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Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 31. (Read 9123 times)

legendary
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I speculate that this very bad incident for Casimero will certainly lower his chance to get a contract to fight Naoye Inoue unless he wins all the other championships in their weight division. It will be very hard to promote and market Inoue vs. Casimero to the public after this alleged sexual misconduct. How many championships does Inoue do not presently hold?

He is not yet guilty, and there's still no warrant the thing is still under investigation, Casimero will need to answer the accusation and if there's probable cause then there will be a case, he can hire a very good lawyer to defend him and since this is not a rape case and bailable he can still fight Inoue, we all know he is still innocent until proven guilty.

This is very right, we cannot judge him, just because there's negative news about him, we easily make a conclusion that he is guilty. you know, Casimero is a celebrity already, he has the money and maybe some sees it as an opportunity to get money from him.

We should need to look at both sides. If there's proof that Casimero is liable in that case, even we idolize him, we should accept the fact that he is not a good example. However, it seems that the case is running slowly. Not saying there is someone controlling it but Casimero's camp can just easily show proof to remove every person's doubt.

A case like this should not be a distraction for him.
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Why did the discussion turn mostly into his blogging activity? Cheesy

Anyhow, let's just allow him to do what he wants.

Moving forward, there are no updates yet about the case filed against him just recently but he already responded that those are not true. It's good that he put a statement right away as people, especially on Facebook, already criticizing him and calling it "karma".
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Casimero is the heavy favorite to win the fight it's been a long time since he lose a fight but this particular fight is very much different from all the fights, because of the many issues that he's facing, lack of support from his promoters, a charge of molestation and frustration of not getting big fights, he will be tested here and hopefully he can come out with a good win here.

He boastfully said that he doesn't need good practice to win this match against Butler. He sees his challenger is not even a threat. Cheesy

I don't see those distractions will really affect him.

He should prove his arrogance by winning on the day of the fight. Smiley
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With regards to his upcoming fight, I know he’s already preparing for this and getting himself in a good condition to avoid that health issue again. Butler should be more prepared here, he’s the challenger and I’m sure Casimero wont let him to win this fight easily.

Casimero is the heavy favorite to win the fight it's been a long time since he lose a fight but this particular fight is very much different from all the fights, because of the many issues that he's facing, lack of support from his promoters, a charge of molestation and frustration of not getting big fights, he will be tested here and hopefully he can come out with a good win here.
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Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.

Same here, not a fan of his vlog content but i do watch updates on his vlogs because i wanna know what's the update of his training so we can decide in advance if he deserves our bets lol.

Good thing that he is training now but i am skeptical as he still did not show who is his strength and conditioning coach as this plays a vital role on his training. Jogging and sparring in the gym is one thing, the other is he should watch what he eats.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.
It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
As a boxer or fighter then you wouldn't really be having anything in mind but to win up and its true that balancing off things is important not only in talks solely on his career but also in other aspects in life

as well.No ones business if he would make out some vlogs about his life or something like that since people aren't forced up to look or watch about his content.If you don't like it or its out of your interest
then fine but if you do like to see then you do always have that choice of yours to be made.What matter most here is that he should win up on every fight that he would be fighting on.
That’s his personal choice and we should not focus on his blogging, its normal nowadays where you can see a lot of celebrities and boxers are into blogging, because there’s a money there as well.

With regards to his upcoming fight, I know he’s already preparing for this and getting himself in a good condition to avoid that health issue again. Butler should be more prepared here, he’s the challenger and I’m sure Casimero wont let him to win this fight easily.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.
It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
As a boxer or fighter then you wouldn't really be having anything in mind but to win up and its true that balancing off things is important not only in talks solely on his career but also in other aspects in life

as well.No ones business if he would make out some vlogs about his life or something like that since people aren't forced up to look or watch about his content.If you don't like it or its out of your interest
then fine but if you do like to see then you do always have that choice of yours to be made.What matter most here is that he should win up on every fight that he would be fighting on.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.
It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.
It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.

