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promoters delay fights in order to hype them and they expect their fighter to win any fight they have until they can arrange the big fight that is going to bring them all of that money,

Isn't it the most common thing to do? With the pandemic happening for over a year, going back to good and high numbers of the audience is not possible yet.

Arranging a certain fight is too expensive and serious. Without a hype on the certain fight they will arrange, how can they cover the amount they have used? If only it's just simple to arrange the fight, we should now see good names battling each other. It's not that simple and to compensate those responsible people or individuals that make the fight happen, the match should be hype. More hype means more money.

Without a doubt it is a standard strategy that promoters use all the time, I am just pointing out that this strategy like almost any strategy that we can come up in any market has some flaws, a fighter no matter how good they are even if the odds of winning are clearly on their favor can always have a bad night while the opponent can give the fight of their lives and as such they lose, and then all the hype that was generated around the fighter dissipates and even worse it becomes disappointment as people realize he was not close to what the hype implied.

That's why betting on the underdog is profitable if you see the value of a fighter that could potentially beat the favorites. Oddsmakers just follow what the public thinks, and if a fighter is hyped enough then most probably the odds are overvalued which makes betting on the underdog more profitable.

It depends on how much of an underdog we are talking about, if the odds say it is almost impossible for the underdog to win maybe it is better to save yourself the trouble and keep your money, but if the underdog is not that far away from the favorite of the public then it is a good idea to place a bet on the underdog as you will have decent chances of winning the bet while at the same time you receive great odds while doing so.

Not all big odd or too wide spread between favorites and underdogs does signify that it would have that high chances of winning than with the favorites.Based up on all years that i have dealt with gambling there are indeed times which big odds do able to snatch up some win
and this is on where bettors do really differ when it comes into their betting behavior or habits and analysis

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Quote from: Silberman on October 29, 2021, 12:14:48 PM

promoters delay fights in order to hype them and they expect their fighter to win any fight they have until they can arrange the big fight that is going to bring them all of that money,

Isn't it the most common thing to do? With the pandemic happening for over a year, going back to good and high numbers of the audience is not possible yet.

Arranging a certain fight is too expensive and serious. Without a hype on the certain fight they will arrange, how can they cover the amount they have used? If only it's just simple to arrange the fight, we should now see good names battling each other. It's not that simple and to compensate those responsible people or individuals that make the fight happen, the match should be hype. More hype means more money.

Without a doubt it is a standard strategy that promoters use all the time, I am just pointing out that this strategy like almost any strategy that we can come up in any market has some flaws, a fighter no matter how good they are even if the odds of winning are clearly on their favor can always have a bad night while the opponent can give the fight of their lives and as such they lose, and then all the hype that was generated around the fighter dissipates and even worse it becomes disappointment as people realize he was not close to what the hype implied.

That's why betting on the underdog is profitable if you see the value of a fighter that could potentially beat the favorites. Oddsmakers just follow what the public thinks, and if a fighter is hyped enough then most probably the odds are overvalued which makes betting on the underdog more profitable.

It depends on how much of an underdog we are talking about, if the odds say it is almost impossible for the underdog to win maybe it is better to save yourself the trouble and keep your money, but if the underdog is not that far away from the favorite of the public then it is a good idea to place a bet on the underdog as you will have decent chances of winning the bet while at the same time you receive great odds while doing so.

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If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

Unfortunately this is a very old topic and yet nothing ever changes, promoters are in it for the money and not to give fans what they want and if that means they need to have both of their fighters avoid each other so be it, even if technically a fight among them will be easy to organize due to having the same promoter, but that is not what the promoter want, they want to extract as much money as possible from their fighters and that means delaying the big fight for as long as they can.

Its natural for promoter to go after the money since in the end of the day this is still a business and they want to wide spread hype so that they can possibly maximize their profit so its up to the fighter on how they perform since if they can able to win their match for sure they can take home a bigger prize than what they get on their previous match. For sure next assignment of Casimero will be Inoue if he could take this win.

