[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 12.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 18, 2023, 02:07:36 PM

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight. I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are. I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out. After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia. I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse. Seems like Tank needs to humbling.

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

We will find out if Crawford vs. Spence will actually happen this time. If it was just an April Fools joke, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we will see the big fight between Garcia and Davis. I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 18, 2023, 02:07:36 PM

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight. I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are. I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out. After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia. I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse. Seems like Tank needs to humbling.

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 18, 2023, 02:07:36 PM

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight. I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are. I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out. After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia. I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse. Seems like Tank needs to humbling.

At first thought, I am the same as Ryan Garcia was saying here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLqpTCe2LkU
"The Purse" the one that Tank Davis brought during the press conference. Cheesy

Hilarious. Maybe that's what Tank Davis thought, that purse only and not the whole money that will be given in the fight. But Garcia has a different idea, all or nothing.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tank-garcia-agree-bet-entire-fight-purse-during-instagram-live-session--173952

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“Have Al [Haymon, Davis’s adviser] write up the contract,” Davis insisted to an undisclosed team member. “Whoever win get the other fighter’s purse. I’m dead serious. We on the Live right now. We’re betting the whole purse.”

Why the challenge? Simply because Garcia is not getting much money out of this fight. It may be a marketing strategy or he is deadly serious that he wants the part that Davis will earn from this fight.
Around $2.5M will be received by Garcia and $5M for Davis. Well, if I were Davis I may not agree with it. Plus, he does have the upper hand for a rematch while Garcia doesn't have that leverage. But the ego will always win. Let's see if the contract will materialize or if this is all just social media talk to boost their PPV subscribers and get more money.
Who video calls their opponent when the fight is near? It's kind of Brokeback Mountain. Cheesy

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 18, 2023, 12:51:22 AM

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Quote from: yazher on April 17, 2023, 03:05:30 PM

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

We never know, but your point is valid. Right now, the odds are based on the bookies' evaluation of their previous fights. Since Davis has more convincing wins and is the better fighter based on many aspects, he is now listed as the heavy favorite. However, that could change in a rematch if there is one. If there is a rematch, that means Garcia would win, as Davis doesn't give rematches if he wins this fight.

It might happen as pay to respect for the winning side but I also think that if ever that there's a rematch and if the flow of bets would be sided to Tank there might be some changes from bookies, especially if the win is questionable in the first matchup, there's also possibilities that Davis may still get the side from the bookies.

Let's talk about that after we witness the first matchup, then we will see after that if what will happen next.

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Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight. I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are. I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out. After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia. I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse. Seems like Tank needs to humbling.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 17, 2023, 08:41:18 PM

Quote from: yazher on April 17, 2023, 03:05:30 PM

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

We never know, but your point is valid. Right now, the odds are based on the bookies' evaluation of their previous fights. Since Davis has more convincing wins and is the better fighter based on many aspects, he is now listed as the heavy favorite. However, that could change in a rematch if there is one. If there is a rematch, that means Garcia would win, as Davis doesn't give rematches if he wins this fight.

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Quote from: yazher on April 17, 2023, 03:05:30 PM

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

With him getting this huge challenge such as this one, it's really obvious that he is practicing a counterattack that will gonna successfully land on Davis and that's the thing I really wanted to see from him. We may not gonna see this fight reaching the last rounds since both are known to be huge power punchers and can actually surprise us with their unique techniques to win this fight. I hope it will be turned out just how we thought would be and surely it will have a second fight if they can give each other a hard time. Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 17, 2023, 08:56:22 AM

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Well, I guess that is already expected that anyone on Ryan Garcia's camp will not give any specific details about their preparation as that will spoil the opposite camp and give them an advantage if a specific detail will leak. But I sure do hope that Ryan Garcia's more swifty now because Goosen has said that for years already that they were training Ryan to be more agile but that's not what we saw in his recent fights. He's still open and easy to read by experienced boxer, like Davis.

Garcia badly needs that good lateral movement in the ring, because I'm sure Tank will find a way to land his punches on the sweet spot which is Ryan's chin, Tank has a sound defense he has good footwork, and know how to counter punches.

Yeah, Garcia needs lateral movement paired with job and straight punches to keep distance and make Davis at bay. We all know Garcia has huge reach advantage, doing such kind of performance and strategy would increase his chance of winning.

Quote from: coin-investor on April 17, 2023, 08:56:22 AM

It's going to be a battle of who can land first but no way this fight will end in a decision, both fighters will want to knock their opponent out, there's no slugfest that's going to happen, and will wait for each other to make a mistake.
I have this feeling that this fight ould become a candidate for a fight of the year.

