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sr. member
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June 20, 2015, 12:23:11 PM
Well, he could have sent the bitcoins directly, if he absolutely wanted to. The great thing about bitcoin is there is no gate/wall to access, so you don't need to make use of services to transfer funds.
legendary
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June 16, 2015, 11:02:34 AM

Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.


I never said you arent entitled to your views. Hence we are having a discussion.

What I find funny is the way some poeple will get their knickers in a bunch over this guy, yet will not for one minute discuss the REAL issue.

Who are ISIS? Where did they come from? Who backed them?

If you look into this, I guarantee you wont be so angry at this Bryce guy ( and, YES, I agree, what he did was wrong)

ISIS is essentially Al-Qaeda Iraq. They are fighting a sectarian war against the US approved, but Shia majority government in Iraq. They are Sunni extremists, in the Wahhabist tradition of Saudi Arabia, and since the Syrian Civil War, have been openly backed by Saudi Arabia. The US are also keen to overthrow Assad, so US money has gone to the "rebels". However the rebels have largely been taken over by ISIS in the last 2 years, so all US and Saudi "aid" has been gracefully accepted by ISIS!

In essense, the US is supporting a terror organisation who are fighting against them in Iraq. Go Figure.  Remember the joy when the Marines took Fallujah in 2004?  Bet you didnt see as much fanfare when those bastard ISIS thugs took it back, using US supplied weapons and Hummers?

So you still pissed at this guy and his buck? You should get down to the Saudi Embassy and ask why do they support sectarian extremists in Syria and Iraq. And then ask your congressman why the US is still alligning itself with Saudi's who are openly hostile to anyone who is not a strict fundamentalist Sunni. ( that includes Shia, Alawites, Christians, Jews, etc.



Yeah, this is a very informative post. I don't know that much about the whole Iraq / Iran / U.S. manipulation thing. I probably should read up on it more to be a good world citizen (bla bla) but, like most Americans, I really don't care that much about their struggles beyond the belief that we shouldn't be messing in their internal affairs. If they nuclear carpet bombed each other in a triangle from Yemen to Pakistan to Turkey I doubt most Americans that didn't emigrate from that region would lose any sleep.
legendary
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June 16, 2015, 01:39:11 AM

Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.


I never said you arent entitled to your views. Hence we are having a discussion.

What I find funny is the way some poeple will get their knickers in a bunch over this guy, yet will not for one minute discuss the REAL issue.

Who are ISIS? Where did they come from? Who backed them?

If you look into this, I guarantee you wont be so angry at this Bryce guy ( and, YES, I agree, what he did was wrong)

ISIS is essentially Al-Qaeda Iraq. They are fighting a sectarian war against the US approved, but Shia majority government in Iraq. They are Sunni extremists, in the Wahhabist tradition of Saudi Arabia, and since the Syrian Civil War, have been openly backed by Saudi Arabia. The US are also keen to overthrow Assad, so US money has gone to the "rebels". However the rebels have largely been taken over by ISIS in the last 2 years, so all US and Saudi "aid" has been gracefully accepted by ISIS!

In essense, the US is supporting a terror organisation who are fighting against them in Iraq. Go Figure.  Remember the joy when the Marines took Fallujah in 2004?  Bet you didnt see as much fanfare when those bastard ISIS thugs took it back, using US supplied weapons and Hummers?

So you still pissed at this guy and his buck? You should get down to the Saudi Embassy and ask why do they support sectarian extremists in Syria and Iraq. And then ask your congressman why the US is still alligning itself with Saudi's who are openly hostile to anyone who is not a strict fundamentalist Sunni. ( that includes Shia, Alawites, Christians, Jews, etc.



Awesome Post!

Cue crickets!!
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March 25, 2015, 07:31:45 AM

Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.


I never said you arent entitled to your views. Hence we are having a discussion.

What I find funny is the way some poeple will get their knickers in a bunch over this guy, yet will not for one minute discuss the REAL issue.

Who are ISIS? Where did they come from? Who backed them?