Right, it's all business for them, nothing is personal, they are here in the business of making money.
So boxers win, maybe by knock out or something, they have more boxing fans. Then promoters create around by in the boxing money.

But yeah, eventually Casimero vs Inoue will be schedule. Arum knows that, he is just waiting for the right timing so that they can make a lot of money out of it.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 03, 2021, 06:59:40 AM

If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

Unfortunately this is a very old topic and yet nothing ever changes, promoters are in it for the money and not to give fans what they want and if that means they need to have both of their fighters avoid each other so be it, even if technically a fight among them will be easy to organize due to having the same promoter, but that is not what the promoter want, they want to extract as much money as possible from their fighters and that means delaying the big fight for as long as they can.

Its natural for promoter to go after the money since in the end of the day this is still a business and they want to wide spread hype so that they can possibly maximize their profit so its up to the fighter on how they perform since if they can able to win their match for sure they can take home a bigger prize than what they get on their previous match. For sure next assignment of Casimero will be Inoue if he could take this win.

It is indeed a business and just like with other sports on where organizations/promters would definitely trying to hype a certain match up where it could

really be on intentional delays via those mandatory fights.No one actually knows on whats happening behind the curtains.Whats sure on here is that they

do really make things even more longer and thrilling because once hype and interest is created then that means that it is more money for them.
Business as usual.

The hype about their upcoming fight is little bit raw that's why their promoter think about possible ways just to create surprise noise and this fight cast so that the fans will thirst more to see the fight will come unto them, that's why we see so many people speculate more about the upcoming fights so now let see if Donaire and Casimero will succeed in their own battles since if both of them win for sure we can see another big fights coming to them.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2021, 08:35:36 AM

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

Arum is protecting Casimero? lol. If there's a gem in Casimero, then it's the other way around and Arum will always arrange a fight for him. Look at Pacquiao, always have a match. That's the proper treatment to build a boxer, get the fight as much as possible. What are you saying is, Arum is choosing a fight where Casimero will have a chance to win. It's not that way.

I think what Dave1 trying to say is that Arum is protecting Inoue, his cash cow.

Casimero is a great boxer, he does not back up to anyone, even Inoue who has a good knockout ratio, but why is it until now they are still not accepting the challenge by arranging a fight? That's one of the reasons why some people are thinking that Arum could be afraid of risking his cash cow as he knows Casimero has a good chance of winning the fight.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2021, 08:35:36 AM

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

Arum is protecting Casimero? lol. If there's a gem in Casimero, then it's the other way around and Arum will always arrange a fight for him. Look at Pacquiao, always have a match. That's the proper treatment to build a boxer, get the fight as much as possible. What are you saying is, Arum is choosing a fight where Casimero will have a chance to win. It's not that way.

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Quote from: South Park on November 03, 2021, 04:35:14 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 03, 2021, 06:59:40 AM

If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

Unfortunately this is a very old topic and yet nothing ever changes, promoters are in it for the money and not to give fans what they want and if that means they need to have both of their fighters avoid each other so be it, even if technically a fight among them will be easy to organize due to having the same promoter, but that is not what the promoter want, they want to extract as much money as possible from their fighters and that means delaying the big fight for as long as they can.

Its natural for promoter to go after the money since in the end of the day this is still a business and they want to wide spread hype so that they can possibly maximize their profit so its up to the fighter on how they perform since if they can able to win their match for sure they can take home a bigger prize than what they get on their previous match. For sure next assignment of Casimero will be Inoue if he could take this win.

It is indeed a business and just like with other sports on where organizations/promters would definitely trying to hype a certain match up where it could

really be on intentional delays via those mandatory fights.No one actually knows on whats happening behind the curtains.Whats sure on here is that they

do really make things even more longer and thrilling because once hype and interest is created then that means that it is more money for them.
Business as usual.

