[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 8.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 23, 2023, 01:08:13 PM

Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Well, he just literally a rookie in-front of Gervonta Davis. I don't know what's with Ryan Garcia for being stubborn on learning that movement and defense techniques because I don't actually believe that he was not given the chance to learn it as it could've help him from the fights he had because boxing is not all about offense, it's also about defense. You know, even the stronger guys are doing everything they can to improve their defense as well as their chances in the fight, but here's Ryan Garcia who doesn't really care on doing it just because he got a good hook.

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It's exciting to watch fighters that have no loss as one will be guaranteed to get his first loss. Congratulations to Tank Davis. Despite the difference with their height, those solid punches has connected against Garcia.

That sudden fall on his knee on round 7, that was unexpected. Ryan was exhausted.

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There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

That's a legit knockout there because that's some sort of expected, I mean when you cut your weight you are just vulnerable to body shots. That round 2 knockdown temporarily zaps out the confidence of Garcia and he fought a defensive fight after that but got careless again in rounds 6 and 7 and got aggressive which what was Davis is waiting for, him to commit mistakes and the rest is history Grin

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For me, that's a status quo, I mean he stays in the ranking wherever he is because that fight is not fought in a fair field. They took the only advantage of Garcia which is his size and nothing is left for him to brag about but still a good fight for Tank though.

If he could beat the winner of Haney vs Loma then I could say that he will go up in the rankings as that could be a legit fight for him or if he could beat Shakur Stevenson that I could say that he is a dog in the lightweight division.

Those that are saying that it's just a way for him to quit, I don't think that it will be taken by his pride. I'm sure that he's even going to say that was a solid hit and he really just felt when he fell.

Gervonta is still undefeated. Well done.

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Congratulations to Gervonta "Tank" Davis on winning against Ryan Garcia, that was a thrilling performance. I thought Tank would knock out Garcia instead he gave him a brutal body shot in the seventh round. And also, props to Ryan Garcia for his all out and aggressive performance. There is no need to feel shame for losing once, but make it your aspiration to continue your journey in boxing. I hope whoever wins the match between Daven Haney and Vasyl Lomachenko will face Davis.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 24, 2023, 05:08:17 AM

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

That's a legit knockout there because that's some sort of expected, I mean when you cut your weight you are just vulnerable to body shots. That round 2 knockdown temporarily zaps out the confidence of Garcia and he fought a defensive fight after that but got careless again in rounds 6 and 7 and got aggressive which what was Davis is waiting for, him to commit mistakes and the rest is history Grin

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For me, that's a status quo, I mean he stays in the ranking wherever he is because that fight is not fought in a fair field. They took the only advantage of Garcia which is his size and nothing is left for him to brag about but still a good fight for Tank though.

If he could beat the winner of Haney vs Loma then I could say that he will go up in the rankings as that could be a legit fight for him or if he could beat Shakur Stevenson that I could say that he is a dog in the lightweight division.

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One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

Or maybe he should go up in weight at 140 lbs, I thought that he won't be looking drain at 135 lbs, but for me it seems to be case. But I do agree that there's nothing to be ashamed of losing to Tank, he acknowledge his lost already so maybe he will have to move on.

Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol. We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight. But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver. It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

I very much agree! King Ry's punches were not very impactful when he hit Tank Davis and also that body punch would not have a big effect if Ryan was allowed to rehydrate more properly. Why should Tank Davis care how much Ryan Garcia weighs on the day of the fight? His team scammed Ryan and Ryan's team should be responsible enough to tell him not to sign the contract. However, for much of the people who watched it, they do not know and they will not care.

Well, Ryan Garcia and his camp knew this from the very beginning and later admitted that he doesn't have the legs in this fight but he sign the contract so let it be. But this kind of rehydration clause is bullshit. Tank obviously has all the advantage in this fight and it's hard for Ryan to win specially if you are not comfortable with the weight that you are supposed to be during fight night. He could rehydrate to 150 lbs and most likely be a equal and good fight. Anyone knows what the official weight of Davis prior to the fight? So that we can see as well how much he rehydrated? Anyway, Ryan already admitted defeat and said that most likely he will go up in weight next fight.

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There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

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Indeed, it should be a good learning experience for Ryan Garcia and his camp.
Perhaps they should also learn to not accept a contract clause like another weigh-in before the fight. To avoid that, they might as well put Ryan Garcia in a higher weight class rather than forcing his body to be on the weight that they fought against Davis.
Being unable to rehydrate before the fight, is something that can affect the conditioning of their boxer. Davis' camp did a great job of including it in one of their demands but for Garcia, it is a big problem. Not gaining 10 pounds before the fight is not a joke. That means avoiding a lot of water and food just to stay at almost the same weight as their first weigh-in.
I like the fact though that Garcia didn't use that as a reason for his defeat. He owned it as his own mistake for not being a better boxer.

Garcia did not have enough experience for this fight, Tank turned out to be a rival of a slightly different level, and although Garcia had an advantage in anthropometry, he could not use it. He initiated the rapprochement with the opponent, but the length of the arms could allow to comfortably fight at a distance, and instead of exhausting the Tank throughout the battle, he approached. And he did it not very skillfully and missed strong blows.