If you look into this, I guarantee you wont be so angry at this Bryce guy ( and, YES, I agree, what he did was wrong)

ISIS is essentially Al-Qaeda Iraq. They are fighting a sectarian war against the US approved, but Shia majority government in Iraq. They are Sunni extremists, in the Wahhabist tradition of Saudi Arabia, and since the Syrian Civil War, have been openly backed by Saudi Arabia. The US are also keen to overthrow Assad, so US money has gone to the "rebels". However the rebels have largely been taken over by ISIS in the last 2 years, so all US and Saudi "aid" has been gracefully accepted by ISIS!

In essense, the US is supporting a terror organisation who are fighting against them in Iraq. Go Figure.  Remember the joy when the Marines took Fallujah in 2004?  Bet you didnt see as much fanfare when those bastard ISIS thugs took it back, using US supplied weapons and Hummers?

So you still pissed at this guy and his buck? You should get down to the Saudi Embassy and ask why do they support sectarian extremists in Syria and Iraq. And then ask your congressman why the US is still alligning itself with Saudi's who are openly hostile to anyone who is not a strict fundamentalist Sunni. ( that includes Shia, Alawites, Christians, Jews, etc.

jr. member
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March 22, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
I think he shouldn't be able to and it is good that it was blocked!  It is a fast track to getting a service shut down, funding terrorism!
I'm not a huge fan of the whole tipping idea as a whole, but this kind of thing just adds to the negative press around bitcoin.

Ironically the biggest funder of terrorism on the planet is the US government.


It is not a question of politically not correct , it is a question of "ethic". Will you give or donate 1 cent to a terrorist/killer? I hope you will reply : No, I will not donate 1 cent do any killer.

So then you don't pay taxes to fund the military?
sr. member
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March 22, 2015, 02:00:50 PM
Well he just donated 1$, and probably wanted to just test it.
Can you make a bomb from 1$?
Terror institutions are best way for marketing.
hero member
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March 21, 2015, 04:19:11 PM

Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.

Things would be nice and neat if we could just boil this down to football game, eh? 2 sides. Go Blues!  Go Reds!!   Grin

Alas, its rarely that simple. I dont think anyone is contesting that what this guy did was stupid. But should he be vilified to the degree that is being advocated in this thread? Of course not. If you want to be angry with something, then get angry at real issues. Guy did something stupid. It has zero impact on global terrorism. At least anyone else trying to setup ISIL/ISIS faucets will find it more difficult now. Lets be thankful for that.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour.


Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour. - I've re-posted this because I think its completely true. I believe in some government. That doesn't mean I believe and agree with everything they do. In fact, I actually believe that they get lots of things wrong an can deal with many issues in other ways, however, without them or some form of power, all will be lost. 




It is not a question of politically not correct , it is a question of "ethic". Will you give or donate 1 cent to a terrorist/killer? I hope you will reply : No, I will not donate 1 cent do any killer. The future is not the democracy, also it has failed and we are moving to another form of government.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 04:14:10 PM

Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.

Things would be nice and neat if we could just boil this down to football game, eh? 2 sides. Go Blues!  Go Reds!!   Grin

Alas, its rarely that simple. I dont think anyone is contesting that what this guy did was stupid. But should he be vilified to the degree that is being advocated in this thread? Of course not. If you want to be angry with something, then get angry at real issues. Guy did something stupid. It has zero impact on global terrorism. At least anyone else trying to setup ISIL/ISIS faucets will find it more difficult now. Lets be thankful for that.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour.


Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour. - I've re-posted this because I think its completely true. I believe in some government. That doesn't mean I believe and agree with everything they do. In fact, I actually believe that they get lots of things wrong an can deal with many issues in other ways, however, without them or some form of power, all will be lost. 


hero member
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March 20, 2015, 08:16:53 AM

Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.