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Quote from: South Park on November 03, 2021, 04:35:14 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 03, 2021, 06:59:40 AM

If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

Unfortunately this is a very old topic and yet nothing ever changes, promoters are in it for the money and not to give fans what they want and if that means they need to have both of their fighters avoid each other so be it, even if technically a fight among them will be easy to organize due to having the same promoter, but that is not what the promoter want, they want to extract as much money as possible from their fighters and that means delaying the big fight for as long as they can.

Its natural for promoter to go after the money since in the end of the day this is still a business and they want to wide spread hype so that they can possibly maximize their profit so its up to the fighter on how they perform since if they can able to win their match for sure they can take home a bigger prize than what they get on their previous match. For sure next assignment of Casimero will be Inoue if he could take this win.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 03, 2021, 06:59:40 AM

If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

Unfortunately this is a very old topic and yet nothing ever changes, promoters are in it for the money and not to give fans what they want and if that means they need to have both of their fighters avoid each other so be it, even if technically a fight among them will be easy to organize due to having the same promoter, but that is not what the promoter want, they want to extract as much money as possible from their fighters and that means delaying the big fight for as long as they can.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 03, 2021, 06:18:37 AM

Just like when Shakur won against Herring, fans are being calling for a Valdez showdown. But Arum avoided that but instead Shakur and Valdez will have to fac a different fighter.

If they are under the same promotion, then most probably we will not see them fight soon.

Bor Arum is probably the oldest promoter that is alive now, he knows how to play the game and he will make sure that his player will give him long term income, and because of that, it makes boxing boring as it puts money first before anything else instead of fighting the best boxer's then money will come next.

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But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

Casimero should find a way to knock out his opponent to show everyone that he reached the peak of the battle in their division and all he needs to fight is Inoue because we cannot deny that he is also getting old and he might lose some of his skills and stamina and they delayed the fight next year. I mean, what's really the problem of how they weren't able to do anything to make this fight come true? I hope they won't consider money as the priority if they really wanted to be the unified champion in their division, they should fight whoever is strong.

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

On the side note,

Arum may also want to bring more hypes, allowing Casimero to chase Inoue. Knowing how blatant the mouth of Casimero, he can throw more trash talks and bring more attentions to the boxing world.

Arum is very well-known to keep his cash-cows bringing him more money. With Casimero's fame, the call for the fight will hype up and surely gain a huge amount of money.

Send the message and Arum will continue to avoid it, to possible in getting more interesting offers..

On the contrary, Arum should be afraid of Casimero, and he might not be willing to set him against Inoue. I have a feeling that if ever Casimero wins in a brutal fashion, the more he will avoid Casimero because he doesn't wanted his cash cow to be damage. Just like when Shakur won against Herring, fans are being calling for a Valdez showdown. But Arum avoided that but instead Shakur and Valdez will have to fac a different fighter.

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This is going to be a very easy fight for Casimero. Butler is just a food served on a plate for Casimero. I predict this will be a walk in the park for him. But he should still be in his perfect form when facing Butler to avoid possible upset.

Hopefully it will be an easy fight for Casimero, just like you said so that he can rest his body on to the next fight with either Donaire or Inoue. But boxer with Casimero's experience knows that there's no walk in the park fight.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 24, 2021, 10:02:42 PM

This fight will be like his warm up fight for a possible bigger match right after. There might still be a Casimero vs. Donaire or even Casimero vs. Naoya Inoue after this battle. So he should be prepared and come strong in this conditioning match.

Again, it really up to Casimero to still prepare hard and not underestimate Butler. He is the mandatory so for sure he is also very durable fighter as he made it to the number 1 contender category.

At this point I already catalog this fight as favorable for Casimero, I would never say that Butler is weak or that he is below him, the mere fact of thinking that the statistics are reviewed by Butler, as an athlete and high performance athlete wants to change those numbers, in addition to that in boxing the reputation of each boxer is everything and it is what makes it possible to give more excitement for everyone.

We shouldn't think Butler is weak. It's a mandatory fight that was given to Casimero which means they are in the same league.

Favorites or not, they are both equal to me but Casimero is more hyped here because mostly, users here are based on PH like me.

