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Topic: BTC-e hacked ?? - page 106. (Read 199719 times)

legendary
Activity: 1552
Merit: 1047
July 28, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
BS, the US don't legally classify Bitcoin as money, and that's what matters, unless they go though the motions of doing that first they can only pursue transactions that involve fiat, and other legal tender, under money laundering laws.

From E-Gold case:

"However, in its actions from 2006-2008, the U.S. Treasury Department in conjunction with the United States Department of Justice stretched the definition of money transmitter in the USA Patriot Act to include any system that allows transfer of any kind of value from one person to another, not merely national currency or cash."

And that was 10 years ago so imagine what they consider under definition of money transmitter today. Maybe even wearing clothes would fall under that stretched definition or money transmitting Cheesy


The charges are not under the USA Patriot Act, they are under statutes ranging from 1956 to 1960 if you read the U.S. Attorney’s Office press release. There is no mention of charges under the Patriot Act whatsoever.

The US government can stretch the definition of whatever they like in their country, and the sheeple will do little. Doesn't mean other countries will abide.



18 U.S. Code § 1956
(a)(1) Whoever, knowing that the property involved in a financial transaction represents the proceeds of some form of unlawful activity, conducts or attempts to conduct such a financial transaction which in fact involves the proceeds of specified unlawful activity

(4) the term “financial transaction” means (A) a transaction which in any way or degree affects interstate or foreign commerce (i) involving the movement of funds by wire or other means or (ii) involving one or more monetary instruments, or (iii) involving the transfer of title to any real property, vehicle, vessel, or aircraft, or (B) a transaction involving the use of a financial institution which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce in any way or degree;


Definition of fund from dictionary
1a :  a sum of money or other resources

Definition of money from dictionary
something generally accepted as a medium of exchange, a measure of value,

They might not have needed the Patriot Act in this case. But they can, and will, when necessary.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
July 28, 2017, 06:09:07 AM
Any updates about Alex's extradition?
member
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In the fray since 2013.
July 28, 2017, 05:48:13 AM
any news people?

BTW not communicating well is a BTC staple.  Grin

member
Activity: 86
Merit: 10
July 28, 2017, 05:44:35 AM
I like the btc-e crew, they seem more practical than a lot of other CEO types that get a god complex and start thinking they are better than the rest of us

While I'm hoping they are "shitting themselves with work" to get the server up and running again, what I really don't like is the lack of communication. The users are going crazy with worry, and they are like "we told them a few days ago we'd get the server up, that's enough". If they really are working on it, they should say so to calm people down.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
July 28, 2017, 05:34:58 AM
they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk

This was quite an erroneous translation.

The mod said

3 дня yпepeтьcя и ycpaтьcя

which having NOT been distilled from meaty russian idiomatics has the meaning of

3 days at least if we push so hard that we shit ourselves.

There no need for admin to shit himself - no-one wants that. What with the August 1 nonsense I'm happy to see Btc-e back up sometime first week of August.

I like the btc-e crew, they seem more practical than a lot of other CEO types that get a god complex and start thinking they are better than the rest of us
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
July 28, 2017, 04:30:11 AM
they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk

This was quite an erroneous translation.

The mod said

3 дня yпepeтьcя и ycpaтьcя

which having NOT been distilled from meaty russian idiomatics has the meaning of

3 days at least if we push so hard that we shit ourselves.

haha thats one funny mod
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
July 28, 2017, 02:31:51 AM
they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk

This was quite an erroneous translation.

The mod said

3 дня yпepeтьcя и ycpaтьcя

which having NOT been distilled from meaty russian idiomatics has the meaning of

3 days at least if we push so hard that we shit ourselves.
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
July 28, 2017, 12:45:25 AM
My funds are also stuck or burned with btc-e .
They said they are maintaining but, now their page shows Error 525, CloudFlare error.
Not sure what's going on.

It just alternates between the messages every now and then when you refresh.
Might be doing a round robin between a couple of backend server IPs, only one of which has the message.



sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 262
July 28, 2017, 12:37:44 AM
My funds are also stuck or burned with btc-e .
They said they are maintaining but, now their page shows Error 525, CloudFlare error.
Not sure what's going on.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 250
July 28, 2017, 12:19:25 AM
Not exactly comforting words coming from people holding billions of dollars owed to 10,000's of people.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
July 28, 2017, 12:17:38 AM
they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 250
July 28, 2017, 12:05:38 AM
Are the arrest of Alexander, the upcoming highly anticipated fork and the shutting down of btc-e.com 3 coinciding events? It's hard to distinguish what all the cause and effects are.

