[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 9.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 23, 2023, 12:45:57 PM

As for the fight, I was rooting for Garcia, but he looks very amateurish against this version of Tank Davis.

In the post fight interview, Garcia said that he can't breath from that body punch and said that he can't stand.

It somehow clear that the last minute bettors wagered for Ryan Garcia, hence the sudden change of odds.

Can't even blame them because the kid does really have the talent needed to defeat another knockout specialist, Gervonta Davis, it's just that he lacks the experience needed as we can really see their difference when the fight started. Tank made some mistakes too but he was still smarter than ever and baited Garcia to over extend until he can make that nice counter in the 2nd round.

Kudos to Davis, what a great prediction because the fight really ended in the 7th round, just like what he said.

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Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

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Worth the price of admission. That body shot was brutal. Is there a guaranteed scheduled rematch for this fight. I'd like to see a round 2 of this one. Thought at one point this one will go the distance. What were the odds on a Davis tko?I layer off I couldn't decide one way or another.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 23, 2023, 10:52:46 AM

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Did anyone see a confirmation on Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence to fight on June 17 or is this confirmed to be really an April Fools joke? I am waiting more than 1 hour for the announcement.

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I don't know if I missed the announcement or I was just busy on my day because right after the Tank vs Davis fight ended, I directly tuned up for the NBA games because in that same hour, it's still the LAL vs MEM (Game 3). But since you mentioned this now, I directly rushed to search it on google if there was indeed any announcement made regarding about the Terence vs Crawford fight but no, there wasn't any. Another disappointment, IBF should now make their move to give the mandatory fight.

I already said in the other thread that there's none, no announcement that is going to be made about the supposedly fight of Spence and Crawford. Most likely it's just a promotional trick for this fight.

As for the fight, I was rooting for Garcia, but he looks very amateurish against this version of Tank Davis.

In the post fight interview, Garcia said that he can't breath from that body punch and said that he can't stand.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 23, 2023, 06:38:32 AM

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight,

He's ripe and we can see it to his record but Tank Davis is just so good for him. Davis exposed his weaknesses very well that's why he totally dominated him and got a huge victory on their fight.

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

Yes, he really exposed Ryan's lack of movement, not his punching power, but as he have said in the press con before the fight, Ryan weakness is his head movement. And then Tank's setting up trap for Ryan that's why he caught him up with that powerful left in the second. The good thing about Ryan is that he has good recuperation, that's why he was able to stand up and continue to fight.

But no one can recover from that body blow, it was a perfect punch to the liver. Most likely it's like the same punch that knockout his manager Oscar Dela Hoya against Bernard Hopkins when the two fought.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 23, 2023, 06:38:32 AM

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

Or maybe he should go up in weight at 140 lbs, I thought that he won't be looking drain at 135 lbs, but for me it seems to be case. But I do agree that there's nothing to be ashamed of losing to Tank, he acknowledge his lost already so maybe he will have to move on.

Gervonta is a special fighting, not seeing anyone that can beat him at 135 lbs, not even Devin Haney in my opinion.

He has good defense too and he is still improving. So let's see if the winner of Haney vs Loma will be interested on him next.

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Did anyone see a confirmation on Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence to fight on June 17 or is this confirmed to be really an April Fools joke? I am waiting more than 1 hour for the announcement.

I don't know if I missed the announcement or I was just busy on my day because right after the Tank vs Davis fight ended, I directly tuned up for the NBA games because in that same hour, it's still the LAL vs MEM (Game 3). But since you mentioned this now, I directly rushed to search it on google if there was indeed any announcement made regarding about the Terence vs Crawford fight but no, there wasn't any. Another disappointment, IBF should now make their move to give the mandatory fight.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 23, 2023, 06:38:32 AM

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight,

He's ripe and we can see it to his record but Tank Davis is just so good for him. Davis exposed his weaknesses very well that's why he totally dominated him and got a huge victory on their fight.

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

Yes, Ryan Garcia doesn't need to fret about this fight because after all, it's not a total loss on his side because there's an experience which he learned from it. That same experience will be his guide and be the reason to step up his fight even more to be more unpredictable because Tank Davis literally exposed him. Being strong is not about being undefeated, it is about how you stand up after you stumble.

Nonetheless, Ryan Garcia somehow improved on that fight like his defense has been improved wherein his past fights, you can't see him really guarding himself because he was too focused giving the offensive strikes. But even that is not enough to take on Gervonta Davis, better luck next time.