Well it's not that it's weaker, just that I've seen a lot of comments, not only here in the forum, I've also seen some comments in telegram groups, on social networks, of course I am a person who at the time also trained boxing, and That is why I say, for a fight everything depends on the type of training, for me it is essential that if the training is harder than that of the opponent, it has an 80% probability of winning, if it is demanding enough for the level of fight, in addition It should also be taken into account that that day the person is 100% well, without any discomfort, for now Casimero handles very good numbers, but anything can happen.

Every match is always depend on players condition and if they just relax theirselves and belittle their opponent then a higher chance for underdog on this fight to win this fight, since proper training and studying the movement of your opponent is very much important since this could bring a higher chances for the fighter to win the fight. And its not good for anyone to take their cool since everything could happen inside the ring.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 01, 2021, 06:54:44 PM

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 24, 2021, 10:02:42 PM

This is going to be a very easy fight for Casimero. Butler is just a food served on a plate for Casimero. I predict this will be a walk in the park for him. But he should still be in his perfect form when facing Butler to avoid possible upset.

Hopefully it will be an easy fight for Casimero, just like you said so that he can rest his body on to the next fight with either Donaire or Inoue. But boxer with Casimero's experience knows that there's no walk in the park fight.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 24, 2021, 10:02:42 PM

This fight will be like his warm up fight for a possible bigger match right after. There might still be a Casimero vs. Donaire or even Casimero vs. Naoya Inoue after this battle. So he should be prepared and come strong in this conditioning match.

Again, it really up to Casimero to still prepare hard and not underestimate Butler. He is the mandatory so for sure he is also very durable fighter as he made it to the number 1 contender category.

At this point I already catalog this fight as favorable for Casimero, I would never say that Butler is weak or that he is below him, the mere fact of thinking that the statistics are reviewed by Butler, as an athlete and high performance athlete wants to change those numbers, in addition to that in boxing the reputation of each boxer is everything and it is what makes it possible to give more excitement for everyone.

We shouldn't think Butler is weak. It's a mandatory fight that was given to Casimero which means they are in the same league.

Favorites or not, they are both equal to me but Casimero is more hyped here because mostly, users here are based on PH like me.

Well it's not that it's weaker, just that I've seen a lot of comments, not only here in the forum, I've also seen some comments in telegram groups, on social networks, of course I am a person who at the time also trained boxing, and That is why I say, for a fight everything depends on the type of training, for me it is essential that if the training is harder than that of the opponent, it has an 80% probability of winning, if it is demanding enough for the level of fight, in addition It should also be taken into account that that day the person is 100% well, without any discomfort, for now Casimero handles very good numbers, but anything can happen.

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But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

Casimero should find a way to knock out his opponent to show everyone that he reached the peak of the battle in their division and all he needs to fight is Inoue because we cannot deny that he is also getting old and he might lose some of his skills and stamina and they delayed the fight next year. I mean, what's really the problem of how they weren't able to do anything to make this fight come true? I hope they won't consider money as the priority if they really wanted to be the unified champion in their division, they should fight whoever is strong.

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

We couldnt tell if that would be the case but to know that organizers would always have the final say when it comes to arrangement of fights then it would be understandable that there's no guarantee
that it would be an assurance that everything would be set out if ever Casimero would win this one but at least this do really shows off that he could really able to with par with Inoue
if he would make out some good knock out with this upcoming fight.There's no denial that it would already be in line.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 01, 2021, 07:55:35 PM

Well, it's kind of tactic for them to generate a revenue and hype on social media or other thing they can think of is a good thing. With the pandemic still a thing it wouldn't be easy as it seems for boxing arrangements these days. Exactly, it isn't only the fighters they should think of for this kind of fight, there are other staffs to think for.