I also think that the fight will end in a KO. Who will kiss the canvass is unknown though because, both of them are capable of knocking their opponent. So yeah, the fight is about a matter of who hits clean first.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 17, 2023, 08:56:22 AM

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Well, I guess that is already expected that anyone on Ryan Garcia's camp will not give any specific details about their preparation as that will spoil the opposite camp and give them an advantage if a specific detail will leak. But I sure do hope that Ryan Garcia's more swifty now because Goosen has said that for years already that they were training Ryan to be more agile but that's not what we saw in his recent fights. He's still open and easy to read by experienced boxer, like Davis.

Garcia badly needs that good lateral movement in the ring, because I'm sure Tank will find a way to land his punches on the sweet spot which is Ryan's chin, Tank has a sound defense he has good footwork, and know how to counter punches.
It's going to be a battle of who can land first but no way this fight will end in a decision, both fighters will want to knock their opponent out, there's no slugfest that's going to happen, and will wait for each other to make a mistake.
I have this feeling that this fight ould become a candidate for a fight of the year.

If Garcia will stay on that same fighting style which I hope he won't as you mentioned Davis is a good experienced fighter who can read his opponent's footworks, if Garcia will show that same level of fighting strategy Davis will easily counter him and a big possibility of land a solid punches and maybe will bring Garcia down.

We can only say if there're changes in Garcia's lateral once we see him fighting, that adjustment can help him a lot to surprise Davis.

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Quote from: stadus on April 15, 2023, 04:25:24 PM

Well, I guess that is already expected that anyone on Ryan Garcia's camp will not give any specific details about their preparation as that will spoil the opposite camp and give them an advantage if a specific detail will leak. But I sure do hope that Ryan Garcia's more swifty now because Goosen has said that for years already that they were training Ryan to be more agile but that's not what we saw in his recent fights. He's still open and easy to read by experienced boxer, like Davis.

Garcia badly needs that good lateral movement in the ring, because I'm sure Tank will find a way to land his punches on the sweet spot which is Ryan's chin, Tank has a sound defense he has good footwork, and know how to counter punches.
It's going to be a battle of who can land first but no way this fight will end in a decision, both fighters will want to knock their opponent out, there's no slugfest that's going to happen, and will wait for each other to make a mistake.
I have this feeling that this fight ould become a candidate for a fight of the year.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 17, 2023, 07:38:18 AM

My other idea to maximize the profits is betting for what round it will end if ever this doesn't go in a long fight like what we are wishing for.

Round 1-3 and Round 4-6 range seems to be a decent win. What do you guys think? 4-6 and 7-9, maybe?

I don't expect an easy win in this fight, so I tend to think 10-12 is more likely will happen or 7-9 if you think either of them will win via KO. Garcia is having a good comeback when he was fought against Luke Campbell, while Tank is having a good technical skill and a good chin.

But who knows if your pick are correct, just like the previous 2 bets you're correctly predict Shakur win via KO and Tapales win over Akhmadaliev Grin

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 17, 2023, 06:45:43 AM

If not for that rehydration clause, i think Ryan Garcia has the upper hand in this fight because we saw that Davis was having trouble fighting a taller boxer than him like Hector Garcia though he recovered in the tail end of the fight but that scenario doesn't occur every time, especially in Ryan's caliber.

Hope Ryan's stamina could sustain for him to last the 12 rounds but with him having a weak chin like we saw in the Campbell fight, sooner or later Davis' will catch him with that fatal blow which i hope again that won't happen because i'm betting for this fight to go the distance.

Davis by decision is so tempting, isn't it?

Oh yeah. It is tempting. So most analysts are expecting this fight to win via KO that's why they are giving a lot of money to those who will be betting on a decision. I am glad you found that and it's actually increasing. It is @7.00 now. At Sportsbet, I think you will need the booster to reach that amount.
Davis @1.39 at a win is not appealing.
Davis @1.64 at the win by KO seems to be low too.
My other idea to maximize the profits is betting for what round it will end if ever this doesn't go in a long fight like what we are wishing for.

Round 1-3 and Round 4-6 range seems to be a decent win. What do you guys think? 4-6 and 7-9, maybe?

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

If not for that rehydration clause, i think Ryan Garcia has the upper hand in this fight because we saw that Davis was having trouble fighting a taller boxer than him like Hector Garcia though he recovered in the tail end of the fight but that scenario doesn't occur every time, especially in Ryan's caliber.

Hope Ryan's stamina could sustain for him to last the 12 rounds but with him having a weak chin like we saw in the Campbell fight, sooner or later Davis' will catch him with that fatal blow which i hope again that won't happen because i'm betting for this fight to go the distance.

Davis by decision is so tempting, isn't it?

Yes, that odds is so juicy, but it might be a trap though, I mean both can really knock each other out so the chances of the fight going to distance is slim in my opinion. But if there are gamblers who are willing to take that risk, then we can't question them.

