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^^ He is still arrogant though, so nothing has change as someone already posted that he has a vlog, maybe you can follow it and see how he is doing outside of training and his predictions of his upcoming fight. I'm just thinking though that since the Philippines have lost one of it's longest running champion, perhaps Casimero wanted to keep the Philippine flag alive in boxing by giving his all in this fight and try to win by all means.
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Maybe Casimero is realizing that he doesn't need to trash talk as it may backfire him later on.

He's not like that. I think no but instead, some from his camp or the promoters themselves told him to stay quiet from now on lol.

The supposed fight with Naoya Inoue in December got leaked because of Casimero's advance announcement even there are no official negotiations happened. That issue is sensitive since WBO has a timeline that needs to follow, so is the promoters who are handling the fights.
We all have thought really that it's going to be Inoue and Casimero as it came from him personally and then, here goes the sudden announcement and order from WBO.
It's possible that it's his team that has told him to remain quiet and just focuses on training. And when the match is going to be near like 2 or 1 week before it starts, they'll do the marketing through him and will do the talks. Maybe not actual trash talks but some insults I guess.
I think casimero's approach already changed because from trash talker it seems like he already keep His silence for long now.
though this maybe another strategy and His mouth will start trashing again when the fight is near to happen.
but whatever he does? still the fight will be awaited as this will Lead Casimero to finally fight Inoue in which His dream fight for long now, after His fellow Filipino Boxer Fails winning against this Japanese monster fighter.
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We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

A blog is something like a daily hobby. It's good to have that especially if you have a big name since you will have surely lots of followers bit by bit. I don't know how it was started to discuss here but everyone should not think that Casimero is not doing his regular practice as he focuses on his blog. It's not what happening here as Casimero is always serious in training from the start.

Spare time maybe, but for sure, he's focused on his conditioning.

especially now that he just went to a health issue, he needed to focus more on balance diet and the drills that he needs to workout,
Casimero is a defending title holder.

He's the one being challenged. The focus and pressure are also on him. Butler is hungry and for sure will do everything to snatch
the belt from Casimero.
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Maybe Casimero is realizing that he doesn't need to trash talk as it may backfire him later on.

He's not like that. I think no but instead, some from his camp or the promoters themselves told him to stay quiet from now on lol.

The supposed fight with Naoya Inoue in December got leaked because of Casimero's advance announcement even there are no official negotiations happened. That issue is sensitive since WBO has a timeline that needs to follow, so is the promoters who are handling the fights.
We all have thought really that it's going to be Inoue and Casimero as it came from him personally and then, here goes the sudden announcement and order from WBO.
It's possible that it's his team that has told him to remain quiet and just focuses on training. And when the match is going to be near like 2 or 1 week before it starts, they'll do the marketing through him and will do the talks. Maybe not actual trash talks but some insults I guess.
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We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

A blog is something like a daily hobby. It's good to have that especially if you have a big name since you will have surely lots of followers bit by bit. I don't know how it was started to discuss here but everyone should not think that Casimero is not doing his regular practice as he focuses on his blog. It's not what happening here as Casimero is always serious in training from the start.
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Most viewers are speculating that he just wants to focus on vlogging for now and we can't blame him for that because we can't deny the fact that vlogging could also be a good source of income. He might have his own reasons but I sure that whatever it is, it's also for his own good but I hope that he could also consider grabbing the right opportunities for him.

I don't see it that way. His blogging is just more of a side trip while he's out of the practice.

Let's should not put weight on his blogging as that's more of the fun side and we have seen him more active in boxing compared to that.

Should be clear now. Cheesy
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We can't really tell if it's a staged distraction for a purpose of bothering Casimero while he is getting ready for his fight. I think this incident is just a coincidence because IMO the alleged victim was just hoping to milk some money from Casimero and not for the purpose of distraction. Yes, I guess this case will be dismissed soon as it really lacks of evidence and the statement of the alleged victim wasn't on point and have lots of loopholes.

