[Boxing]: Stevenson vs De Los Santos - Nov 16 - page 4.

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And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

No big-name opponent because he can't get one, everyone is ducking him and so only De los Santos was willing maybe because he is not a American fighter. And this is why he is dangerous and Stevenson knows it.

Let's wait and see because, to be honest, I haven't seen Shakur struggle in any of his fights. All of his wins seem to come from relatively easy matchups. Considering the quality of De Los Santos, which seems like a step down from Martin, it would indeed be an upset if he manages to beat Shakur.

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I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

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Quote from: stadus on October 20, 2023, 08:57:19 AM

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And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

No big-name opponent because he can't get one, everyone is ducking him and so only De los Santos was willing maybe because he is not a American fighter. And this is why he is dangerous and Stevenson knows it.

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

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Quote from: stadus on October 20, 2023, 08:57:19 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 20, 2023, 07:14:26 AM

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

Right, although Shakur is a great boxer and potentially a legend, he somewhat like Crawford, he had a hard time filling up the seats unless the fight is going to be in his hometown, as compare to the likes of Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia, they know how to sell their fights because of their style and their social media following.

And perhaps that is what Shakur is trying to built up, creating buzz so that more people are willing to watch his fight and so he will be a PPV star in the future. So he needs to trash talk, and hitting two birds with one stone with that statement, against Frank Martin and then hyping Edwin De Los Santos as worthy opponent for him.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 20, 2023, 07:14:26 AM

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

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And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

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Another good card is added to this fight, Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

I went through the records of Robson Conceicao, who is from Brazil. He has 17 wins and only 8 KOs among those wins. Additionally, he's not undefeated, so he seems like a significant downgrade from Navarrete's previous opponent. This will be an opportunity to see how Navarrete works his way to secure an impressive win. I haven't seen the fight highlights of Conceicao yet, but judging from his record, I'd say there isn't much to expect from him.

Hopefully, he'll manage to pull off a surprise.

Yes, he might be a downgrade to what Navarette previously face, which is Oscar Valdez. Oscar already beat Robson, but it was really very close fight. But it will still be a good challenge for Navarette as he almost clean up the 130 lbs division already.

And who knows, he might move up to 135 lbs, in which his fight is the undercard on Shakur Stevenson. And as we all know it, Shakur also moved up to 135 lbs and trying to become a champion. Maybe this two will have to fight it out at 135 lbs in Navarette has no challenge anymore at 130 lbs.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 14, 2023, 10:12:40 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 14, 2023, 09:58:26 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 14, 2023, 09:10:04 PM

Another good card is added to this fight, Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

I went through the records of Robson Conceicao, who is from Brazil. He has 17 wins and only 8 KOs among those wins. Additionally, he's not undefeated, so he seems like a significant downgrade from Navarrete's previous opponent. This will be an opportunity to see how Navarrete works his way to secure an impressive win. I haven't seen the fight highlights of Conceicao yet, but judging from his record, I'd say there isn't much to expect from him.

Hopefully, he'll manage to pull off a surprise.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 14, 2023, 09:58:26 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 14, 2023, 09:10:04 PM

Another good card is added to this fight, Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 14, 2023, 09:10:04 PM

Another good card is added to this fight, Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

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Another good card is added to this fight, Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

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And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

You can hear and understand, M**F***, Lol. For sure, he thinks that he as a good chance to win against Shakur Stevenson. However, boxing fans knows that Shakur is the real deal as many at 135 lbs are avoiding him right now. And it just so happen the De Los Santos, is available and he is open to anyone, but he could be swallowing more than he can chew here. Anyhow, the 135 lbs still has the unified champion in Devin Haney, and hopefully he will come back in this division so that him and Shakur could fight. Although Devin Haney has move up to 140 lbs and fight the champion in Regis Prograis, but he recently said in any interview that he is willing to go back to this division and defend his belt, so we will see how it goes for Shakur

I would be happy for him to think that he could beat Shakur, as this could maintain his high confidence. We enjoy entertainment, and we certainly don't want to see a boxer fighting just to survive. With Shakur's quickness, De Los Santos might easily become frustrated and careless in the ring. However, since Shakur is a very clever fighter, he won't take high risks trying to knock down his opponent. He'll slowly wear down his opponent, and that's what we are likely to witness.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 11, 2023, 08:01:39 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:31:17 AM

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

You can hear and understand, M**F***, Lol. For sure, he thinks that he as a good chance to win against Shakur Stevenson. However, boxing fans knows that Shakur is the real deal as many at 135 lbs are avoiding him right now. And it just so happen the De Los Santos, is available and he is open to anyone, but he could be swallowing more than he can chew here. Anyhow, the 135 lbs still has the unified champion in Devin Haney, and hopefully he will come back in this division so that him and Shakur could fight. Although Devin Haney has move up to 140 lbs and fight the champion in Regis Prograis, but he recently said in any interview that he is willing to go back to this division and defend his belt, so we will see how it goes for Shakur

