Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 32. (Read 9123 times)
February 26, 2022, 12:31:34 AM
I speculate that this very bad incident for Casimero will certainly lower his chance to get a contract to fight Naoye Inoue unless he wins all the other championships in their weight division. It will be very hard to promote and market Inoue vs. Casimero to the public after this alleged sexual misconduct. How many championships does Inoue do not presently hold?
February 26, 2022, 12:15:52 AM
The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation.
If there's no real problem at his side, that won't affect him from his current training. He is surely comfortable since he knows that the case is just an attempt to distract him. If his inner self, telling him that the case is somehow real, that's the time he will feel distracted.
Casimero already denies the allegation. If he's sure about that, then everything, from training to conditioning, should be good.
I want to agree, but this fighter are just human, so I would say maybe it will have a impact on him but he is not showing it in reality. Look at Ryan Garcia, he was supposedly fight someone, then he said that he will postponed it because he has mental issues. So there's this part that we don't see with boxers. They may hide their emotions, but at the end of. the day, they are going to think of the situation that might haunt them in their fights or future. So we can't say for certain that he is comfortable right now in the States.
We will eventually see that in the fight, it's time for Casimero to prove that he has no problem and he is focused on defending his belt. you are right, we are just human but they are professionals and they know what they are doing, besides, their promotor and trainers knows the real status, they would not allow a fighter to be in the ring with mental or physical health problem.
February 25, 2022, 08:06:06 PM
The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation.
If there's no real problem at his side, that won't affect him from his current training. He is surely comfortable since he knows that the case is just an attempt to distract him. If his inner self, telling him that the case is somehow real, that's the time he will feel distracted.
Casimero already denies the allegation. If he's sure about that, then everything, from training to conditioning, should be good.
I want to agree, but this fighter are just human, so I would say maybe it will have a impact on him but he is not showing it in reality. Look at Ryan Garcia, he was supposedly fight someone, then he said that he will postponed it because he has mental issues. So there's this part that we don't see with boxers. They may hide their emotions, but at the end of. the day, they are going to think of the situation that might haunt them in their fights or future. So we can't say for certain that he is comfortable right now in the States.
February 25, 2022, 06:58:32 PM
The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation.
If there's no real problem at his side, that won't affect him from his current training. He is surely comfortable since he knows that the case is just an attempt to distract him. If his inner self, telling him that the case is somehow real, that's the time he will feel distracted.
Casimero already denies the allegation. If he's sure about that, then everything, from training to conditioning, should be good.
February 25, 2022, 06:57:34 PM
Everything is under investigation and there's still no warrant the article has little information on what really happened but this bad news will have a serious impact on Casimero's condition physically and mentally,
As far as the current progress of the case is concerned, there is no clear stuff at the moment.
Casimero just needs to show some proofs that will weaken the case. If he is innocent, that should be an easy task to do.
After that, he can sue the other party for ruining his life.
February 25, 2022, 06:51:34 PM
Casimero has been known to overcome adversities and odds he is a true journeyman, he has fought a lot of his fights and in fact, he loves to fight overseas to enemy's territory and always overcome and wins sometimes by knock out, this is no different from all the other adversities he has faced in the past, it will just motivate him more and will finish Butler early so expect a very aggresive Casimero here.
He doesn't really care in what territory he is fighting he just love boxing, and if he hates his opponent a lot he surely loves to knock him down that is for sure, I think in these many problems that he is facing when he fights on Butler would commence and could continue he will definitely want a knockout win against Paul Butler that is for sure,
Casimero doesn't need much money or financial needs to handle this case because he is not yet guilty as of now, other than that, I bet that his team would just allow that to happen especially the MP Promotions because Casimero is one of their best boxers. So, if Casimero is convicted that would mean that the MP Promotions have lost one of their cash cow.
He is literally chilling at home while there is a case against him, I really think that is savage and he really doesn't care about the issue's given to him, and at the moment he is only focused on his goals and that is on his upcoming fight with Paul Butler and to retain his WBO belt, and from what I see he is doing great in his camp, he doesn't really need money just to win the case, and they're still no update about that and the fight is near commencing so I think this fight will proceed.