I wouldn't say that he has a weak chin or we can call it weak chin. He was able to rise and go back in the fight and knock out Campbell with a body shot. If he has a weak chin then he could not have recovered from that and remain in the canvass.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

If not for that rehydration clause, i think Ryan Garcia has the upper hand in this fight because we saw that Davis was having trouble fighting a taller boxer than him like Hector Garcia though he recovered in the tail end of the fight but that scenario doesn't occur every time, especially in Ryan's caliber.

Hope Ryan's stamina could sustain for him to last the 12 rounds but with him having a weak chin like we saw in the Campbell fight, sooner or later Davis' will catch him with that fatal blow which i hope again that won't happen because i'm betting for this fight to go the distance.

Davis by decision is so tempting, isn't it?

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Quote from: roslinpl on April 16, 2023, 04:27:11 PM

Tank had huge advantage in this game, because he had good stamina and people with huge stamina will win the game. Davis had good stamina and strength in recent days. So most gamblers prefer Davis to make their betting rather than Ryan. Davis game can knock out the opponent Ryan. So Ryan should improve their game in short run, being a good fan of Ryan. It’s my opinion towards him.The match between Davis and Garcia was very different one. David had the best match against Ryan in previous seasons was great. David had more will power then a Ryan, some people support Ryan because of his old matches. We need to accept the truth of current match situation, Ryan stamina for now is very low.

Yes, I understand that stamina is really one of the few factors why boxers got some advantage over, but I think in this case that we have now, stamina will be needed of course but it's not as needed like the other fights we witnessed because Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis are both a KO specialist. Therefore, it will be a battle of who will land that lethal punch first and will be a battle of who got a better defense, and not a battle of survival until the end of 12th round.

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Tank had huge advantage in this game, because he had good stamina and people with huge stamina will win the game. Davis had good stamina and strength in recent days. So most gamblers prefer Davis to make their betting rather than Ryan. Davis game can knock out the opponent Ryan. So Ryan should improve their game in short run, being a good fan of Ryan. It’s my opinion towards him.The match between Davis and Garcia was very different one. David had the best match against Ryan in previous seasons was great. David had more will power then a Ryan, some people support Ryan because of his old matches. We need to accept the truth of current match situation, Ryan stamina for now is very low.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

Well both camps are preparing hard, even though many thinks that Davis has the advantage, I think we cannot underestimate Ryan Garcia in this fight. He is also capable of knocking his opponent. So we cannot determine the winner of the fight just because of the records and their talks on social media. The actual fight will determine the result and it is coming.

This reminds me of one of the favorite clip I watched during the conference of Davis and Garcia fight. It is a scenario where Ryan was telling the masses that he has lots of ways to beat Davis and then Davis but in and made Ryan speechless.

Here is the clip of the said argument: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ivQeFCpiE_Q

It will be a matter of who got a better preparation and who is more mentally ready in the day of their fight, we already saw that both of them isn't backing up even an inch, so I'll take that as a hint that neither is willing to give an easy fight and that makes this fight more interesting to see. Advantage or disadvantage, both of them got the weapon of destruction.

That said, few more days to go and we will finally see this most anticipated fight of the year.

Yes, more on how both fighters and their camps will set the preparation to make sure that they are completely condition during the fight.

Both fighters are well-known knock out artist, if given the chance for sure they will do everything to throw that solid combination to KO one another.

Experienced and capability to adjust will lead the fighter to win the fight.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 15, 2023, 05:42:20 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

Well both camps are preparing hard, even though many thinks that Davis has the advantage, I think we cannot underestimate Ryan Garcia in this fight. He is also capable of knocking his opponent. So we cannot determine the winner of the fight just because of the records and their talks on social media. The actual fight will determine the result and it is coming.

This reminds me of one of the favorite clip I watched during the conference of Davis and Garcia fight. It is a scenario where Ryan was telling the masses that he has lots of ways to beat Davis and then Davis but in and made Ryan speechless.

Here is the clip of the said argument: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ivQeFCpiE_Q

It will be a matter of who got a better preparation and who is more mentally ready in the day of their fight, we already saw that both of them isn't backing up even an inch, so I'll take that as a hint that neither is willing to give an easy fight and that makes this fight more interesting to see. Advantage or disadvantage, both of them got the weapon of destruction.

That said, few more days to go and we will finally see this most anticipated fight of the year.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

Well both camps are preparing hard, even though many thinks that Davis has the advantage, I think we cannot underestimate Ryan Garcia in this fight. He is also capable of knocking his opponent. So we cannot determine the winner of the fight just because of the records and their talks on social media. The actual fight will determine the result and it is coming.

This reminds me of one of the favorite clip I watched during the conference of Davis and Garcia fight. It is a scenario where Ryan was telling the masses that he has lots of ways to beat Davis and then Davis but in and made Ryan speechless.

Here is the clip of the said argument: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ivQeFCpiE_Q

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