[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 40.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 12, 2023, 10:26:25 PM

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As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs.

I think Stephen Fulton is the only boxer as a dominant champion that Naoya Inoue will face for the first time in his career. Most of the time, Inoue defends his belts but this time he's the challenger. It's been also always a rare situation when we see a challenger as a Favorite and that's how strong Inoue is.

Fulton even as a champion is facing a tough wall to destroy. Can't wait to see them settling the score in the ring.

I think the odds should be lower than 1.37. There's little respect given to the champion, which is why the odds are quite high. However, I would take it as an opportunity since Inoue is a proven KO artist. He wouldn't be called the Monster for nothing. I am excited to see how Inoue will defeat the champion and become the reigning champion in this division. He might defend his title for a while before deciding to move up.

Respect has nothing to do with how the bookies provided their odds. It's just how bookies see the fight, then so be it.

Regardless of anything, Stephen Fulton has to do his very best in order to defeat the monster.

I'm sure he is really preparing for this really badly as he even skips moving up a weight to 126 just to face Inoue and settle the scores first.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 12, 2023, 10:26:25 PM

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As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs.

I think Stephen Fulton is the only boxer as a dominant champion that Naoya Inoue will face for the first time in his career. Most of the time, Inoue defends his belts but this time he's the challenger. It's been also always a rare situation when we see a challenger as a Favorite and that's how strong Inoue is.

Fulton even as a champion is facing a tough wall to destroy. Can't wait to see them settling the score in the ring.

I think the odds should be lower than 1.37. There's little respect given to the champion, which is why the odds are quite high. However, I would take it as an opportunity since Inoue is a proven KO artist. He wouldn't be called the Monster for nothing. I am excited to see how Inoue will defeat the champion and become the reigning champion in this division. He might defend his title for a while before deciding to move up.

Odds of 1.37 is indeed a respect for the champion which it wont really be that a bad spot for us bettors on cherishing out these numbers considering winning chance could really be high knowing Inoue.
It is really hard to make out conclusions for upcoming fights considering that results or outcomes could really be that different.This is why it is really still that on your own choice on which
one you would be picking.If ever Inoue would beat up Fulton then defending out his belt for this division might take time or else he would be rushing up on other divisions and trying out
to dominate but of course it wont be that easy.

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It might be a huge disappointment to us fans that we haven't got the chance to see the Crawford-Spence fight, at least they are still doing their part to make the other fights happen for us to enjoy. Like this fight, we are all expecting this to happen and fortunately, Al Haymon didn't interfere as Fulton is his cow.

And one of the said reasons why the Crawford-Spence fight didn't materialize is that Crawford was a free agent and don't have a big promoter company that will handle business and negotiations against the big promotional company that Spence is currently under contract.

Sad to see Crawford end up fighting against not that ranked boxers just to keep him active in the ring after being parted with the Top Rank Promotions. Here in Fulton vs Inoue fight, it's good to see that this fight was organized and boxing politics did not take place between the 2 big promoters.

Might be but I believe that even with Bob Arum's help, the fight won't still materialize because Al Haymon didn't have any plan at all to make the fight happen and that means even if Bob and Crawford will give as low as 30% slice of the purse just to push the fight, it's still not happening. Not day, not ever because they are afraid of Crawford's skill because if they aren't, they could've pursued Crawford first and Ugas last for him to be the undisputed champion.

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Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.

A big recognition indeed for Stephen Fulton if he managed to beat Naoya Inoue.

But I won't call it an upset but rather just a win on usual.

Fulton might be the underdog but I'm sure he will give Inoue a tough fight in his career.

I agree, if Fulton defeats Inoue I would not consider it an upset, after all he is the champion and we know that he is a good boxer, an upset is something like what we saw on the Ruiz vs Joshua fight, in which Ruiz against all odds defeated Joshua and did so convincingly, in fact that result was so unexpected it was one of the biggest upsets ever on the history of boxing and some casinos even reported some losses from that fight due to the unexpected outcome.

C'mon mate, if that is the case then we should let Steph Fulton receive all the praises and credits because even if he's the champion, it is and has been a challenge even for him to beat up someone like Naoya Inoue and that is why he deserves all of it. Let's refrain from shorting him for what he deserves because still, it can be called an upset because he is the underdog in this fight.