Things would be nice and neat if we could just boil this down to football game, eh? 2 sides. Go Blues!  Go Reds!!   Grin

Alas, its rarely that simple. I dont think anyone is contesting that what this guy did was stupid. But should he be vilified to the degree that is being advocated in this thread? Of course not. If you want to be angry with something, then get angry at real issues. Guy did something stupid. It has zero impact on global terrorism. At least anyone else trying to setup ISIL/ISIS faucets will find it more difficult now. Lets be thankful for that.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour.
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March 13, 2015, 07:18:51 AM
As an acquaintance of Bryce, I felt very uneasy about this. I haven't spoken to him since the incident. Attempting to fund terrorism to prove a point is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It just seems like blatant attention whoring to me
newbie
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March 13, 2015, 07:14:04 AM
Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/



So basically he's trying to shift the blame from himself to Twitter.
He should just man up, admit he was wrong and stop acting like a child in my opinion.
that's like blaming the gun for killing someone. When you pulled the trigger.

Good analogy Smiley - I like it.
Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.

Agreed, I don't understand why someone would try to do this and expect zero repercussions or whiplash.
legendary
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March 13, 2015, 05:26:38 AM
Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/



So basically he's trying to shift the blame from himself to Twitter.
He should just man up, admit he was wrong and stop acting like a child in my opinion.
that's like blaming the gun for killing someone. When you pulled the trigger.

Good analogy Smiley - I like it.
Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.
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March 13, 2015, 05:05:19 AM
#99
Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/



So basically he's trying to shift the blame from himself to Twitter.
He should just man up, admit he was wrong and stop acting like a child in my opinion.
that's like blaming the gun for killing someone. When you pulled the trigger.
legendary
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March 13, 2015, 03:07:04 AM
#98
Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/



So basically he's trying to shift the blame from himself to Twitter.
He should just man up, admit he was wrong and stop acting like a child in my opinion.
hero member
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March 12, 2015, 10:09:32 PM
#97
Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/

legendary
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March 12, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
#96
As interesting as this argument is and what your opinions are on policy can we please try and keep this on topic and not go on too much of a tangent?  Wink

Isnt the tl;dr of this topic "Its bad to give money to terrorists"?
And its been pointed out that the US government has given significantly more (Enough to give every US citizen a decent standard of healthcare) to terrorists than this guy did, but many people dont seem to have a problem with that. Surely that makes policy a real important issue...


You are absolutely right. It's laughable that the U.S. government can call any group a terrorist considering the information that is available about the horrible things they have been doing since WWII. The CIA has been committing terrorist crimes globally since before most other terrorist groups were in diapers.

Read to learn more: http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804
legendary
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March 12, 2015, 05:52:03 AM
#95
As interesting as this argument is and what your opinions are on policy can we please try and keep this on topic and not go on too much of a tangent?  Wink

Isnt the tl;dr of this topic "Its bad to give money to terrorists"?
And its been pointed out that the US government has given significantly more (Enough to give every US citizen a decent standard of healthcare) to terrorists than this guy did, but many people dont seem to have a problem with that. Surely that makes policy a real important issue...


That may be true yet it is disputed. Regardless of that, it has also been noted that some rule or policy is needed. I think it's better to have one governing organisation (who may or may not have directly or indirectly contributed to terrorism) then having a free for all riot where people self-govern over society. In the latter scenario I'm fairly confident in saying both terrorism and crime will be much more prominent and more of an issue.
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March 12, 2015, 05:33:52 AM
#94
As interesting as this argument is and what your opinions are on policy can we please try and keep this on topic and not go on too much of a tangent?  Wink

Isnt the tl;dr of this topic "Its bad to give money to terrorists"?
And its been pointed out that the US government has given significantly more (Enough to give every US citizen a decent standard of healthcare) to terrorists than this guy did, but many people dont seem to have a problem with that. Surely that makes policy a real important issue...
newbie
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March 12, 2015, 12:40:46 AM
#93
http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-user-banned-isis/

Not sure what to make of this.
I understand the point he was making (see coin desk article) but think that what he did or attempted to do does not justify it.
BTC has a mixed picture in the outside world. This only portrays it worse not to mention the effect that supporting terrorists can have!

What do you think?

I think it was not attempted, Bryce did gave something for that ISIS man.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 06:39:17 PM
#92
As interesting as this argument is and what your opinions are on policy can we please try and keep this on topic and not go on too much of a tangent?  Wink
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