Topic: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" - page 29. (Read 119653 times)

Unless of course they are futures contracts and don't actually require the  coins to move.  How about you ask mtgox to show all of their btc transfers in the block chain... oh wait, you can't because some of it is internal/on paper.

What about the claim of "there is no evidence that your business has the required income to pay its incredible interest bill without eroding principle balances"?

Surely it's fairly easy in a currency in which all transactions are on public record in the blockchain to show that you're doing a substantial amount of business?

I mean, given the weekly interest bill, you'd expect BTCST to be doing at least 150k BTC per week in trades even if they were dealing in something with a very high profit margin. It shouldn't be difficult to show.

Not when the people that need to be convinced don't really want to be convinced. 

In addition, sometimes the best way to prove you aren't a scam is to keep doing business and paying everyone as agreed.

Against what proof?
As it stands there is nothing to defend against but baseless claims that don't need any defending against, perhaps I missed some proof amongst the 'ponzi ponzi ponzi' chants, because I've seen none backing up your accusations, so then, with such a lack of proof (And indeed, victims) i think "people" have shown they are not scammers.

It's pretty hilarious watching the Pirate-folk having their little meltdown and pulling out random poker statistics that have nothing to do with anything.

It will be especially funny seeing which ones will disappear after Pirate defaults. Greed is one helluva drug!

Just saying, you should probably link to a transaction in the blockchain for that original 10k BTC deposit, or unlock the thread for a bit.


I wasn't aware Victor Escudero had any pirate exposure? You're referring to his 1.5% deposits right?

Wouldn't it just be easier for people to show they're not scammers?

No, its about experts making wild and odd accusations

Its a topic about a guy claiming a bunch of other people are scammers.  Its only fair to discuss the person doing the finger pointing.

Perhaps a mod can split the topic off into its own thread ? Hit the "report to moderator" button.

I didn't realise this topic was about poker...

Dont you see the MASSIVE irony in that statement of yours? Those earnings can be made more consistently by a McDonalds manager, what makes you an expert ? Bahahaha.

Perhaps you should go read up on the word, accusation. These are all facts that I post, made available by forums and by yourself in your signature of all places. Are you calling those lousy yearly tournament earnings all lies and not factual ? It is well known that you are a huge losing cash game player and the other sharkscope overall SNG stats shows that you are a huge SNG losing player over the last years aswell.

Where do you make money to survive, is scamming with poker material really that lucrative ?

I will keep pointing out the obvious, you are nothing but a self-bloated self-proclaimed wannabe expert. How is that Winning slots book coming along ?

seriously, willing to debate you endlessly on a topic I am an expert in and you are making wild and odd accusations.  Wrong thread though.  This 1 is about massive Ponzi schemes

Micon latching onto sealswithclubs remoinds me of bruce wagner and mybitcoin.

Now hes claiming hes an "owner" of seals.

 

Please add the US Dollar to the #1 spot, as it is by FAR the largest ponzi scheme on planet earth. The only reason it is dragging out so long is that the perps are epic criminals with vast resources, plus they force the entire planet to use the USD.

Cute that you added your sitepro stats, from 2007 to 2012 you earned the following per year before deducting any backing funds, this comes in most places far less than any minimum wage and you wonder why people in the poker community laugh at you calling yourself a pro.

2012   $ 32,832   $ 32,832 -> After backer fees this may aswell read $0.
2011   $ 65,596   $ 65,596 -> You cant afford slots with this yearly income so who did you scam to roll you for slot mastery ?
2010   $ 34,066   $ 34,066 -> After backer fees this is likely closer to $0 aswell, true champ.
2009   $ 77,287   $ 77,287 -> Great year, still far below any average educated job, must have gone on a diet this year.
2008   $ 30,419   $ 30,419 -> Not sure how you could afford your own home with this yearly income before taxes.
2007   $ 6,021   $ 6,021 -> deduct backer fees, I bet you ate sand this whole year, Im sure you dont want to be back in 2007.

Like I said before you may have been a decent player up till 2006 but I would guess mostly a lucky donk when competition was as easy as pie but since then it clearly shows you are anything but a surviving poker player.

If I cared more I would have traced down to the $0 on your tournament winnings. No need for me to even look at your sng winnings, thats all in the minus in recent years.

By "investigate" you mean what exactly?

you say words like investigate, but never like... show up with any results

Seriously, if you have anything else other than 1) "you don't know therefore ponzi" or 2) "omg 7% therefore ponzi" it would be good if it wasn't buried under those two piles of crap

many BTC investment vehicles are scams on this board.  Yes, it is shocking how many.

I will investigate the Mining bonds as well.  I agree there is a good possibility of Ponzi in mining bonds, but as of now haven't investigated. 

This stuff never gets old