This is going to be a very easy fight for Casimero. Butler is just a food served on a plate for Casimero. I predict this will be a walk in the park for him. But he should still be in his perfect form when facing Butler to avoid possible upset.
This fight will be like his warm up fight for a possible bigger match right after. There might still be a Casimero vs. Donaire or even Casimero vs. Naoya Inoue after this battle. So he should be prepared and come strong in this conditioning match.
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October 24, 2021, 10:02:42 PM
October 24, 2021, 06:59:24 PM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
Thus, he can't do anything but just to obey what has the WBO have ordered him to match with Butler. He'll just let this pass and will look forward that this match has already ended so that he can proceed with what he's been planning all along.
I don't think he needs to be choosy because it is a mandatory fight. The reason why the pot money is small because only one bid for their fight. What can he do, even his promoter didn't bid on this match? So don't expect higher purse if he has the sole bidder here. It will only increase if there's at least another bidder, so they will compete for the price. If he wants bigger purse for his next fight, then make sure he will win over Butler.
October 24, 2021, 06:57:35 PM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
Thus, he can't do anything but just to obey what has the WBO have ordered him to match with Butler. He'll just let this pass and will look forward that this match has already ended so that he can proceed with what he's been planning all along.
October 24, 2021, 05:01:30 PM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
And he will be stripped on the belt is he chooses not to fight because of the pot money is very small, although majority of it will still goes to his pocket.
So it's not gonna sit well with the organization, Casimero is their champion, they have to represent him and fight his mandatory even in the money in the table is very small. So I would say that he has no choice but to follow the mandatory fight rule.
Just need to take it and win in a much convincing way to attract more fans,
Forget about the money and think about long-term effect if keeps winning all the fight in case there are more mandatory
fight to come for him.
Fighting to earn more fame and glory, that's how a fighter supposed to be when you want to move up and create your
destiny, Casimero still young and still lots of time to build more popularity.
He win convincingly as his last win was not convincing to the eyes of some speculators.
Casimero is known for his timing and power, so he can surely show that in this fight as Butler is not the same as Rigondeaux who ruin the show by just running without even an intention to throw hard punches. Casimero is lucky to have an opponent that is willing to give a toe to toe fight, this type of opponent is what he likes as he does not have to spend energy chasing it.
October 24, 2021, 04:42:03 PM
Just need to take it and win in a much convincing way to attract more fans,
Forget about the money and think about long-term effect if keeps winning all the fight in case there are more mandatory
fight to come for him.
Fighting to earn more fame and glory, that's how a fighter supposed to be when you want to move up and create your
destiny, Casimero still young and still lots of time to build more popularity.
Forget about the money and think about long-term effect if keeps winning all the fight in case there are more mandatory
fight to come for him.
Fighting to earn more fame and glory, that's how a fighter supposed to be when you want to move up and create your
destiny, Casimero still young and still lots of time to build more popularity.
Yeah, you are right, Casimero needs to attract more fans and be more popular especially here in the Philippines since Manny Pacquiao has already retired. He just has to make sure that this incident of having only Probellum as a bidder that resulted in a low purse bid should not happen again and he should talk and have a good working relationship with his new promoter.
But on the other hand, Casimero is not young anymore, at this time of his career he should have earned at least 20M Php per fight as a champion.
Anyways, he has learned his lesson well and the important thing is that he is now focused on dismantling Butler to show Inoue that he is the next monster to him and he deserves a fight with the Japanese Monster.
October 24, 2021, 12:06:23 PM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
And he will be stripped on the belt is he chooses not to fight because of the pot money is very small, although majority of it will still goes to his pocket.
So it's not gonna sit well with the organization, Casimero is their champion, they have to represent him and fight his mandatory even in the money in the table is very small. So I would say that he has no choice but to follow the mandatory fight rule.
Just need to take it and win in a much convincing way to attract more fans,
Forget about the money and think about long-term effect if keeps winning all the fight in case there are more mandatory
fight to come for him.
Fighting to earn more fame and glory, that's how a fighter supposed to be when you want to move up and create your
destiny, Casimero still young and still lots of time to build more popularity.