This guy does not have a million followers but over 300K followers is already big enough.
Look at his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

Most of my following are from fighters with million of followers, so just like you, I also don't follow him but we are lucky enough we have a community which gives an updated information regarding him, may it be a rumor or real news, it still helps.

That's normal because vlogging is not his normal job, he is a boxer and despite that less than a million followers, I'm sure he is also making money from his youtube channel. So while he is having fun, giving us fans an update, at the same time he can monetize his channel, what a wise man.

He has a lot to content towards his daily activities so its a wise  decision to create his own channel so that he can earn with views together with he can also update his fans on what he do everyday. I'm not always watching he's vlog but sometimes it pops up on my news feed and I'm checking it to see some good updates or for little entertainment.
Some do make out vlogging whether its personal kind of sharing or preference but most likely this would be talking for side income. What you think? I checked out the link above and he do really
get some good number of subscribers and having that considerable views per day which he's been that active in showing off his routine but they arent dumb on showing their
true or complete training routine for sure.We do know about those limits and things that needs to be hidden.
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Maybe because you have subscribed to his channel.

Not really interested in watching his vlog though, but I admit, this guy is fun to watch sometimes.
With the coming fight and lots of controversy surrounding him, I hope he will be able to survive and will still win impressively.

Do you know why I want that for him? Because I'm desperate to see an Inoue vs Casimero fight.

I am not aware that this man has a youtube channel LOL, I am a fan but I'm not interested watching his vlogs too. I am more focus to look him inside the ring because that's what his strength are. Though I made a quick visit on his channel there's a few videos hope he monetize his channel engagements already and could help him through his and his family needs. But for now, I don't he needs to use his energy in the recent issue he has been engaged because boxing fans are waiting to see him fighting again..
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.

This guy does not have a million followers but over 300K followers is already big enough.
Look at his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

Most of my following are from fighters with million of followers, so just like you, I also don't follow him but we are lucky enough we have a community which gives an updated information regarding him, may it be a rumor or real news, it still helps.

That's normal because vlogging is not his normal job, he is a boxer and despite that less than a million followers, I'm sure he is also making money from his youtube channel. So while he is having fun, giving us fans an update, at the same time he can monetize his channel, what a wise man.

He has a lot to content towards his daily activities so its a wise  decision to create his own channel so that he can earn with views together with he can also update his fans on what he do everyday. I'm not always watching he's vlog but sometimes it pops up on my news feed and I'm checking it to see some good updates or for little entertainment.

Maybe because you have subscribed to his channel.

Not really interested in watching his vlog though, but I admit, this guy is fun to watch sometimes.
With the coming fight and lots of controversy surrounding him, I hope he will be able to survive and will still win impressively.

Do you know why I want that for him? Because I'm desperate to see an Inoue vs Casimero fight.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.

This guy does not have a million followers but over 300K followers is already big enough.
Look at his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

Most of my following are from fighters with million of followers, so just like you, I also don't follow him but we are lucky enough we have a community which gives an updated information regarding him, may it be a rumor or real news, it still helps.

That's normal because vlogging is not his normal job, he is a boxer and despite that less than a million followers, I'm sure he is also making money from his youtube channel. So while he is having fun, giving us fans an update, at the same time he can monetize his channel, what a wise man.

He has a lot to content towards his daily activities so its a wise  decision to create his own channel so that he can earn with views together with he can also update his fans on what he do everyday. I'm not always watching he's vlog but sometimes it pops up on my news feed and I'm checking it to see some good updates or for little entertainment.
hero member
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.

This guy does not have a million followers but over 300K followers is already big enough.
Look at his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

Most of my following are from fighters with million of followers, so just like you, I also don't follow him but we are lucky enough we have a community which gives an updated information regarding him, may it be a rumor or real news, it still helps.

That's normal because vlogging is not his normal job, he is a boxer and despite that less than a million followers, I'm sure he is also making money from his youtube channel. So while he is having fun, giving us fans an update, at the same time he can monetize his channel, what a wise man.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.