True to that, there should be the arrangement that will be favorable to all of them. That's why on this match, there's not that much bid and maybe it won't be maximized the potential profit for this match when it's already there.
But still, it's for the fans and for the both boxers that will give their all onto this match despite there's a turning of event that it should be the other opponent, Casimero accepted it and won't sacrifice for the consequence if he did declined.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2021, 08:35:36 AM

Quote from: yazher on November 02, 2021, 08:01:58 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on November 02, 2021, 07:26:01 AM

But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

Casimero should find a way to knock out his opponent to show everyone that he reached the peak of the battle in their division and all he needs to fight is Inoue because we cannot deny that he is also getting old and he might lose some of his skills and stamina and they delayed the fight next year. I mean, what's really the problem of how they weren't able to do anything to make this fight come true? I hope they won't consider money as the priority if they really wanted to be the unified champion in their division, they should fight whoever is strong.

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

On the side note,

Arum may also want to bring more hypes, allowing Casimero to chase Inoue. Knowing how blatant the mouth of Casimero, he can throw more trash talks and bring more attentions to the boxing world.

Arum is very well-known to keep his cash-cows bringing him more money. With Casimero's fame, the call for the fight will hype up and surely gain a huge amount of money.

Send the message and Arum will continue to avoid it, to possible in getting more interesting offers..

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Quote from: yazher on November 02, 2021, 08:01:58 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on November 02, 2021, 07:26:01 AM

But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

Casimero should find a way to knock out his opponent to show everyone that he reached the peak of the battle in their division and all he needs to fight is Inoue because we cannot deny that he is also getting old and he might lose some of his skills and stamina and they delayed the fight next year. I mean, what's really the problem of how they weren't able to do anything to make this fight come true? I hope they won't consider money as the priority if they really wanted to be the unified champion in their division, they should fight whoever is strong.

Yes, that's what I wanted to see in this fight, a brutal knock out win by Casimero to send the message to all bantamweights specially Inoue. So that they can't avoid him as much as they want to. For sure Arum is protecting him because he wanted to build him like Pacquiao. So he carefully places him and chooses who he should fight to avoid Casimero. But if Casimero wins in an emphatic way here, he is now sending a mesage to Top Rank to make the fight.

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Quote from: Vaculin on November 02, 2021, 07:26:01 AM

But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

Casimero should find a way to knock out his opponent to show everyone that he reached the peak of the battle in their division and all he needs to fight is Inoue because we cannot deny that he is also getting old and he might lose some of his skills and stamina and they delayed the fight next year. I mean, what's really the problem of how they weren't able to do anything to make this fight come true? I hope they won't consider money as the priority if they really wanted to be the unified champion in their division, they should fight whoever is strong.

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Arranging a certain fight is too expensive and serious. Without a hype on the certain fight they will arrange, how can they cover the amount they have used? If only it's just simple to arrange the fight, we should now see good names battling each other. It's not that simple and to compensate those responsible people or individuals that make the fight happen, the match should be hype. More hype means more money.

Well, it's kind of tactic for them to generate a revenue and hype on social media or other thing they can think of is a good thing. With the pandemic still a thing it wouldn't be easy as it seems for boxing arrangements these days. Exactly, it isn't only the fighters they should think of for this kind of fight, there are other staffs to think for.

But they have to find a way to make a profit on this fight as this fight will happen since it's a mandatory fight. Both fighters are just waiting for the schedule of the fight to be announced by the promoter so they will start their training. Don't make that promotional thing the main concern here, it should be the readiness of the boxer as without them, no fight will happen.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 01, 2021, 06:54:44 PM

We shouldn't think Butler is weak. It's a mandatory fight that was given to Casimero which means they are in the same league.

Favorites or not, they are both equal to me but Casimero is more hyped here because mostly, users here are based on PH like me.

The boxers aren't underestimating their opponents, and if they do, it's part of their stance when they're being approached by the media and they have to look stronger at all times because it boosts their morale if they're talking about belittling their opponents.

But for sure that they do respect each of their opponent's capacity and capability when it's inside the ring. While we fans, we shouldn't really underestimate even if we're die-hard fans to boxers like Casimero or anyone that we're looking up.

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