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Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

Yes, it is, the same punch, Ryan is too defensive on his chin that he forgot that he is fighting a small guy and his body is vulnerable to a liver punch, Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight, too anxious, prone to careless moves not good in defense, when he attacks he opens a room for a counter punch, that's because he has never faced a guy like Gervonta who is almost flawless in his moves and defense.

I wonder what's next for Ryan, losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

The first round Garcia had a good left hand from a distance, in general a good round, but what did he do next, he started to do something incomprehensible, why did he go forward on Tank instead of using the advantage of his height? Of course, Tank took advantage of this and struck from below, a very blunder by Garcia. By the fifth round, Garcia began to move a little more confidently, but he also did something that was not clear, a blow and a step back, it was not clear what the reason was, he might be very nervous.

The denouement came in the seventh round, when the Tank hit Garcia in the liver, I reviewed the replays several times, the blow was not so strong and Garcia could continue the fight, but it’s hard to say why he couldn’t get up, maybe he felt that he had lost this fight.

In the end, Garcia disappointed, although I expected Tank to be the favorite, but I expected a more equal fight, but it turned out that Garcia made a lot of mistakes.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 23, 2023, 06:38:32 AM

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

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Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight,

He's ripe and we can see it to his record but Tank Davis is just so good for him. Davis exposed his weaknesses very well that's why he totally dominated him and got a huge victory on their fight.

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 05:01:40 AM

losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 23, 2023, 04:50:42 AM

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Not the way I thought this fight would go. I thought Garcia would be able to get the better of Tank but he didn’t seem to be able to use his advantages to his benefit. I wonder if they really did sign contracts to bet the entire purse or what is going to happen with that drama now.

That's purely talking to hype the fight but in the end, Ryan Garcia backed out of his statement that the winner will take all the purse money, that's what I have read in my social media feed about a month ago.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 23, 2023, 04:10:23 AM

Garcia lost with a same punch like he did against Luke Campbell.

Also, the same punch that Loma used to finish Linares, and if my memory serves me right, that's what also happened to Ryan's boss (Oscar) in the hands of Hopkins.

Yes, it is, the same punch, Ryan is too defensive on his chin that he forgot that he is fighting a small guy and his body is vulnerable to a liver punch, Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight, too anxious, prone to careless moves not good in defense, when he attacks he opens a room for a counter punch, that's because he has never faced a guy like Gervonta who is almost flawless in his moves and defense.

I wonder what's next for Ryan, losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 23, 2023, 12:51:03 AM

Not the way I thought this fight would go. I thought Garcia would be able to get the better of Tank but he didn’t seem to be able to use his advantages to his benefit. I wonder if they really did sign contracts to bet the entire purse or what is going to happen with that drama now.

That's purely talking to hype the fight but in the end, Ryan Garcia backed out of his statement that the winner will take all the purse money, that's what I have read in my social media feed about a month ago.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 23, 2023, 04:10:23 AM

Garcia lost with a same punch like he did against Luke Campbell.

Also, the same punch that Loma used to finish Linares, and if my memory serves me right, that's what also happened to Ryan's boss (Oscar) in the hands of Hopkins.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 23, 2023, 12:51:03 AM

Not the way I thought this fight would go. I thought Garcia would be able to get the better of Tank but he didn’t seem to be able to use his advantages to his benefit. I wonder if they really did sign contracts to bet the entire purse or what is going to happen with that drama now.

In terms of skill and ring generalship, Ryan has no match against Tank, it's a fine display of ring IQ he is very patient and not eager to get a hit, compared to Ryan who is very anxious to get even after the knockdown, the two fighters are in good terms and they are very cordial in their post-fight conference.
Ryan still has a lot to learn and this is his first crack at a World title and the first time he fought a top-level boxer, I don't think this deserves an immediate rematch, Tank should go for the winner of the Haney - Kambosos fight, for another legacy and money maker fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 23, 2023, 12:22:31 AM

The lack of experience on Ryan's part and Gervonta's 12 title fights experience is what made the difference, Ryan is too aggressive while Tank is showing controlled aggressiveness, you cannot beat someone you cannot hit, Ryan no doubt is a hard hitter but fighting someone like Gervonta who is very good in moving in the ring and making his opponents awkward is just too much for Ryan.
This fight settle it all I don't know about the rematch if there is one but for me, Gervonta is a better fighter he was leading in the fight and was very dominant this just shows who is the real top Dog in that division, I don't think Tank has a match in his division not even Haney.