This is one of the troubles of having money and fame, I don't know the real score if it is a setup then the victim will demand big money from Casimero, if this issue is ironed up I hope he learns his lesson that he needs a good company or behave so that he will not attract the same scenario again, this kind of issue will hinder his road to greatness.
And some fans are quick to believe this kind of issue, and the Media is everywhere in giving tons, of this kind of issue just to have some news to cover, and I think this is a good opportunity for them but this will surely impact Casimero's popularity and credibility and I think that is not good with his image, but I really wish this would settle down, if he has really done something wrong, I think to settle it with legal action is the best way, but if he does not do anything wrong then there are legal actions in that kind of issue, regarding some media spreading fake news.
February 25, 2022, 06:48:37 PM
I have nothing to say about how long the process will take, my point is that the judge should be fair.
In the Philippines, it will take forever, especially if the accused has enough money to fight for the case. However, this is not good for him if there's enough evidence to convince him, it's better to settle it the soonest so the problem will not get worst and will not distract his training.
I don't think that Casimero will have the financial to fight this case so that it will be prolong. He is one of those boxers who is also a rag to riches story like Manny is. However, he may have to contact powerful personality to convince the girl to drop the charges in exchange of huge amount of money and they can go on with their lives.
Casimero doesn't need much money or financial needs to handle this case because he is not yet guilty as of now, other than that, I bet that his team would just allow that to happen especially the MP Promotions because Casimero is one of their best boxers. So, if Casimero is convicted that would mean that the MP Promotions have lost one of their cash cow.
This is one of the troubles of having money and fame, I don't know the real score if it is a setup then the victim will demand big money from Casimero, if this issue is ironed up I hope he learns his lesson that he needs a good company or behave so that he will not attract the same scenario again, this kind of issue will hinder his road to greatness.
Wow, that's unexpected turn of events here. If Casimero will surpass this issue, I hope he will learn his lesson fast.
With the #MeToo Movement, some would really fabricate a story to get the sympathy of the public, even if it didn't happen.
Casimero's camp should settle this fast, because if this will go far, his career will be affected.
These days, people should be very careful as the social media can make a small issue a big deal .
February 25, 2022, 05:56:25 PM
I have nothing to say about how long the process will take, my point is that the judge should be fair.
In the Philippines, it will take forever, especially if the accused has enough money to fight for the case. However, this is not good for him if there's enough evidence to convince him, it's better to settle it the soonest so the problem will not get worst and will not distract his training.
I don't think that Casimero will have the financial to fight this case so that it will be prolong. He is one of those boxers who is also a rag to riches story like Manny is. However, he may have to contact powerful personality to convince the girl to drop the charges in exchange of huge amount of money and they can go on with their lives.
Casimero doesn't need much money or financial needs to handle this case because he is not yet guilty as of now, other than that, I bet that his team would just allow that to happen especially the MP Promotions because Casimero is one of their best boxers. So, if Casimero is convicted that would mean that the MP Promotions have lost one of their cash cow.
This is one of the troubles of having money and fame, I don't know the real score if it is a setup then the victim will demand big money from Casimero, if this issue is ironed up I hope he learns his lesson that he needs a good company or behave so that he will not attract the same scenario again, this kind of issue will hinder his road to greatness.
February 25, 2022, 10:10:13 AM
I have nothing to say about how long the process will take, my point is that the judge should be fair.
In the Philippines, it will take forever, especially if the accused has enough money to fight for the case. However, this is not good for him if there's enough evidence to convince him, it's better to settle it the soonest so the problem will not get worst and will not distract his training.
I don't think that Casimero will have the financial to fight this case so that it will be prolong. He is one of those boxers who is also a rag to riches story like Manny is. However, he may have to contact powerful personality to convince the girl to drop the charges in exchange of huge amount of money and they can go on with their lives.