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:31:17 AM

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

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And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

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I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

Shakur really believes in himself, you know. His confidence is sky-high, so I'm pretty sure he'll make sure he's in tip-top shape and ready for any fight that comes his way. As for his opponent, well, in my opinion, De Los Santos doesn't seem all that threatening. Sure, he might have some power, but when it comes down to pure boxing skills, Shakur is the boss in that ring. Not that he'll finish the fight easily, but he has this knack for frustrating his opponent. He's got that Mayweather-style strategy, you know, all about defense, but it works like a charm. Of course, some folks find that kind of fight a bit on the boring side.

Yeah, it seems that Shakur is really very confident right now and looking for a great competition. And with that he should be very excited that at least someone is willing to face him and so he will prepare everything against De Los Santos and won't overestimated this guy. Maybe we are seeing some breed of boxers that really copy Floyd's style when they are growing up. Boxers like Shakur and Devin Haney, or even Tank Davis. All this boxers might have learn from watching Floyd's fighting style. I say it's not that bad though to play defense. But majority of the fans wanted to see real action in the ring, like going toe to toe and not much of a running. Alhough Shakur has power as well, specially he is a good body puncher and could knockout his opponent with his body punch.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 14, 2023, 03:35:29 PM

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

Shakur really believes in himself, you know. His confidence is sky-high, so I'm pretty sure he'll make sure he's in tip-top shape and ready for any fight that comes his way. As for his opponent, well, in my opinion, De Los Santos doesn't seem all that threatening. Sure, he might have some power, but when it comes down to pure boxing skills, Shakur is the boss in that ring. Not that he'll finish the fight easily, but he has this knack for frustrating his opponent. He's got that Mayweather-style strategy, you know, all about defense, but it works like a charm. Of course, some folks find that kind of fight a bit on the boring side.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 14, 2023, 03:35:29 PM

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

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Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:

everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

The best he's got is a chance? Haha, so you're saying he still won't win, huh? That's pretty straightforward, man. Well, judging by the betting odds, it looks like Shakur would probably treat De Los Santos like an amateur boxer. On paper, they're just not on the same level.

In a fight, I always believe that both fighters have a chance to win. Doesn’t matter how one-sided it looks on paper. I know a lot of people are not going to do with me. But I am basically putting myself on the shoes of Santos.

I am thinking if I was him, I would have taken any positives going into this fight. I would have definitely tried to not think about what everyone is saying, and believe that I have a genuine chance to win this fight. But as soon as I put myself in a position of a neutral viewer, I end up, thinking that Shakur is going to win this fight, and there is almost no chance for him to lose against Santos.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on October 05, 2023, 12:26:28 PM

Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:

everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

The best he's got is a chance? Haha, so you're saying he still won't win, huh? That's pretty straightforward, man. Well, judging by the betting odds, it looks like Shakur would probably treat De Los Santos like an amateur boxer. On paper, they're just not on the same level.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on October 04, 2023, 12:36:01 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on October 04, 2023, 09:24:06 AM

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

I understand your point, but you have to look not on Shakur but his opponents. Have you heard of De Los Santos name though before this fight? I will honestly say that I never heard his name prior to this fight. And although he has a good record and we can't take that away from him. But as we have said, Shakur talent is above the rest of this division, he is not a champion yet, but it seems that the division has been shaken when Shakur goes up in weight class. Devin Haney became a champion in recess? LOL, goes up at 140 lbs and avoid Stevenson at all cost. And then supposedly Frank Martin, the next hype at this weight class suddenly back up on his words and doesn't want any of Shakur. And the other champion in WBA in Gervonta Davis, is quiet, we don't even hear Davis talking about Shakur to be his next opponent, or even mentioning Stevenson's name in his interviews.

Well, things do look like they are in favour of Shakur. And why won't they be? There is a reason why nobody wants to face him. I absolutely agree with you. Even though I do think that the opponent of Shakur does have a chance, it is most probably going to be Shakur who will be able to win this fight.

Quote from: Sanitough on October 05, 2023, 07:39:47 AM

I think anyone can answer this, and the majority would agree that Stevenson will win. Of course, every opponent of Shakur has a good game plan until they taste Stevenson's punches and get tired chasing him. Even bookies would agree; as of now, the current betting odds suggest that Stevenson will win with an 80% to 90% probability.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Shakur Stevenson -800
Edwin De Los Santos +475

Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:

everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

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