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legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Then process only the newer part. It is indeed tricky, just yesterday 46 posts from the same member where deleted from the same topic. But if you make sure you find at least several different lines that match in the same order, you can be pretty sure you found an "anchor" to use to decide which parts are new.

I know, it's so easy to add tasks to someone else's todo list!

Yes, I'm trying something like that - looking for "nuke" records (it's extremely unlikely that the same user would be nuked multiple times within a week) and thread removals (also unlikely if not outright impossible for the same thread to be deleted multiple times) and taking a couple of adjacent records.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
modlog records are not uniquely identified (no record ID or even a timestamp) so when there are e.g. multiple posts form the same user deleted in the same thread it's a bit tricky to determine whether it's a new entry or not.
That makes sense as a cause. It reminds me of my first attempt to merge theymos' weekly Merit data dump with the older data, but I can't find back what I did exactly.

So basically you have this:
Code:
4
3
2
2
3
1
And the next time you scrape modlog you get this:

Code:
3
5
4
4
3
2
2

You need to find the overlap:
Code:
4
3
2
2

Then process only the newer part. It is indeed tricky, just yesterday 46 posts from the same member where deleted from the same topic. But if you make sure you find at least several different lines that match in the same order, you can be pretty sure you found an "anchor" to use to decide which parts are new.

I know, it's so easy to add tasks to someone else's todo list!
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Bug: I've noticed before that BPIP's deleted post count is off, and stumbled upon a clear example now. User ebi_javanmard has 18 deleted posts on modlog (which I think is from the past week), but BPIP shows only 4 posts deleted by moderators.

modlog records are not uniquely identified (no record ID or even a timestamp) so when there are e.g. multiple posts form the same user deleted in the same thread it's a bit tricky to determine whether it's a new entry or not. I believe that's where the deleted posts get undercounted.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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Posts that have been deleted by a user (such as yourself in your self-moderated threads) haven't been counted for a while now.
Those actions don't show in modlog.

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When Lauda went on a deletion spree a while ago, those deleted posts were counted.
How would BPIP even know those posts were deleted?

No idea - my questions to the BPIP get mostly toxic responses at the best of times, so perhaps you might have better luck gleaning information from them.  All I can do is continue to call things as I see them.

Warts and all.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Posts that have been deleted by a user (such as yourself in your self-moderated threads) haven't been counted for a while now.
Those actions don't show in modlog.

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When Lauda went on a deletion spree a while ago, those deleted posts were counted.
How would BPIP even know those posts were deleted?
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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Bug: I've noticed before that BPIP's deleted post count is off, and stumbled upon a clear example now. User ebi_javanmard has 18 deleted posts on modlog (which I think is from the past week), but BPIP shows only 4 posts deleted by moderators.

Posts that have been deleted by a user (such as yourself in your self-moderated threads) haven't been counted for a while now.

When Lauda went on a deletion spree a while ago, those deleted posts were counted.  I just took it that there had been a change of opinion as to what did and did not count as relevant for post counts.




Similarly, threads that are deleted show as the post having been deleted, but also don't count towards the BPIP tally of deleted posts (as evidenced by what has been occurring recently).
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
User ebi_javanmard has 18 deleted posts on modlog (which I think is from the past week), but BPIP shows only 4 posts deleted by moderators.
I just refreshed the profile and now it shows 12 deleted posts. 6 deleted posts are still missing.


BPIP
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Bug: I've noticed before that BPIP's deleted post count is off, and stumbled upon a clear example now. User ebi_javanmard has 18 deleted posts on modlog (which I think is from the past week), but BPIP shows only 4 posts deleted by moderators.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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It would be cool to compare the two BPIP and ninjastic.space at least that would give a better look on who is active and not. I am guessing both will be inflated because of account farmers.

This forum is powered by the SMF platform and has some stats available to anyone using this Forum (admittedly some of the information has been disabled)

If you head over to the stats page [ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats ] you should then be able to make comparisons between the three sites mentioned.

Regards,
sr. member
Activity: 363
Merit: 323
Infographics save lives
Do you guys track / have a link for active profiles? I would like to look at it on a 6 months/ yearly basis and see how many members we are losing.