I mean, just like the Canelo-Bivol fight. Why would we call it as upset if Bivol was already the champion at that division, mainly because he was also an underdog that time despite the fact that he is the champion of LHW, just like Fulton's situation now.

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Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.

A big recognition indeed for Stephen Fulton if he managed to beat Naoya Inoue.

But I won't call it an upset but rather just a win on usual.

Fulton might be the underdog but I'm sure he will give Inoue a tough fight in his career.

I agree, if Fulton defeats Inoue I would not consider it an upset, after all he is the champion and we know that he is a good boxer, an upset is something like what we saw on the Ruiz vs Joshua fight, in which Ruiz against all odds defeated Joshua and did so convincingly, in fact that result was so unexpected it was one of the biggest upsets ever on the history of boxing and some casinos even reported some losses from that fight due to the unexpected outcome.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 05:16:24 PM

As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs.

I think Stephen Fulton is the only boxer as a dominant champion that Naoya Inoue will face for the first time in his career. Most of the time, Inoue defends his belts but this time he's the challenger. It's been also always a rare situation when we see a challenger as a Favorite and that's how strong Inoue is.

Fulton even as a champion is facing a tough wall to destroy. Can't wait to see them settling the score in the ring.

I think the odds should be lower than 1.37. There's little respect given to the champion, which is why the odds are quite high. However, I would take it as an opportunity since Inoue is a proven KO artist. He wouldn't be called the Monster for nothing. I am excited to see how Inoue will defeat the champion and become the reigning champion in this division. He might defend his title for a while before deciding to move up.

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Quote from: harizen on March 12, 2023, 06:57:49 PM

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Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.

A big recognition indeed for Stephen Fulton if he managed to beat Naoya Inoue.

But I won't call it an upset but rather just a win on usual.

Fulton might be the underdog but I'm sure he will give Inoue a tough fight in his career.

And besides, he's the current champ and the recognition will remain the same aside from the fact that it is Inoue, and we all know
who's the guy was and what's the capability that he can do.

But in the side of Fulton, he deserves everything once he successfully defends his belt from the Monster challenger, it will be an interesting and exiting match for sure.

Placing some spare for whoever you think will win will add some real fun while watching the fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 05:16:24 PM

As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs.

I think Stephen Fulton is the only boxer as a dominant champion that Naoya Inoue will face for the first time in his career. Most of the time, Inoue defends his belts but this time he's the challenger. It's been also always a rare situation when we see a challenger as a Favorite and that's how strong Inoue is.

Fulton even as a champion is facing a tough wall to destroy. Can't wait to see them settling the score in the ring.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 12, 2023, 04:31:11 PM

Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.

A big recognition indeed for Stephen Fulton if he managed to beat Naoya Inoue.

But I won't call it an upset but rather just a win on usual.

Fulton might be the underdog but I'm sure he will give Inoue a tough fight in his career.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 12, 2023, 10:25:23 AM

Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?

2 pages back, @inthelongrun has posted the official date already, and the OP has acknowledge it but perhaps to just update the title of the thread.

As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs. He just tear up that division, knockout Donaire and then gets the last of the belt against Butler with another knockout win as well. This might be a new division for him, but it just just 4 lbs of his last weight class so we don't see any problem and on the contrary, it might help him a lot because he doesn't have to weight drain himself trying to make the weight. And it will be in his native Japan, so Fulton will have to travel and put his belt on the line against the Monster, which could be a difficult task.

And so far the odds are per Stake:

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Quote from: Botnake on March 12, 2023, 10:25:23 AM

Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?

I never rule out an upset provided that the one that upset the favorite guy has a 50 to 60% knock-out ratio, Fulton's KOs ratio is 38.1% and against a guy who eats up power punches from the likes of Donaire the probability is just too low, he can be fast and had a lot of punch combination and movement in the ring but once Inoue invested on the stomach that will be the start of the end.
Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.

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Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?

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There's a exact date already on this particular fight.

Maybe OP can edit the thread title and add the specific fight date.

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Quote from: Heartilly on March 11, 2023, 04:52:28 PM

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I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it

It's not that promoters are the only ones to blame why we see failed negotiations of some of the most failed anticipated fights that are being looked forward to witness by most boxing fans. Sometimes, the boxer themselves is doing a clear ducking and will just consider fighting depending on what they think is the right time.

