the KO. This is a great opportunity for us bettors who believe Inoue will win, as we don't see these kinds of odds all the time. Although Inoue is heavily favored here, the odds for a KO are still high, so it's a no-brainer. We should not skip this one.

Exactly. Bookies are still giving us some favors and we should thank this odds because they listed it this way, although it's somehow reasonable given that Inoue is not really a heavy favorite because Steph Fulton is still the champion here and has been on the weight class much longer while for Inoue, this is his first climb in his career and first time at 122. Inoue to win by a KO, count me in on this one.
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As per Inoue:

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“My next goal is to move up in weight and once again become world champion,” Inoue noted of his upcoming pound-for-pound showdown with the unbeaten Philadelphia native. “I’m sure it will be the biggest challenge for me so far, since I will have to deal with issues related to my own physical frame.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-my-next-goal-again-become-world-champ-im-sure-it-biggest-challenge-me--173180

So he is taking this fight very serious and think that this is the biggest challenge for him. Because this is the first time that he will go up in weight and will be against the champion in Fulton. Good to hear that he is still down to earth and never talk trash his opponents and even doubting if he can deal with the moving up in weight at 122 lbs. Because we are all saying that not much of a different in weight and it could really benefit him as he don't need to weight drain. But he is questioning himself. Nevertheless, his power though, might be enough to stop Fulton later in the fight.

We cannot really expect Naoya Inoue to resort into trashtalks because aside from that's not his attitude, he still prefers to make a noise inside the ring and not before the fight.

Also, questioning himself and thinking of Fulton as his biggest challenge so far is a good sign. That means that he is not overconfident that he can conquer the champion and get his belts easily. IMO, I really see this as a good sign because Inoue is preparing for this fight more than what he prepared for his fight against Donaire way back and I expect that Inoue will again evolve into a different monster as that's what he is if he will fight a competitive opponent.
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The odds for Inoue to win via KO isn't that low, actually a good option to bet if you're Inoue's fan.

However I just don't want to see an upset just like how Bivol did when he fight with Canelo, that's really unexpected and most people underestimating Bivol at that time. Still hard for me to predict the outcome, but maybe I will go for Fuiton in this fight since Inoue haven't prove anything in this weight.

If Inoue win in this fight, we can sure he will have no problem to fight with Murodjon Akhmadaliev for title unifications.

I would take the KO. This is a great opportunity for us bettors who believe Inoue will win, as we don't see these kinds of odds all the time. Although Inoue is heavily favored here, the odds for a KO are still high, so it's a no-brainer. We should not skip this one.
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The odds for Inoue to win via KO isn't that low, actually a good option to bet if you're Inoue's fan.

However I just don't want to see an upset just like how Bivol did when he fight with Canelo, that's really unexpected and most people underestimating Bivol at that time. Still hard for me to predict the outcome, but maybe I will go for Fuiton in this fight since Inoue haven't prove anything in this weight.

If Inoue win in this fight, we can sure he will have no problem to fight with Murodjon Akhmadaliev for title unifications.
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As per Inoue:

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“My next goal is to move up in weight and once again become world champion,” Inoue noted of his upcoming pound-for-pound showdown with the unbeaten Philadelphia native. “I’m sure it will be the biggest challenge for me so far, since I will have to deal with issues related to my own physical frame.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-my-next-goal-again-become-world-champ-im-sure-it-biggest-challenge-me--173180

So he is taking this fight very serious and think that this is the biggest challenge for him. Because this is the first time that he will go up in weight and will be against the champion in Fulton. Good to hear that he is still down to earth and never talk trash his opponents and even doubting if he can deal with the moving up in weight at 122 lbs. Because we are all saying that not much of a different in weight and it could really benefit him as he don't need to weight drain. But he is questioning himself. Nevertheless, his power though, might be enough to stop Fulton later in the fight.

actually, there's no need of trash talking to sell out the fight. inoue's name is already popular in the boxing community. and from the looks of it, inoue is indeed taking this seriously, which is actually good as he will prepare for this fight and not take for granted about fulton's capability.. he is the challenger but the odds are in favour of him. if you will check out the odds in the winning method betting line, seems you will get a very good payout. but you can always check the combos, as the odds are going up until 81x, if you're lucky.



He doesn't trash talk because of the language barrier and probably their culture as well. They still need to sell the fight though, regardless if who is the favorite and who is not. It's good that he has established his name in the US soil that's why he is recognizable, because if he is just another Japanese fighter then we might not want to watch it.