That's not a distraction since the case was filed by the Women and Children Protection Desk wherein they received a complaint around August 2021. Of course, since it has a process and will take time before filing a case as they are preparing evidence, they now reached the settlement recently and are now able to file a case.

Another one, it's just that the fight was delayed that's why we think of this case filed against him as a distraction. If only the fight happened last December, Casimero's camp is more focused now to solve the case today.
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Maybe Casimero is realizing that he doesn't need to trash talk as it may backfire him later on.

He's not like that. I think no but instead, some from his camp or the promoters themselves told him to stay quiet from now on lol.

The supposed fight with Naoya Inoue in December got leaked because of Casimero's advance announcement even there are no official negotiations happened. That issue is sensitive since WBO has a timeline that needs to follow, so is the promoters who are handling the fights.
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Everything is all about business once he is in the ring, anything he said outside could just be a way to promote the fight, and all we want to see now is for Casimero to successfully defend his belt and be ready for the waiting big fight. I'm hoping that it will not be the same like the Ancajas fight where he was upset by his challenger.

I think it's not about promoting the fight but he's really like that lol. Promoting the fight thru trash talk is not really an effective way to market the fight. People will watch the fight if they were really interested. But honestly, there's no new trash talk that happened after the fight between Casimero and Butler was delayed, or did I just miss that? Maybe he now wants to be humble as "karma" is just there lol.

I'm hoping that it will not be the same like the Ancajas fight where he was upset by his challenger.

Unfortunately, that's what happened.

Maybe Casimero is realizing that he doesn't need to trash talk as it may backfire him later on. And yes, look at what happened with Ancajas. I did not expect it to be an upset as Ancajas has a very good record. So Casimero should not really take this fight lightly as the challenger can always prepare hard and beat the favorite. We have seen a lot of upsets in boxing but this Ancajas vs Martinez is clearly a win for Martinez.
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Why do people do commonly react that whenever a person do make out some vlogs it is already considered for their source of income?
I guess because people are now so used to seeing people earn money from doing vlogs. I think people assumed because he gets views or is popular he'll money from doing it. that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Casimero actually does earn some money from the vlogs he posts.

anyway, I am looking forward to their fight and hoping no more issues arose that'll postpone their fight again.



people will surely have a different perspective about this, and because Vlogging has some tendency to earn money many will surely think about that, and I think here in the Philippines it is pretty normal, but I think for John Riel Casimero, well this is just my opinion, it is both it is a way to keep his fans updated on his life and to keep on documenting his training, and making money is just a bonus and he's not a boxer forever this vlogging will surely solidify some earnings for his future, and Casimero come from a poor family he experiences hardship before attaining this so he deserves it.

And yeah wish no more issues will arise for this fight to continue.

The people try to earn many source for the income.The vlogs became the favorite one for the people with some video taking skills.
They also doing the vlogs for the promotion. The fight gonna rock this time as compared to the older game. All the time, the rematch always create the eagers to the fans.

It is sure Normal nowadays and because of the Pandemic people find ways alternative ways to make money, and this is a great opportunity for some, but for Casimero, he has a different use for Vlogging, and you are right to reconnect to his fans about his training, update on the fight, promotion, and what happens in his daily life and like I said the Money is just a bonus.


During this pandemic, a lot of people found another source of income via creating vlogs under YT.
It would take time before they can earn from this, like they need to acquire certain number of viewing hours and subscribers.
Before the adsense will be activated. That's what I was hearing from these vloggers.
But no income or not, I think, making these videos like the ones from Casimero will give a glimpse of his life direct from him.
He has his fans, so some would really want to know what's going on with his life. Aside from the fact that it is free advertising.
Talking about the fight, he should prepare well as we have seen the latest fight, Ancajas lost from Martinez. An upset can happen anytime.