Lots of expected fights already were expected to happen during the peak but just happened later on which is not totally exciting anymore.

Notable examples are, Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Canelo vs GGG trilogy, Crawford vs Spence, and many more.

No one is to blame here. In order for a fight to be realized, both parties and the promoters must agree to the terms and conditions. If one party does not agree, then the fight is not going to happen. That is why there is a contract that they must follow. Also, since their negotiations are confidential, if we blame someone, we are just speculating.

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Quote from: Kasabus on March 11, 2023, 04:01:07 PM

I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it

It's not that promoters are the only ones to blame why we see failed negotiations of some of the most failed anticipated fights that are being looked forward to witness by most boxing fans. Sometimes, the boxer themselves is doing a clear ducking and will just consider fighting depending on what they think is the right time.

Lots of expected fights already were expected to happen during the peak but just happened later on which is not totally exciting anymore.

Notable examples are, Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Canelo vs GGG trilogy, Crawford vs Spence, and many more.

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Quote from: Kasabus on March 11, 2023, 04:01:07 PM

It might be a huge disappointment to us fans that we haven't got the chance to see the Crawford-Spence fight, at least they are still doing their part to make the other fights happen for us to enjoy. Like this fight, we are all expecting this to happen and fortunately, Al Haymon didn't interfere as Fulton is his cow.

And one of the said reasons why the Crawford-Spence fight didn't materialize is that Crawford was a free agent and don't have a big promoter company that will handle business and negotiations against the big promotional company that Spence is currently under contract.

Sad to see Crawford end up fighting against not that ranked boxers just to keep him active in the ring after being parted with the Top Rank Promotions. Here in Fulton vs Inoue fight, it's good to see that this fight was organized and boxing politics did not take place between the 2 big promoters.

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Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight.

In fairness though, these big promoters are the reason why some mega-big bouts also happened. Without their strong influence and expertise in the boxing market industry, they can't organize big fights. At some point though, They are also the reason why some popular boxers today reach the stage of being the highest-paid boxer and always in a title match.

Since business is associated with building a legacy of a boxer, we can't just expect our desired fight to just happened and be organized that easily.

We don't like some of the promoter's actions but let's face it, nothing we can do about it.

I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it and just prefer to be updated later on if what happened as almost everything will be connected especially in the future fights.

It might be a huge disappointment to us fans that we haven't got the chance to see the Crawford-Spence fight, at least they are still doing their part to make the other fights happen for us to enjoy. Like this fight, we are all expecting this to happen and fortunately, Al Haymon didn't interfere as Fulton is his cow.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 11, 2023, 09:58:46 AM

Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight.

In fairness though, these big promoters are the reason why some mega-big bouts also happened. Without their strong influence and expertise in the boxing market industry, they can't organize big fights. At some point though, They are also the reason why some popular boxers today reach the stage of being the highest-paid boxer and always in a title match.

Since business is associated with building a legacy of a boxer, we can't just expect our desired fight to just happened and be organized that easily.

We don't like some of the promoter's actions but let's face it, nothing we can do about it.

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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means
that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment.
Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.

Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe.

I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled.

It's just 4 pounds to be exact and I reckon that the weight difference is the least of their problem for now because if that is the case then I bet we are already hearing some news about it. There's two ways, first is he might add to his weight to become more buffed and there's no need to add because 122 is his original and natural weight. Frankly that's one the reasons why Inoue had to leave 118 because knew that the time will come where Inoue is not anymore fitting at 118.

Well it can be muscle mass or just water weight, all Inoue will do is drink water and that's it, won't be a problem for him making weight. And with that it will be his advantage to be real, as there will be no problems on his side making 122 lbs.

And then once he is fully rehydrated, all the leverage and power will be in full display here.

So no need to be concern on his weight at super bantamweight.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 11, 2023, 07:20:55 AM

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Quote from: Quidat on March 10, 2023, 06:59:17 PM

We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means
that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment.
Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.

Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe.

I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled.

It's just 4 pounds to be exact and I reckon that the weight difference is the least of their problem for now because if that is the case then I bet we are already hearing some news about it. There's two ways, first is he might add to his weight to become more buffed and there's no need to add because 122 is his original and natural weight. Frankly that's one the reasons why Inoue had to leave 118 because knew that the time will come where Inoue is not anymore fitting at 118.

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