Odds are really enticing for Fulton, but I don't know if he has the tools, maybe but it's going to be a big risk for us.
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actually, there's no need of trash talking to sell out the fight. inoue's name is already popular in the boxing community. and from the looks of it, inoue is indeed taking this seriously, which is actually good as he will prepare for this fight and not take for granted about fulton's capability.. he is the challenger but the odds are in favour of him. if you will check out the odds in the winning method betting line, seems you will get a very good payout.

Knowing Inoue and Fulton's characteristics, they do seem not a fan of trash-talking not unless will just counter a certain trash talk towards them.

I do admire those boxers that not respond to any trash talk but rather just do the talking in the actual fight.

Looking forward to an explosive between these two as it's like we should expect watching a Champion vs Champion fight.
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As per Inoue:

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“My next goal is to move up in weight and once again become world champion,” Inoue noted of his upcoming pound-for-pound showdown with the unbeaten Philadelphia native. “I’m sure it will be the biggest challenge for me so far, since I will have to deal with issues related to my own physical frame.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-my-next-goal-again-become-world-champ-im-sure-it-biggest-challenge-me--173180

So he is taking this fight very serious and think that this is the biggest challenge for him. Because this is the first time that he will go up in weight and will be against the champion in Fulton. Good to hear that he is still down to earth and never talk trash his opponents and even doubting if he can deal with the moving up in weight at 122 lbs. Because we are all saying that not much of a different in weight and it could really benefit him as he don't need to weight drain. But he is questioning himself. Nevertheless, his power though, might be enough to stop Fulton later in the fight.

actually, there's no need of trash talking to sell out the fight. inoue's name is already popular in the boxing community. and from the looks of it, inoue is indeed taking this seriously, which is actually good as he will prepare for this fight and not take for granted about fulton's capability.. he is the challenger but the odds are in favour of him. if you will check out the odds in the winning method betting line, seems you will get a very good payout. but you can always check the combos, as the odds are going up until 81x, if you're lucky.

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As per Inoue:

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“My next goal is to move up in weight and once again become world champion,” Inoue noted of his upcoming pound-for-pound showdown with the unbeaten Philadelphia native. “I’m sure it will be the biggest challenge for me so far, since I will have to deal with issues related to my own physical frame.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-my-next-goal-again-become-world-champ-im-sure-it-biggest-challenge-me--173180

So he is taking this fight very serious and think that this is the biggest challenge for him. Because this is the first time that he will go up in weight and will be against the champion in Fulton. Good to hear that he is still down to earth and never talk trash his opponents and even doubting if he can deal with the moving up in weight at 122 lbs. Because we are all saying that not much of a different in weight and it could really benefit him as he don't need to weight drain. But he is questioning himself. Nevertheless, his power though, might be enough to stop Fulton later in the fight.
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But like everyone else, I just hope that this fight will not end up being a boring one, as one fighter does not want to get KO, I'm talking about the champ.
Do you consider an one sided fight is boring? Cheesy if yes, this fight might be boring because Inoue will dominating inside the ring. For me when the fight is one sided it's still interesting to watch until the boxer fall down or his face is full of swollen. It's not interesting when the fight goes do distance and avoid to getting any punches, even though it's a strategy and there's nothing wrong, but it's not satisfying to watch.
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There is some factor to consider that will determine the result of the fight.  One is whether Fulton is able to absorb Inoue's punches.  If he do then we can see the fight go in a distance probably resulting to a decision.  Another factor is whether Inoue can withstand Fulton's punches.  If Inoue can't then the result might disappoint many viewers and millions of Inoue fans.

And we can only see that on their big night. I do hope that both pointers you have mentioned will be shown by both boxers.

I like to see this fight toe-to-toe to the point that no one can determine who will be the winner at the end until the final bell rings.

But as much as possible, I want to see this fight ending in a TKO regardless of who, but the whole fight is close. Really worth watching.

I'm glad to see another great fight coming up. I wish another unifications or any champions vs champions will be scheduled soon. As for this fight, the biggest question really is if Fulton can take Inoue's power punches which I believe will surely land in any rounds. It's 50/50 knowing how Fulton was surprisingly alive and was still kicking during his tough unification fight with Figueroa. Inoue though has the speed and timing which can catch Fulton unprepared for an incoming heavy punch. As for Fulton's capability of hurting Inoue, I doubt it. Fulton has a low KO ratio and hasn't even scored a single knockdown when he became a champion.

Which means Fulton is very careful as a champion, but I doubt it will work against Inoue. Inoue is quick and can adjust in the ring because he has a high IQ. Well, we are just speculating now, and most are in favor of Inoue. But like everyone else, I just hope that this fight will not end up being a boring one, as one fighter does not want to get KO, I'm talking about the champ.