Well I have talked to some friends that are Vlogging on youtube and they say they need 1000 Subscription, and 4000 watch hours for the payment to rack in some payment, and for the bigger payments you will surely need higher subscriptions like, comments, and views to rack up million payment, and right now Casimero's youtube channel has 321K Subscribers and his videos have 40k to 30k views.
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Everything is all about business once he is in the ring, anything he said outside could just be a way to promote the fight, and all we want to see now is for Casimero to successfully defend his belt and be ready for the waiting big fight. I'm hoping that it will not be the same like the Ancajas fight where he was upset by his challenger.

I think it's not about promoting the fight but he's really like that lol. Promoting the fight thru trash talk is not really an effective way to market the fight. People will watch the fight if they were really interested. But honestly, there's no new trash talk that happened after the fight between Casimero and Butler was delayed, or did I just miss that? Maybe he now wants to be humble as "karma" is just there lol.

I'm hoping that it will not be the same like the Ancajas fight where he was upset by his challenger.

Unfortunately, that's what happened.
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Why do people do commonly react that whenever a person do make out some vlogs it is already considered for their source of income?
I guess because people are now so used to seeing people earn money from doing vlogs. I think people assumed because he gets views or is popular he'll money from doing it. that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Casimero actually does earn some money from the vlogs he posts.

anyway, I am looking forward to their fight and hoping no more issues arose that'll postpone their fight again.


The people try to earn many source for the income.The vlogs became the favorite one for the people with some video taking skills.
They also doing the vlogs for the promotion. The fight gonna rock this time as compared to the older game. All the time, the rematch always create the eagers to the fans.

During this pandemic, a lot of people found another source of income via creating vlogs under YT.
It would take time before they can earn from this, like they need to acquire certain number of viewing hours and subscribers.
Before the adsense will be activated. That's what I was hearing from these vloggers.
But no income or not, I think, making these videos like the ones from Casimero will give a glimpse of his life direct from him.
He has his fans, so some would really want to know what's going on with his life. Aside from the fact that it is free advertising.
Talking about the fight, he should prepare well as we have seen the latest fight, Ancajas lost from Martinez. An upset can happen anytime.
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Why do people do commonly react that whenever a person do make out some vlogs it is already considered for their source of income?
I guess because people are now so used to seeing people earn money from doing vlogs. I think people assumed because he gets views or is popular he'll money from doing it. that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Casimero actually does earn some money from the vlogs he posts.

anyway, I am looking forward to their fight and hoping no more issues arose that'll postpone their fight again.

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It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

Most viewers are speculating that he just wants to focus on vlogging for now and we can't blame him for that because we can't deny the fact that vlogging could also be a good source of income. He might have his own reasons but I sure that whatever it is, it's also for his own good but I hope that he could also consider grabbing the right opportunities for him.

Really? Didn't heard about that at all. Casimero's vlogging channel ain't going to be his main source of income because we already know that he is into boxing and it is already his life even before. He once also said that he wants to follow Manny Pacquiao's footstep or even greater. YouTube might be a good source of income but I'm quite sure that it is not what he wants.
Why do people do commonly react that whenever a person do make out some vlogs it is already considered for their source of income?

They do always have the right on making out some milestone videos or documentaries on what they've been doing.So its not always talking about
being a source of income just because they are doing some blogging.Its not actually a solid basis.
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It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

Most viewers are speculating that he just wants to focus on vlogging for now and we can't blame him for that because we can't deny the fact that vlogging could also be a good source of income. He might have his own reasons but I sure that whatever it is, it's also for his own good but I hope that he could also consider grabbing the right opportunities for him.

Really? Didn't heard about that at all. Casimero's vlogging channel ain't going to be his main source of income because we already know that he is into boxing and it is already his life even before. He once also said that he wants to follow Manny Pacquiao's footstep or even greater. YouTube might be a good source of income but I'm quite sure that it is not what he wants.
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It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

Most viewers are speculating that he just wants to focus on vlogging for now and we can't blame him for that because we can't deny the fact that vlogging could also be a good source of income. He might have his own reasons but I sure that whatever it is, it's also for his own good but I hope that he could also consider grabbing the right opportunities for him.
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The emotional impact of this is for real and sadly, this will affect him while he's on training but maybe his focus is way different from our speculation.