That's really a subjective question given the number of farmed accounts that are created, cultivated put on ice or revived either for sale, or, to boost the UID's post count.

You'd be better off looking at the number of daily/weekly/etc posts over at https://ninjastic.space/ that complements the work being done by the BPIP team.
It would be cool to compare the two BPIP and ninjastic.space at least that would give a better look on who is active and not. I am guessing both will be inflated because of account farmers.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
💲🏎️💨🚓
Do you guys track / have a link for active profiles? I would like to look at it on a 6 months/ yearly basis and see how many members we are losing.

That's really a subjective question given the number of farmed accounts that are created, cultivated put on ice or revived either for sale, or, to boost the UID's post count.

You'd be better off looking at the number of daily/weekly/etc posts over at https://ninjastic.space/ that complements the work being done by the BPIP team.
sr. member
Activity: 363
Merit: 323
Infographics save lives
Do you guys track / have a link for active profiles? I would like to look at it on a 6 months/ yearly basis and see how many members we are losing.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I just realized to be able to make somebody your merit fan, you need to receive at least 2 merits.
Or it just lists the top 10?
It's the top 10 Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 1764
Merit: 373
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Good day,

I just realized to be able to make somebody your merit fan, you need to receive at least 2 merits.
Or it just lists the top 10?


Also, Copyright is set 2016-2020, so me taking a screenshot today does not violate it correct?
 Grin



humor got me a ninja merit and an ibmerit! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
That might be true for those who are fortunate to have a background in that field, but for the rest of us, Firefox for Android just will not let you install the BPIP on their browser app.

Understanding code doesn't get you on a recommended list at Firefox. Understanding code would allow someone to verify the safety of the extension's source and not lose sleep over a 'warning' and/or 'suggestion' not to use the extension.. but because the previous post labelled this a warning/suggestion, I'd assume it should still offer a way to allow the extension to install.

If it is not letting you install the extension at all, then coding experience isn't going to really help this. The only way to install it will be if Firefox adds BPIP to their list... or use another browser.

I'd be surprised if the Tor browser app isn't letting the extension install at all (although may still give a warning), as I had thought they used an older base version of firefox, but I haven't tested the Tor *app* directly myself on an android device (and I don't currently have an android device to test!..).

Anyhow, any further discussion relating directly to the extension should probably be moved over to the BPIP extension thread! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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That might be true for those who are fortunate to have a background in that field, but for the rest of us, Firefox for Android just will not let you install the BPIP on their browser app.

The PC version of Firefox will, the app no.

Same goes for the Tor browser PC yes, app no.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
I had tried to install BPIP for firebox on my Android phone but it gave me a warning and suggested me not to install this.

This is likely related to the warning that suchmoon had posted about on the BPIP extension thread, which it seems like firefox is doing for all extensions that are not officially listed on their "recommended" plugins list. Not sure if it is a different warning you are receiving or not, but I'm sure it is likely following the same idea of not being on an official list deemed OK by Firefox.

Good news is, for anyone tech-savvy, extensions are open-source.. so anyone can verify the safety of the code independently, or potentially hire someone to screen it for you.. if you are overly worried about it.
legendary
Activity: 2240
Merit: 3150
₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(
I had tried to install BPIP for firebox on my Android phone but it gave me a warning and suggested me not to install this.
I use it on a separate browser, like Firefox Night. No issues till now.
full member
Activity: 330
Merit: 102
I had tried to install BPIP for firebox on my Android phone but it gave me a warning and suggested me not to install this.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
At the risk of being slightly off-topic: Does BPIP also get visited by agressive scraping bots?

Not sure.. I'm sure we have bots scraping pages, but I'm not sure how many or how aggressive they may be. I'm guessing our hosting provider is doing some level of filtering on their end, but again I'm not sure how involved it is or whether suchmoon does any monitoring of these types of things on his end, GUI access may have a few more options to monitor this type of thing more effectively. I could probably try digging through long text-based log files and trying to analyze them, but who has time for that??  Smiley
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