The tank is a serious nakouter, it was necessary to remember this every second of the presence in the ring and in no case let him near. Perhaps overconfidence prevented Garcia from acting more calmly and prudently in the ring.

Yes you are right that mate Garcia has the advantages with the long arm and height but As we can saw the fight he didn't use that advantages that's why Tank Davis can still break his defense and I am glad to see Davis fighting skills and technique. That's why in the round 2 he got a open spot to knock down Garcia in early period of the game. And in the Round 7 super body shot by Davis that Garcia couldn't handle and that's why Davis will won the matchup between of them. Maybe Davis can ask a fight against the 8 division champ .

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Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight,

He's ripe and we can see it to his record but Tank Davis is just so good for him. Davis exposed his weaknesses very well that's why he totally dominated him and got a huge victory on their fight.

Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2023, 04:01:40 AM

losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

Despite of being a loser this time, I think Ryan Garcia should see it as more of a motivation that he should focus more on his craft by indulging himself into serious trainings that will improve his previous performance so that if ever he’ll be match again with other big names in the boxing industry, he will stay undefeated by that time. But I guess win or lose, the name Ryan Garcia still creates a huge impact in the boxing industry.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 23, 2023, 10:45:34 PM

Indeed, it should be a good learning experience for Ryan Garcia and his camp.
Perhaps they should also learn to not accept a contract clause like another weigh-in before the fight. To avoid that, they might as well put Ryan Garcia in a higher weight class rather than forcing his body to be on the weight that they fought against Davis.
Being unable to rehydrate before the fight, is something that can affect the conditioning of their boxer. Davis' camp did a great job of including it in one of their demands but for Garcia, it is a big problem. Not gaining 10 pounds before the fight is not a joke. That means avoiding a lot of water and food just to stay at almost the same weight as their first weigh-in.
I like the fact though that Garcia didn't use that as a reason for his defeat. He owned it as his own mistake for not being a better boxer.

Garcia did not have enough experience for this fight, Tank turned out to be a rival of a slightly different level, and although Garcia had an advantage in anthropometry, he could not use it. He initiated the rapprochement with the opponent, but the length of the arms could allow to comfortably fight at a distance, and instead of exhausting the Tank throughout the battle, he approached. And he did it not very skillfully and missed strong blows.

The tank is a serious nakouter, it was necessary to remember this every second of the presence in the ring and in no case let him near. Perhaps overconfidence prevented Garcia from acting more calmly and prudently in the ring.

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So congratulations to those with winning bets, especially Tank KO/TKO. What is next for KingRy? I feel that he might focus on his social media skills. He honestly mentioned some years ago that he is earning big amounts from it and is okay even if he was inactive in boxing. That is tempting indeed especially if you are already rich because boxing is not easy as you have to sacrifice a lot, especially during a training camp. This was probably the reason why Canelo and Eddie Reynoso kicked him out of their camp, both are gym rats. So I guess Ryan Garcia is done with boxing unless this defeat brings back the fire in him or if his pride won't allow him to get out of the sport after a KO loss.

As for Tank Davis. I wonder if he is now ready to fight for a title. He should stop cherry-picking his opponents because I would love to see him vie for a title for a chance to become a 2 division world champion. His mindset of being the face of boxing though might be an indication that he will continue to cherry-pick his next opponents.

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Quote from: avp2306 on April 23, 2023, 06:38:47 PM

Damn reasons for saying Ryan Garcia is in bad condition he's drained due to those things he do just to fight Tank. He know the consequences and for sure its their obligation to make his self well condition and also his coach to. Its just Tank is just so good for Garcia that's why we see he was been dominated totally and record up his first losses by a huge tko on his career. But Garcia is so young maybe this is a learning experience for Ryan Garcia to improve more.

Indeed, it should be a good learning experience for Ryan Garcia and his camp.
Perhaps they should also learn to not accept a contract clause like another weigh-in before the fight. To avoid that, they might as well put Ryan Garcia in a higher weight class rather than forcing his body to be on the weight that they fought against Davis.
Being unable to rehydrate before the fight, is something that can affect the conditioning of their boxer. Davis' camp did a great job of including it in one of their demands but for Garcia, it is a big problem. Not gaining 10 pounds before the fight is not a joke. That means avoiding a lot of water and food just to stay at almost the same weight as their first weigh-in.
I like the fact though that Garcia didn't use that as a reason for his defeat. He owned it as his own mistake for not being a better boxer.

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One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

Or maybe he should go up in weight at 140 lbs, I thought that he won't be looking drain at 135 lbs, but for me it seems to be case. But I do agree that there's nothing to be ashamed of losing to Tank, he acknowledge his lost already so maybe he will have to move on.

Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol. We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight. But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver. It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

I very much agree! King Ry's punches were not very impactful when he hit Tank Davis and also that body punch would not have a big effect if Ryan was allowed to rehydrate more properly. Why should Tank Davis care how much Ryan Garcia weighs on the day of the fight? His team scammed Ryan and Ryan's team should be responsible enough to tell him not to sign the contract. However, for much of the people who watched it, they do not know and they will not care.