Casimero doesn't need much money or financial needs to handle this case because he is not yet guilty as of now, other than that, I bet that his team would just allow that to happen especially the MP Promotions because Casimero is one of their best boxers. So, if Casimero is convicted that would mean that the MP Promotions have lost one of their cash cow.
February 25, 2022, 09:53:40 AM
I bolded that part because that's what important for Casimero to overcome. He has an upcoming fight and then this news comes out. Admit it or not, they will be at his mind even if he is in the US and no arrest warrant has been issued it. There are a lot of boxers who have been accused in the past and I would agree that some of them have ruined their career because of sexual assault. But let's give Casimero a benefit of the doubt for now.
Handlers are the most important here. I think Casimero has those who can deal with this issue and let him focused with his upcoming fight.
It's a legal accusation and let his lawyers take care of this concern. He's on his duty to take care of his drills and condition his body since
he also has some medical concern, and that's needed to address.
We should focus this topic on this upcoming fight and what would be the odd/s for Casimero. ML might not be interesting same as how
bookies place the line for the heavy favorites.
Casimero has been known to overcome adversities and odds he is a true journeyman, he has fought a lot of his fights and in fact, he loves to fight overseas to enemy's territory and always overcome and wins sometimes by knock out, this is no different from all the other adversities he has faced in the past, it will just motivate him more and will finish Butler early so expect a very aggresive Casimero here.
February 25, 2022, 03:47:02 AM
I bolded that part because that's what important for Casimero to overcome. He has an upcoming fight and then this news comes out. Admit it or not, they will be at his mind even if he is in the US and no arrest warrant has been issued it. There are a lot of boxers who have been accused in the past and I would agree that some of them have ruined their career because of sexual assault. But let's give Casimero a benefit of the doubt for now.
Handlers are the most important here. I think Casimero has those who can deal with this issue and let him focused with his upcoming fight.
It's a legal accusation and let his lawyers take care of this concern. He's on his duty to take care of his drills and condition his body since
he also has some medical concern, and that's needed to address.
We should focus this topic on this upcoming fight and what would be the odd/s for Casimero. ML might not be interesting same as how
bookies place the line for the heavy favorites.
February 25, 2022, 03:46:26 AM
Seriously? The alleged victim said in the blotter that she was just hoping and trying to take a picture with Casimero. But 4 hours after she arrived, how did she ends up on Casimero's room where the alleged incident happened?
Yes, an investigation will be the next thing to happen and this will take long enough as they need to interview some individuals, someone that may saw the incident first and watch some CCTV footage to help the case go smoothly before issuing a warrant. I also doubt that Casimero's attorney will just make it happen fast because they need to do everything also to protect Casimero especially now that he have a fight soon. But as I said, if Casimero is truly innocent then I guess there's nothing to worry as he is not guilty.
February 25, 2022, 01:40:39 AM
These things are quite normal now especially if you're a famous athlete or a celebrity who have a fat pocket. In Casimero's case, he should be more cautious about these things so that he won't face this situation again.
Seriously? The alleged victim said in the blotter that she was just hoping and trying to take a picture with Casimero. But 4 hours after she arrived, how did she ends up on Casimero's room where the alleged incident happened?
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"Casimero touched her breast and vagina on separate occasions while she was trying to sleep in his hotel room. The latter incident allegedly took place around 11:00 p.m., four hours after she arrived at the hotel in hopes of getting a picture with Casimero"
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-accused-acts-lasciviousness-philippines-team-dismisses-claims-fabricated--164303Seriously? The alleged victim said in the blotter that she was just hoping and trying to take a picture with Casimero. But 4 hours after she arrived, how did she ends up on Casimero's room where the alleged incident happened?
There's someone who is behind all of these issues and they are trying to get revenge to Casimero.
I agree with you, this thing/incident is pretty normal to celebrities nowadays because they alleged victim only want to extort money from them.
This case is similar to Kobe Bryant's case but it did not prosper if i'm correct.