Is it a coincidence that the extended "downtime" of btc-e will fall on August 1st? Are they possibly mitigating against everyone pouring out of the exchange and into offline wallets in preparation for the event?

And in relation to people saying things such as "why would they bother Tweeting and keeping in contact with customers if they plan on making a run for it", wouldn't it make sense to keep everyone calm for as long as possible to avoid being hunted down whilst preparing for an exit?

I sincerely hope you're right and that they are indeed planning on returning. It just boggles the mind as to why their contact is so vague and few and far between. A P.R intern with severe a motivation deficit could do a better job than they are currently. I suppose they're either going with a "less is more" strategy, or it is indeed something far more sinister. Let's hope not.
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
July 27, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
Whats more of a crime is the reach of the US.  The Rothchilds are finally kicking into stage 2!  BTC wipeout , slow strangulation, makes sense BTC biggest threat they have ever seen.  Revolutions in the past kicked off with far less wealth control and imbalance than now.  Amazing to see the true power and reach these chosen few have.  back to my day job and my debt.

Nah, the Rothchilds would print their own crypto for free and try to make everyone use it, like XRP or some of these ICO tokens.

If they didn't want crypto, they would pressure governments to ban it, though, the technique would be to first have a huge media campaign to make it look like only criminals need crypto, mentioning Russian criminals often in the campaign would help a lot.










newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
Man, I got really pissed at btc-e for banning me from the trollbox a few days ago so I withdrew all my money from there..

So yeah, a big thank you to the btc-e admin team.

By the way, is there any link between btc-e and BTCex? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BTCex

Karpeles seemed to have trouble with them back in 2011 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mtgox-vs-mysterious-russia-6931

Well i got burned a bit. Wish they had banned me from that chat  Grin
Ps. You still owe me a copy of your book  Wink


obligatory "ouch"

seriously though, can't mod just throw up the troll box with a btc address under it? Ill send .5 btc to chat with yall Cheesy
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
July 27, 2017, 09:19:43 PM
Whats more of a crime is the reach of the US.  The Rothchilds are finally kicking into stage 2!  BTC wipeout , slow strangulation, makes sense BTC biggest threat they have ever seen.  Revolutions in the past kicked off with far less wealth control and imbalance than now.  Amazing to see the true power and reach these chosen few have.  back to my day job and my debt.
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
July 27, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
BS, the US don't legally classify Bitcoin as money, and that's what matters, unless they go though the motions of doing that first they can only pursue transactions that involve fiat, and other legal tender, under money laundering laws.

From E-Gold case:

"However, in its actions from 2006-2008, the U.S. Treasury Department in conjunction with the United States Department of Justice stretched the definition of money transmitter in the USA Patriot Act to include any system that allows transfer of any kind of value from one person to another, not merely national currency or cash."

And that was 10 years ago so imagine what they consider under definition of money transmitter today. Maybe even wearing clothes would fall under that stretched definition or money transmitting Cheesy


The charges are not under the USA Patriot Act, they are under statutes ranging from 1956 to 1960 if you read the U.S. Attorney’s Office press release. There is no mention of charges under the Patriot Act whatsoever.

The US government can stretch the definition of whatever they like in their country, and the sheeple will do little. Doesn't mean other countries will abide.


newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 08:58:22 PM
O the whole thing including transactions etc ?

I thought it was just username list, but if whole site database was leaked then guess they got their filthy hands on it.

must have been able to see transactions on it to tie accounts with bankwires


lots of emails and ip addresses, no transactions in the public leaks, but who knows what was really obtained though
full member
Activity: 241
Merit: 100
July 27, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
I don't think he has got any connection to BTC-e. Simultaneity two events made this rumor bold. Seems mtGOX's hacker is found finally but he has not any relation with BTE-e

Quote
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/alleged-btc-e-admin-arrested-for-laundering-4-billion-in-bitcoin/


Although details on the man’s alleged operation are still scarce, a Greek police official pointed out that the man was accused of running a platform that converted proceeds of online ransoms, identity theft, tax violations, and more into bitcoin.

newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
O the whole thing including transactions etc ?

I thought it was just username list, but if whole site database was leaked then guess they got their filthy hands on it.

must have been able to see transactions on it to tie accounts with bankwires
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 08:44:33 PM
Reading through the PDF on the GOV Website, which was originally written 01/17/2017

This details which Specific BTC-e accounts Alex allegedly used and of which some had admin statuses etc. How do they have this kind of information without the server and backend of BTC-e?

The laundering charges are from 2012 and the rest they are clutching at straws...The site must be used mainly by criminals because some of the Users have Hack in their usernames?

the btce database was hacked ages ago
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