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Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol. We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight. But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver. It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

He did not make it an excuse, because, in the first place he and his team agreed to it, he is just too anxious to fight Tank that he will agree to this kind of terms, I did not like the looked on Ryan's face when he was walking through the ring he is quite nervous not the same Ryan who walks with pride.

The liver shot is legit and with Tank's power any boxer will also go down, so I will not take out the credit on Tank's body shot, Ryan is having a hard time setting up that left hook because Tank knows that Ryan is heavily relying on that left hook and he will find a good opening once he unloads that left hook, exactly what happens in Ryan's first knockdown.

Damn reasons for saying Ryan Garcia is in bad condition he's drained due to those things he do just to fight Tank. He know the consequences and for sure its their obligation to make his self well condition and also his coach to. Its just Tank is just so good for Garcia that's why we see he was been dominated totally and record up his first losses by a huge tko on his career. But Garcia is so young maybe this is a learning experience for Ryan Garcia to improve more.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on April 23, 2023, 02:51:02 PM

Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol. We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight. But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver. It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

He did not make it an excuse, because, in the first place he and his team agreed to it, he is just too anxious to fight Tank that he will agree to this kind of terms, I did not like the looked on Ryan's face when he was walking through the ring he is quite nervous not the same Ryan who walks with pride.

The liver shot is legit and with Tank's power any boxer will also go down, so I will not take out the credit on Tank's body shot, Ryan is having a hard time setting up that left hook because Tank knows that Ryan is heavily relying on that left hook and he will find a good opening once he unloads that left hook, exactly what happens in Ryan's first knockdown.

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Quote from: crzy on April 23, 2023, 04:17:06 PM

I’m expecting a close match here but Ryan didn’t fight that well or Davis is just too strong for Ryan. Well, this is his first loss, many are disappointed but Ryan should not be worried about it, better to start preparing and address what went wrong for his next match. If there’s a rematch though Ryan might still lose again, better to look for other opponent. Losing with our bet is fine, at lease we saw at intense match especially those who are on side with Davis.

One mistake I see is when Ryan Garcia became aggressive, he started to close the gap in the hope to deliver his killer hook punch which Tank Davis is aware of. He has wasted all the advantages he had when he does that. Aside from that, the lack of punch variation is noticeable. He could have do an uppercut when Davis is defending the side of his face from Ryan's barrage of hooks. Ryan's over-aggressiveness in the second round caused him to be countered and got KD. I thought Ryan Garcia had improved when his trainer speaks how hard they trained Ryan on this fight but I guess it is all talk. lol.

It is a disappointment, yes, because I am expecting an almost balance fight yet, it was one-sided. Tank Davis makes Ryan Garcia look like an amateur in this fight Cheesy

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Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Quiet disappointed on bow Ryan fight the match, it looks like he didn’t train a lot for this.
Ryan can’t defend the punches from Davis, a lot of clean shots that affects Ryan’s performance. I want to see a rematch if possible as this is one of the intense match of undefeated boxer. Well, Ryan have to experience the feeling of losing the match, I don’t regret betting on him though I want to see Ryan rise again.

I’m expecting a close match here but Ryan didn’t fight that well or Davis is just too strong for Ryan. Well, this is his first loss, many are disappointed but Ryan should not be worried about it, better to start preparing and address what went wrong for his next match. If there’s a rematch though Ryan might still lose again, better to look for other opponent. Losing with our bet is fine, at lease we saw at intense match especially those who are on side with Davis.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 23, 2023, 01:08:13 PM

Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Quiet disappointed on bow Ryan fight the match, it looks like he didn’t train a lot for this.
Ryan can’t defend the punches from Davis, a lot of clean shots that affects Ryan’s performance. I want to see a rematch if possible as this is one of the intense match of undefeated boxer. Well, Ryan have to experience the feeling of losing the match, I don’t regret betting on him though I want to see Ryan rise again.

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One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

Or maybe he should go up in weight at 140 lbs, I thought that he won't be looking drain at 135 lbs, but for me it seems to be case. But I do agree that there's nothing to be ashamed of losing to Tank, he acknowledge his lost already so maybe he will have to move on.

Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol. We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight. But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver. It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 23, 2023, 01:08:13 PM

Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Ryan shot like I'd just hit fast and maybe hit, in general I think it was all about his nervousness. I'd say cowardly, but he wasn't, but he looked extremely agitated. Not even half the comfort in the Tank. Tank Davis rocked hard in his first knockdown, yet he proved resilient as Ryan Garcia was able to stand up. Ryan Garcia couldn't even adjust his breathing to make these hard hits and he lost the match and couldn't even stand up. The smart game always wins, just strength is not enough.

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Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted. He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Ryan is tall and can hit hard but that's about all he has going for him. He is not on the same level as the top lightweights. As long as he can remain popular on social media then he will still continue being an attractive opponent but I don't see him becoming a champion unless he moves to 140 and beats the weakest champion.

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