Can't agree more! This fight took Garcia straight outta clinic as Davis totally dominated and schooled Ryan Garcia. Davis showed a lot of intelligence in this fight. During the first round, he didn't engaged much on Ryan's aggressiveness. Though round 2 was too early, but Davis saw that opportunity where Ryan repeated the same movements and aggressiveness since round 1, thus putting him down with a perfect left handed counter.
I hate to say this, but I don't want to see an immediate rematch as we are gonna probably see the same result. Let Ryan be matured first and maybe he'll have a chance in a rematch.

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As expected by many people Tank win against Garcia, this is the only one big fight for Garcia because he was always cherry pick his opponent and don't want to fight with a champion. Garcia is trying to dominate the fight and only focus to punch as much as he can, but he's not careful enough to defend himself. Tank is popular with his counter puncher, Tank can be defeated if Garcia is a technical boxer.

Garcia lost with a same punch like he did against Luke Campbell.

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Quote from: borovichok on April 23, 2023, 02:53:42 AM

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Like what many predicted Davis won via TKO via a liver punch he sneak that liver punch just when Ryan is holding in, I just knew its a matter of time before that counter punch, Ryan is too careless and very aggressive to hit, and land his left hook but unfortunately, Davis is good at this he has a good lateral movement and ring generalship to weathered Ryan's attack.
There may be a rematch but definitely Tank has better skill in the ring, he can get his punches in while Ryan is having a hard time landing his left hook.

While Davis was defending himself and waiting for the right moment to launch a strike that would knock Garcia out cold, Ryan steadily threw punches to Davis. Ryan had a busy day because a good battle calls for a good complement. He couldn't believe Davis had defeated him. When Ryan Garcia was hit by Gervonta Davis' monster punch in round 7 of the fight, Floyd Mayweather was impressed. It was entertaining to watch these youngsters compete for the championship since they were just one victory away.

Well, Ryan is too busy throwing punches on the comfortable range of Davis, as a result, Ryan Garcia got countered on the second round making him kiss the canvas. I also believe the rehydration clause has huge effect on Ryan's lower body resistance. As I heard on the post interview, the deal clause limits Ryan Garcia's rehydration that makes him not in full condition during the fight. But respect to Ryan Garcia on not using it as an excuse.

I have seen how Ryan Garcia is lacking that seems there are only 2 variation of his punches, jab and hook which makes his attack more predictable. Congratulations to those who bet on Davis.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 22, 2023, 11:56:13 PM

Like what many predicted Davis won via TKO via a liver punch he sneak that liver punch just when Ryan is holding in, I just knew its a matter of time before that counter punch, Ryan is too careless and very aggressive to hit, and land his left hook but unfortunately, Davis is good at this he has a good lateral movement and ring generalship to weathered Ryan's attack.
There may be a rematch but definitely Tank has better skill in the ring, he can get his punches in while Ryan is having a hard time landing his left hook.

While Davis was defending himself and waiting for the right moment to launch a strike that would knock Garcia out cold, Ryan steadily threw punches to Davis. Ryan had a busy day because a good battle calls for a good complement. He couldn't believe Davis had defeated him. When Ryan Garcia was hit by Gervonta Davis' monster punch in round 7 of the fight, Floyd Mayweather was impressed. It was entertaining to watch these youngsters compete for the championship since they were just one victory away.

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Not the way I thought this fight would go. I thought Garcia would be able to get the better of Tank but he didn’t seem to be able to use his advantages to his benefit. I wonder if they really did sign contracts to bet the entire purse or what is going to happen with that drama now.

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The lack of experience on Ryan's part and Gervonta's 12 title fights experience is what made the difference, Ryan is too aggressive while Tank is showing controlled aggressiveness, you cannot beat someone you cannot hit, Ryan no doubt is a hard hitter but fighting someone like Gervonta who is very good in moving in the ring and making his opponents awkward is just too much for Ryan.
This fight settle it all I don't know about the rematch if there is one but for me, Gervonta is a better fighter he was leading in the fight and was very dominant this just shows who is the real top Dog in that division, I don't think Tank has a match in his division not even Haney.

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