Or should I say he hasn't faced a boxer who is as dominant as Inoue. We have our speculations, and I understand that most of us favor Inoue to win. Of course, it's not a no-brainer, but if the trend continues, Inoue might have a shot at taking Fulton's belt by knocking him out.
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There is some factor to consider that will determine the result of the fight.  One is whether Fulton is able to absorb Inoue's punches.  If he do then we can see the fight go in a distance probably resulting to a decision.  Another factor is whether Inoue can withstand Fulton's punches.  If Inoue can't then the result might disappoint many viewers and millions of Inoue fans.

And we can only see that on their big night. I do hope that both pointers you have mentioned will be shown by both boxers.

I like to see this fight toe-to-toe to the point that no one can determine who will be the winner at the end until the final bell rings.

But as much as possible, I want to see this fight ending in a TKO regardless of who, but the whole fight is close. Really worth watching.

I'm glad to see another great fight coming up. I wish another unifications or any champions vs champions will be scheduled soon. As for this fight, the biggest question really is if Fulton can take Inoue's power punches which I believe will surely land in any rounds. It's 50/50 knowing how Fulton was surprisingly alive and was still kicking during his tough unification fight with Figueroa. Inoue though has the speed and timing which can catch Fulton unprepared for an incoming heavy punch. As for Fulton's capability of hurting Inoue, I doubt it. Fulton has a low KO ratio and hasn't even scored a single knockdown when he became a champion.

Which means Fulton is very careful as a champion, but I doubt it will work against Inoue. Inoue is quick and can adjust in the ring because he has a high IQ. Well, we are just speculating now, and most are in favor of Inoue. But like everyone else, I just hope that this fight will not end up being a boring one, as one fighter does not want to get KO, I'm talking about the champ.
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There is some factor to consider that will determine the result of the fight.  One is whether Fulton is able to absorb Inoue's punches.  If he do then we can see the fight go in a distance probably resulting to a decision.  Another factor is whether Inoue can withstand Fulton's punches.  If Inoue can't then the result might disappoint many viewers and millions of Inoue fans.

And we can only see that on their big night. I do hope that both pointers you have mentioned will be shown by both boxers.

I like to see this fight toe-to-toe to the point that no one can determine who will be the winner at the end until the final bell rings.

But as much as possible, I want to see this fight ending in a TKO regardless of who, but the whole fight is close. Really worth watching.

I'm glad to see another great fight coming up. I wish another unifications or any champions vs champions will be scheduled soon. As for this fight, the biggest question really is if Fulton can take Inoue's power punches which I believe will surely land in any rounds. It's 50/50 knowing how Fulton was surprisingly alive and was still kicking during his tough unification fight with Figueroa. Inoue though has the speed and timing which can catch Fulton unprepared for an incoming heavy punch. As for Fulton's capability of hurting Inoue, I doubt it. Fulton has a low KO ratio and hasn't even scored a single knockdown when he became a champion.
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Fulton is the underdog in this match, so more than likely, that's his motivation to win on this fight.

Being an underdog as a motivation? No way Fulton will think of that as a Champion. He might even consider himself a Favorite as it's like how can you even feel like an underdog while you are the one holding the title and the challenger is coming for you regardless of its status. Fulton is not the type of boxer that will consider himself an underdog and take that as motivation. I don't find it makes sense. As a champion, he's there to show what he got.

The motivation for Fulton is not to think he's an underdog but defeating Inoue will open a big opportunity for his career. A big OPPORTUNITY!

Why not though? I mean if the betting public think that you can't win against the Monster then that is enough for you to prove them wrong. Just like other underdog who went and win in the past. Even if they are the champion but remain the underdog.

Of course boxers wanted to become the favorite in any fight, but if you like to motivate and inspire yourself in a fight, then maybe it's best that you think people are writing you off and then boom, win that fight and silent the crowd.
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Fulton is the underdog in this match, so more than likely, that's his motivation to win on this fight.

Being an underdog as a motivation? No way Fulton will think of that as a Champion. He might even consider himself a Favorite as it's like how can you even feel like an underdog while you are the one holding the title and the challenger is coming for you regardless of its status. Fulton is not the type of boxer that will consider himself an underdog and take that as motivation. I don't find it makes sense. As a champion, he's there to show what he got.

The motivation for Fulton is not to think he's an underdog but defeating Inoue will open a big opportunity for his career. A big OPPORTUNITY!
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