October 24, 2021, 08:05:52 AM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
And he will be stripped on the belt is he chooses not to fight because of the pot money is very small, although majority of it will still goes to his pocket.
So it's not gonna sit well with the organization, Casimero is their champion, they have to represent him and fight his mandatory even in the money in the table is very small. So I would say that he has no choice but to follow the mandatory fight rule.
He would not be happy with the amount he will make from this fight, being a boxer, he will pay for the expenses of his staff, their stay in the US and everything necessary during the training, so most likely he will get a little amount or worst he will have to add funds for the expenses incurred during the training. But like you said, he has no choice since it's a mandatory fight, the word itself says "no choice".
October 24, 2021, 06:09:56 AM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
And he will be stripped on the belt is he chooses not to fight because of the pot money is very small, although majority of it will still goes to his pocket.
So it's not gonna sit well with the organization, Casimero is their champion, they have to represent him and fight his mandatory even in the money in the table is very small. So I would say that he has no choice but to follow the mandatory fight rule.
October 24, 2021, 05:18:26 AM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
We know Casimero has the advantage of this fight but we cannot assure that he will win knowing that there is no fix match on this and his opponent can able to punch hard which can cause him knockout so he needs to avoid that his opponent will connect a power shot to his face or body so that he will be at good shape on prolong the fight or maybe he should do his best to finish the fight early so that no lucky punches will possibly land and can destroy his good stand these days.
That advantage is only based solely on their record of fights, we cannot guarantee that Casimero will successfully defend his title here as they haven't fought before. This fight although Casimero is not fighting a champion his opponent is known to be an aggressive fighter so we will see an entertaining fight here unlike the last fight of Casimero.
Exactly this happen so many times where what people think the dominant lost to the underdog so its not safe to say Casimero will win since his opponent have a power punch to knock out him in the ring so maybe he needs to prepare for that fight since its a big shame for him if he lost since we might not see those big fights to be discussed again once he get defeated by his current opponent.
Just because the clash between John Riel Casimero and Naoya Inoue didn't happen, most people think that Butler is just an easy boxer that can be passed without a problem for Casimero. These people should realize the Butler should not be taken lightly.
But in fairness to Casimero, I think he will prepare fully for this fight and will remain focused. This fight is important because if he will lose it, there's no future with Naoya Inoue now.
Maybe they look at the record of butler where it state that he's not totally a K.O puncher and he's also 32 years of age that's why many take that as disadvantage that's why they tell that this is an easy fight to Casimero but in reality we cannot really say it is since as I said we see so many underdog wins and If Casimero will take this as light fight for him maybe he will be in danger since for sure his opponent will really prepare for this fight.
But in fairness to Casimer we know how dedicated he is on every fight so lets just cheer him up to win and to see his upcoming big fights in future.
October 23, 2021, 08:51:20 PM
The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
I think even with small pot money (or how much pot money is considered as small) Casimero will still take it no matter what. In this fight against Butler, it's mandatory so whatever the purse, no choice but to comply. The high purse only happened in an arranged bout especially if that's a title match. Casimero just needs to finish all the assigned boxers to him to climb the ladder and a possible matchup with those.
In case of a win on the upcoming fight against Butler, I think WBO will allow Casimero's camp to continue arranging the fight with Naoya Inoue. My projected financial split for that fight will be 60/40 in favor of Naoya Inoue.
October 23, 2021, 07:24:32 PM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
We know Casimero has the advantage of this fight but we cannot assure that he will win knowing that there is no fix match on this and his opponent can able to punch hard which can cause him knockout so he needs to avoid that his opponent will connect a power shot to his face or body so that he will be at good shape on prolong the fight or maybe he should do his best to finish the fight early so that no lucky punches will possibly land and can destroy his good stand these days.
That advantage is only based solely on their record of fights, we cannot guarantee that Casimero will successfully defend his title here as they haven't fought before. This fight although Casimero is not fighting a champion his opponent is known to be an aggressive fighter so we will see an entertaining fight here unlike the last fight of Casimero.