Just hoping that Casimero's training will not be affected by this case.
February 24, 2022, 10:51:19 PM
In the latest news that I read:
Casimero Accused of Acts Of Lasciviousness In Philippines; Team Dismisses Claims As "Fabricated"
https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-accused-acts-lasciviousness-philippines-team-dismisses-claims-fabricated--164303
So another distraction for Casimero, will give him the benefit of the doubt. Makes me wonder why it was just filed this month? Or maybe some entity is behind to destroy John Riel emotionally and financially? Your guess is as good as mine.
Casimero Accused of Acts Of Lasciviousness In Philippines; Team Dismisses Claims As "Fabricated"
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An official complaint was filed on February 11 against the three-division and reigning WBO bantamweight titlist from Ormoc City, Philippines, who is accused of Acts of Lasciviousness and of being in violation of Republic Act 7610—Special Protection of Children Against Abuse, Exploitation and Discrimination Act. The complaint and pending investigation alleged that Casimero made inappropriate contact with a minor last June in Taguig City.
Violation of RA 7610 is punishable by imprisonment of no less than three months but no more than three years. Similarly, a suspect found guilty of Act of Lasciviousness is punishable by imprisonment of six months to six years.
Violation of RA 7610 is punishable by imprisonment of no less than three months but no more than three years. Similarly, a suspect found guilty of Act of Lasciviousness is punishable by imprisonment of six months to six years.
https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-accused-acts-lasciviousness-philippines-team-dismisses-claims-fabricated--164303
So another distraction for Casimero, will give him the benefit of the doubt. Makes me wonder why it was just filed this month? Or maybe some entity is behind to destroy John Riel emotionally and financially? Your guess is as good as mine.
Oh, really? I didn't know about this.
IMO, this was planned and staged perfectly by the alleged victim because she really knows when and the fact that Casimero is on his way for the fight. The Casimero camp has no choice but to settle this because if this goes worse then Casimero would be heavily affected as well as his career. If I am right, it is all about money because the alleged victim was in the hotel room with Casimero and then filed a blotter later on. We will see soon about this, Casimero should focus first about this fight before anything else and let his team handle the lawsuit.
Yeah, the story is like cut on a movie story or something. Although there are history of not just in boxing, but in all of sports that someone alleges that the superstar committed some sexual innuendos that resulted in a criminal case just like this one. I haven't seen any update yet, but for sure this is a big news in the Philippines involving one of their superstar boxers.
February 24, 2022, 10:48:34 PM
I have nothing to say about how long the process will take, my point is that the judge should be fair.
In the Philippines, it will take forever, especially if the accused has enough money to fight for the case. However, this is not good for him if there's enough evidence to convince him, it's better to settle it the soonest so the problem will not get worst and will not distract his training.
I don't think that Casimero will have the financial to fight this case so that it will be prolong. He is one of those boxers who is also a rag to riches story like Manny is. However, he may have to contact powerful personality to convince the girl to drop the charges in exchange of huge amount of money and they can go on with their lives.
February 24, 2022, 08:32:26 PM
Seriously? The alleged victim said in the blotter that she was just hoping and trying to take a picture with Casimero. But 4 hours after she arrived, how did she ends up on Casimero's room where the alleged incident happened?
I bolded that part because that's what important for Casimero to overcome. He has an upcoming fight and then this news comes out. Admit it or not, they will be at his mind even if he is in the US and no arrest warrant has been issued it. There are a lot of boxers who have been accused in the past and I would agree that some of them have ruined their career because of sexual assault. But let's give Casimero a benefit of the doubt for now.
February 24, 2022, 06:50:29 PM
What a complicated story and somehow impossible to happen since maybe this one is fabricated and made up just for the sake of money. For sure the hotel have CCTV set up and this can prove Casimero's innocence of accused crime if he is. But if the case is really true then your right for sure this issue will be silent since money can move everything and for sure this one will be settle.