This guy does not have a million followers but over 300K followers is already big enough.
Look at his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

Most of my following are from fighters with million of followers, so just like you, I also don't follow him but we are lucky enough we have a community which gives an updated information regarding him, may it be a rumor or real news, it still helps.
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I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
Same here, I'm not watching his vlog too, I only like to watch him when he has a big fight, and I don't usually follow his life outside the ring. Well, I hope he will be able to solve this problem, just like Manny when he was distracted, he cannot focus and lose in the fight, I hope it will not happen to him.
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The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation.

If there's no real problem at his side, that won't affect him from his current training. He is surely comfortable since he knows that the case is just an attempt to distract him. If his inner self, telling him that the case is somehow real, that's the time he will feel distracted.

Casimero already denies the allegation. If he's sure about that, then everything, from training to conditioning, should be good.
Yeah, if it's just a distraction and made on timing and purpose of disturbing him for his title defense. Then, he'll just leave it ignored and hanging. And if it's from him and there's not sufficient evidence then that only means that there's nothing to worry about by him.
Well, as we're guessing, that's making us worry, and if he's the one that's telling there's no need to worry. That means that we as fans shouldn't worry as well. Any update about his training and how he's doing? I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.
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I speculate that this very bad incident for Casimero will certainly lower his chance to get a contract to fight Naoye Inoue unless he wins all the other championships in their weight division. It will be very hard to promote and market Inoue vs. Casimero to the public after this alleged sexual misconduct. How many championships does Inoue do not presently hold?

He is not yet guilty, and there's still no warrant the thing is still under investigation, Casimero will need to answer the accusation and if there's probable cause then there will be a case, he can hire a very good lawyer to defend him and since this is not a rape case and bailable he can still fight Inoue, we all know he is still innocent until proven guilty.

This is very right, we cannot judge him, just because there's negative news about him, we easily make a conclusion that he is guilty. you know, Casimero is a celebrity already, he has the money and maybe some sees it as an opportunity to get money from him.
hero member
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I speculate that this very bad incident for Casimero will certainly lower his chance to get a contract to fight Naoye Inoue unless he wins all the other championships in their weight division. It will be very hard to promote and market Inoue vs. Casimero to the public after this alleged sexual misconduct. How many championships does Inoue do not presently hold?

He is not yet guilty, and there's still no warrant the thing is still under investigation, Casimero will need to answer the accusation and if there's probable cause then there will be a case, he can hire a very good lawyer to defend him and since this is not a rape case and bailable he can still fight Inoue, we all know he is still innocent until proven guilty.
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I have nothing to say about how long the process will take, my point is that the judge should be fair.

In the Philippines, it will take forever, especially if the accused has enough money to fight for the case. However, this is not good for him if there's enough evidence to convince him, it's better to settle it the soonest so the problem will not get worst and will not distract his training.

I don't think that Casimero will have the financial to fight this case so that it will be prolong. He is one of those boxers who is also a rag to riches story like Manny is. However, he may have to contact powerful personality to convince the girl to drop the charges in exchange of huge amount of money and they can go on with their lives.

Casimero doesn't need much money or financial needs to handle this case because he is not yet guilty as of now, other than that, I bet that his team would just allow that to happen especially the MP Promotions because Casimero is one of their best boxers. So, if Casimero is convicted that would mean that the MP Promotions have lost one of their cash cow.

This is one of the troubles of having money and fame, I don't know the real score if it is a setup then the victim will demand big money from Casimero, if this issue is ironed up I hope he learns his lesson that he needs a good company or behave so that he will not attract the same scenario again, this kind of issue will hinder his road to greatness.

Yup and it is quite common now, lot of athletes and actors/actress have already experienced the same scenario as Casimero now. Scammers have also leveled up to keep up with the time especially now in the middle of pandemic, that is also why Casimero and the likes need to be more cautious on their environment because we know that these kind of people are lurking everywhere.
As for Casimero, I hope that he could get this done as fast as they could so that there will be no hindrance while he is on his way to fight Butler and yes hope he learned his lesson on this one.
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