Exactly this happen so many times where what people think the dominant lost to the underdog so its not safe to say Casimero will win since his opponent have a power punch to knock out him in the ring so maybe he needs to prepare for that fight since its a big shame for him if he lost since we might not see those big fights to be discussed again once he get defeated by his current opponent.
Just because the clash between John Riel Casimero and Naoya Inoue didn't happen, most people think that Butler is just an easy boxer that can be passed without a problem for Casimero. These people should realize the Butler should not be taken lightly.
But in fairness to Casimero, I think he will prepare fully for this fight and will remain focused. This fight is important because if he will lose it, there's no future with Naoya Inoue now.
October 23, 2021, 05:55:23 PM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
We know Casimero has the advantage of this fight but we cannot assure that he will win knowing that there is no fix match on this and his opponent can able to punch hard which can cause him knockout so he needs to avoid that his opponent will connect a power shot to his face or body so that he will be at good shape on prolong the fight or maybe he should do his best to finish the fight early so that no lucky punches will possibly land and can destroy his good stand these days.
That advantage is only based solely on their record of fights, we cannot guarantee that Casimero will successfully defend his title here as they haven't fought before. This fight although Casimero is not fighting a champion his opponent is known to be an aggressive fighter so we will see an entertaining fight here unlike the last fight of Casimero.
Exactly this happen so many times where what people think the dominant lost to the underdog so its not safe to say Casimero will win since his opponent have a power punch to knock out him in the ring so maybe he needs to prepare for that fight since its a big shame for him if he lost since we might not see those big fights to be discussed again once he get defeated by his current opponent.
October 23, 2021, 04:57:24 PM
This will also prove that if in case Casimero is the real deal. So yes, he should fight whoever is challenging him for the belt. Like Pacquiao, he was not choosy with his opponents, even if those previous opponents were really of big advantage over him. So what Casimero needs to do is beat all those boxers who are good in his division. If he will emerge winner in every match, then, we will know his true power inside the ring.
Casimero doesn't choose his opponents, his promoter does. This Butler fight is mandatory for him to fight and if he chooses not to fight then WBO will strip him of the belt but Casimero has no such plan, in fact, he is already in the US preparing for this fight. The reason why he is calling out some names in his division is that if those names fight him, that could be a lucrative fight for him money-wise.
Casimero is not getting younger, though he has the belt the amount of money he receives as a purse is just a penny compared to what has Manny Pacquiao received during this time of his career.
October 23, 2021, 03:54:32 PM
Although this fight is unfair to him but yeah this is determinant factor to him since once he win this fight for sure he's rank or morale increase on this fight and also he will be notice by other stronger fighter so Casimero should really work since if he finish this and fight Inoue after that for sure he could be earn more praise and be respected more in his division. I strongly believe that Inoue vs Casimero fight will be buyable knowing they already created a hype for their upcoming fight.
Before this mandatory fight of Casimero to Butler came into picture boxing fans were expecting to see Inoue and Casimero both in the same ring fighting for a title but this fight is an ordered fight though the winning cut for Casimero is unfair but he must need to push this fight and hopefully win because this will be his ticket to have more big fights in future. Either a rematch of Casimero to Donaire or the anticipated fight between Casimero and Inoue will be big enough for him.
This will also prove that if in case Casimero is the real deal. So yes, he should fight whoever is challenging him for the belt. Like Pacquiao, he was not choosy with his opponents, even if those previous opponents were really of big advantage over him. So what Casimero needs to do is beat all those boxers who are good in his division. If he will emerge winner in every match, then, we will know his true power inside the ring.
He does not have to prove anything because he is already a real deal, being a champion makes a boxer a real deal and there's no reason for Casimero not to fight the challenger when he is challenging the best fighter in the division now which is Inoue. The main reason why Casimero can choose not to fight is the pot money which is very small, but does not say anything that this fight would not happen, so expect that we will see this fight.