If Casimero wins, there could be some unexpected claim again. But these issues should be gone already if he's close to his fight night. But if there's a reality to the accusation, the truth shall be told maybe after his match. We are not enablers and victim blamers but we've seen situations that really had made extortion for people like Casimero.
Everything is under investigation and there's still no warrant the article has little information on what really happened but this bad news will have a serious impact on Casimero's condition physically and mentally, many boxers got their life ruined because of similar accusations the prominent one is Mike Tyson, I hope he can prove his innocence, he has a great career in boxing and on his way to greatness.
The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation. 
February 24, 2022, 05:53:23 PM
Seriously? The alleged victim said in the blotter that she was just hoping and trying to take a picture with Casimero. But 4 hours after she arrived, how did she ends up on Casimero's room where the alleged incident happened?
February 24, 2022, 05:29:52 PM
Yes, unfortunately, such situations happen very often.
It is easier to convict a man on a charge of rape than a girl on charges of deliberately slandering a man.
I don't know what happened between Casimero and that girl in the hotel. It is natural for a man to touch a girl's breasts if he likes her and wants to have sex with her. Casimero is a healthy person. He is an athlete with a powerful libido.
However, he is not a rapist. In my opinion, he is aggressive in the ring, not in dealing with girls. I think he is innocent. Although I have little information about this situation.
I hope that the situation will be resolved safely for Casimero.
Oh no, unfortunately another issue rises against Casimero and this time we didn't know who's the one who are telling the truth. Whatever it is, I just do hope that this issue would not going to affect his upcoming fight against Butler and hopefully he'd still able to win this fight to cover up this issue. I might think that this will be a distraction issue to him or might say an accidental problem but whatever happen Casimero still needed to face Butler to defend his title.
We will never know now because if there's a lawsuit, it will be settled in court. What we are doing is just we are just speculating which is not good as we are supposed to speculate on the fight. This new controversy, only proved that Casimero's attitude inside the ring is similar outside the ring.
Trust me, this will be resolved with a good amount of money paid to the accuser. Especially that Casimero has an incoming fight on April, he might not want to get bothered on this case while his on training and conditioning.
However, we are just speculating here anyway.
But If Casimero did not do it, he might also want to try chase and win this case, but then again this will cost his precious time and his focus on this upcoming match while facing this charge.
What a complicated story and somehow impossible to happen since maybe this one is fabricated and made up just for the sake of money. For sure the hotel have CCTV set up and this can prove Casimero's innocence of accused crime if he is. But if the case is really true then your right for sure this issue will be silent since money can move everything and for sure this one will be settle.
February 24, 2022, 05:02:58 PM
Yes, unfortunately, such situations happen very often.
It is easier to convict a man on a charge of rape than a girl on charges of deliberately slandering a man.
I don't know what happened between Casimero and that girl in the hotel. It is natural for a man to touch a girl's breasts if he likes her and wants to have sex with her. Casimero is a healthy person. He is an athlete with a powerful libido.
However, he is not a rapist. In my opinion, he is aggressive in the ring, not in dealing with girls. I think he is innocent. Although I have little information about this situation.
I hope that the situation will be resolved safely for Casimero.
Oh no, unfortunately another issue rises against Casimero and this time we didn't know who's the one who are telling the truth. Whatever it is, I just do hope that this issue would not going to affect his upcoming fight against Butler and hopefully he'd still able to win this fight to cover up this issue. I might think that this will be a distraction issue to him or might say an accidental problem but whatever happen Casimero still needed to face Butler to defend his title.
We will never know now because if there's a lawsuit, it will be settled in court. What we are doing is just we are just speculating which is not good as we are supposed to speculate on the fight. This new controversy, only proved that Casimero's attitude inside the ring is similar outside the ring.
Trust me, this will be resolved with a good amount of money paid to the accuser. Especially that Casimero has an incoming fight on April, he might not want to get bothered on this case while his on training and conditioning.
However, we are just speculating here anyway.
But If Casimero did not do it, he might also want to try chase and win this case, but then again this will cost his precious time and his focus on this upcoming match while facing this charge.
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