If there's no real problem at his side, that won't affect him from his current training. He is surely comfortable since he knows that the case is just an attempt to distract him. If his inner self, telling him that the case is somehow real, that's the time he will feel distracted.

Casimero already denies the allegation. If he's sure about that, then everything, from training to conditioning, should be good.
Yeah, if it's just a distraction and made on timing and purpose of disturbing him for his title defense. Then, he'll just leave it ignored and hanging. And if it's from him and there's not sufficient evidence then that only means that there's nothing to worry about by him.
Well, as we're guessing, that's making us worry, and if he's the one that's telling there's no need to worry. That means that we as fans shouldn't worry as well. Any update about his training and how he's doing? I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.

We can't really tell if it's a staged distraction for a purpose of bothering Casimero while he is getting ready for his fight. I think this incident is just a coincidence because IMO the alleged victim was just hoping to milk some money from Casimero and not for the purpose of distraction. Yes, I guess this case will be dismissed soon as it really lacks of evidence and the statement of the alleged victim wasn't on point and have lots of loopholes.

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Any update about his training and how he's doing? I'm a fan of his but I don't watch his vlogs as I've got a lot to watch and maybe random videos of his when the match is near to date.

He looks so well despite of his situation now, his team and new nutrionist did a good job on that. He usually have a livestream while jogging or short vids. Sometimes, if I have time I do watch his vlogs to support his channel.
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It won't happen. Let's just hold on until the match comes. Let's also stop distracting ourselves from him.
He knows what's best for him and it's his own personal battle. But the most important battle that he should do right now is to be well-trained so that he'll win against Butler. He just doesn't have to be careless and people are expecting a lot from him. Let's hope that he's going to be well despite the distraction.
Most probably Casimero want’s to have a normal life as well, so maybe the vlogs are his own way to express that then so be it, I’m not a fan of his content as well I just want him on the ring. He already knows how to balance his activities, I’m confident as well that despite of all the distraction he will remain focus on his training so he can win on his up coming fight with Butler.
We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.
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Casimero is the heavy favorite to win the fight it's been a long time since he lose a fight but this particular fight is very much different from all the fights, because of the many issues that he's facing, lack of support from his promoters, a charge of molestation and frustration of not getting big fights, he will be tested here and hopefully he can come out with a good win here.

He boastfully said that he doesn't need good practice to win this match against Butler. He sees his challenger is not even a threat. Cheesy

I don't see those distractions will really affect him.

He should prove his arrogance by winning on the day of the fight. Smiley

Well that is Casimero's personality, he is so brandish and arrogant, but who knows, if you underestimate your opponent, you might get knock out and upset and we don't want that to happen to him.

So hopefully what he shows in public is very different in private, he still needs to train very hard, make the weight and then go fight and give his 100% best.

Everything is all about business once he is in the ring, anything he said outside could just be a way to promote the fight, and all we want to see now is for Casimero to successfully defend his belt and be ready for the waiting big fight. I'm hoping that it will not be the same like the Ancajas fight where he was upset by his challenger.
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Casimero is the heavy favorite to win the fight it's been a long time since he lose a fight but this particular fight is very much different from all the fights, because of the many issues that he's facing, lack of support from his promoters, a charge of molestation and frustration of not getting big fights, he will be tested here and hopefully he can come out with a good win here.

He boastfully said that he doesn't need good practice to win this match against Butler. He sees his challenger is not even a threat. Cheesy

I don't see those distractions will really affect him.

He should prove his arrogance by winning on the day of the fight. Smiley

Well that is Casimero's personality, he is so brandish and arrogant, but who knows, if you underestimate your opponent, you might get knock out and upset and we don't want that to happen to him.

So hopefully what he shows in public is very different in private, he still needs to train very hard, make the weight and then go fight and give his 100% best.
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