October 23, 2021, 03:43:29 PM
Although this fight is unfair to him but yeah this is determinant factor to him since once he win this fight for sure he's rank or morale increase on this fight and also he will be notice by other stronger fighter so Casimero should really work since if he finish this and fight Inoue after that for sure he could be earn more praise and be respected more in his division. I strongly believe that Inoue vs Casimero fight will be buyable knowing they already created a hype for their upcoming fight.
Before this mandatory fight of Casimero to Butler came into picture boxing fans were expecting to see Inoue and Casimero both in the same ring fighting for a title but this fight is an ordered fight though the winning cut for Casimero is unfair but he must need to push this fight and hopefully win because this will be his ticket to have more big fights in future. Either a rematch of Casimero to Donaire or the anticipated fight between Casimero and Inoue will be big enough for him.
This will also prove that if in case Casimero is the real deal. So yes, he should fight whoever is challenging him for the belt. Like Pacquiao, he was not choosy with his opponents, even if those previous opponents were really of big advantage over him. So what Casimero needs to do is beat all those boxers who are good in his division. If he will emerge winner in every match, then, we will know his true power inside the ring.
October 23, 2021, 03:14:35 PM
Although this fight is unfair to him but yeah this is determinant factor to him since once he win this fight for sure he's rank or morale increase on this fight and also he will be notice by other stronger fighter so Casimero should really work since if he finish this and fight Inoue after that for sure he could be earn more praise and be respected more in his division. I strongly believe that Inoue vs Casimero fight will be buyable knowing they already created a hype for their upcoming fight.
Before this mandatory fight of Casimero to Butler came into picture boxing fans were expecting to see Inoue and Casimero both in the same ring fighting for a title but this fight is an ordered fight though the winning cut for Casimero is unfair but he must need to push this fight and hopefully win because this will be his ticket to have more big fights in future. Either a rematch of Casimero to Donaire or the anticipated fight between Casimero and Inoue will be big enough for him.
October 23, 2021, 08:39:10 AM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
We know Casimero has the advantage of this fight but we cannot assure that he will win knowing that there is no fix match on this and his opponent can able to punch hard which can cause him knockout so he needs to avoid that his opponent will connect a power shot to his face or body so that he will be at good shape on prolong the fight or maybe he should do his best to finish the fight early so that no lucky punches will possibly land and can destroy his good stand these days.
That advantage is only based solely on their record of fights, we cannot guarantee that Casimero will successfully defend his title here as they haven't fought before. This fight although Casimero is not fighting a champion his opponent is known to be an aggressive fighter so we will see an entertaining fight here unlike the last fight of Casimero.
October 23, 2021, 05:24:14 AM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
We know Casimero has the advantage of this fight but we cannot assure that he will win knowing that there is no fix match on this and his opponent can able to punch hard which can cause him knockout so he needs to avoid that his opponent will connect a power shot to his face or body so that he will be at good shape on prolong the fight or maybe he should do his best to finish the fight early so that no lucky punches will possibly land and can destroy his good stand these days.
October 22, 2021, 11:59:17 PM
Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics. though there is a big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
October 22, 2021, 07:45:52 PM
He should not underestimate Butler because it is like his make or break for the next fight. If he will win, then high likely he will ask Inoue again for the next fight. But if he will lose, then I don't think Inoue's camp will agree to fight him because the interest of the audience may not be the same as before. So yes, he should really be serious in this training.
As far as Casimero's mindset is concerned, he's not the type of boxer that will underestimate his opponent. Expect that he's going to be serious fighting Butler.
But agree that if he will lose the match, a chance of fighting Inoue will now have a slim chance to happen. Why should Inoue fight a contender that comes from losing on the recent fight?
Before thinking that, let's just wait for the result first.
This is a winnable fight for Casimero, he just need to finish the job and then we can talk about Inoue later. And if he losses, not sure if there is a rematch clause, but if there is, then he can exercise it. However, the fight will Inoue will delay and maybe Donaire will got to him early (if Donaire wins).
So still a lot of options for Casimero, but definitely, winning here will give him a huge paycheck against Inoue next year. Regardless if the fight are going to be held in US or in Japan.
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