Topic: BTC-e hacked ?? - page 109. (Read 199719 times)
I think this is just round robin dns
Definitely seems like someone is messing around. Seems like a good sign that it goes up and down, but still shows the same page when it's up.
what site - and it's gone
Error 525
Error 525
And back now. Seems to come up and down a bit with long delays. Last error I got was SSL Handshake Error, then SSL worked fine. Someone working on site settings, hopefully?
my thoughts exactly, someone is tinkering with the site last 1-2 hours
Well surprised to see this. But still just a maintenance notification page.
what site - and it's gone
Error 525
Error 525
And back now. Seems to come up and down a bit with long delays. Last error I got was SSL Handshake Error, then SSL worked fine. Someone working on site settings, hopefully?
what site - and it's gone
Error 525
Yup Error 525
what site - and it's gone
Error 525
Error 525
90%+ but he isn't alone there are more admins.
Is really Alexander Vinnik admin of btc-e or it is only a guess and rumor?
Couple things you're not taking into account here.
A large amount of their money has always been collected in crypto. They likely had millions of $ of crytpo 5 years ago, which means they likely have billions worth now.
You are assuming that all their money is made through fee's, and although that is a very nice amount of money, I'm sure they were doing their own trading as well and probably making at least as much off of that as they were making in fees
A large amount of their money has always been collected in crypto. They likely had millions of $ of crytpo 5 years ago, which means they likely have billions worth now.
You are assuming that all their money is made through fee's, and although that is a very nice amount of money, I'm sure they were doing their own trading as well and probably making at least as much off of that as they were making in fees
I'd venture a guess as to say that they might have been earning a lot more via their own "trading"
If we could of course call that trading at all (since milking the clients can hardly count as trading). I traded at this exchange using their api, and you could query the server only once per two seconds (otherwise you would be receiving cashed data). This is in fact a tremendous amount of time within which they could be safely doing all sorts of illegal tricks (illegal for regulated exchanges, obviously) massively front-running the orders of their clients and squeezing profits from every other trade without ever revealing themselves
What I have understood till now is: MtGox is involved in the btc-e downtime. My assumtion is: btc-e will be started up with a new design and will be called mtgox.com. Then finally LTC on MtGox.
Can someone tell me where the trollbox self-help group is?
Can someone tell me where the trollbox self-help group is?
It'd be kind of cool if they popped back up as a tor hidden service and became what the US says they already were.
That's the other thing. If you associate with criminals who launder millions of dollars and hold money for them and you also value your life, exit scamming when people know how to find you is very stupid. Criminals with resources don't have to worry about international treaties, extradition, due process, or even evidence. They should be more worried about that than the authorities with their fines and penalties really. A ripped of mobster will kill your family and make you watch before they kill you.
Some people said they could just run with the money as the best option. But if they are already named and duly registered then it will bring more doom for them then? Not unless they love playing hide and seek.
Ok that one guy has MtGox involvement allegations on him, but if the other admins would run with the money, they would be in even worse trouble. That's a big "money vs freedom" choice to make. I think anyone would prefer making "only" $200k/day more or less legally than getting millions but be on FBI's most wanted list or something like that
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they have to hide anyway.
Some people said they could just run with the money as the best option. But if they are already named and duly registered then it will bring more doom for them then? Not unless they love playing hide and seek.
honestly, to think that btce was the only loundering exchange for criminals is pure false. there is no such exchange, where shady individuals are not cashing out their stolen coins...
Couple things you're not taking into account here.
A large amount of their money has always been collected in crypto. They likely had millions of $ of crytpo 5 years ago, which means they likely have billions worth now.
You are assuming that all their money is made through fee's, and although that is a very nice amount of money, I'm sure they were doing their own trading as well and probably making at least as much off of that as they were making in fees.
They might be saying very little about the situation for the same reason you should shut up if the cops ever start investigating you. Anything you say can and will be used against you. Maybe they're just a little smarter than you think they are.
People would be wary at first and would take most of their money out, but they just need to stay around, and people would come back in even greater numbers, guaranteed.
Again, I'm just being pragmatic. I'm not counting on getting my money back. I would be cool though.
A large amount of their money has always been collected in crypto. They likely had millions of $ of crytpo 5 years ago, which means they likely have billions worth now.
You are assuming that all their money is made through fee's, and although that is a very nice amount of money, I'm sure they were doing their own trading as well and probably making at least as much off of that as they were making in fees.
They might be saying very little about the situation for the same reason you should shut up if the cops ever start investigating you. Anything you say can and will be used against you. Maybe they're just a little smarter than you think they are.
People would be wary at first and would take most of their money out, but they just need to stay around, and people would come back in even greater numbers, guaranteed.
Again, I'm just being pragmatic. I'm not counting on getting my money back. I would be cool though.
You assume they haven't saved any of the profits they made so far. They have been running for what, 5 years? Sure the profits increase with time, but they should easilly have made 2-300M during that time. Sure they have costs and have surely taken nice salaries for themselves, but I don't think they would start from 0. My guess is they are using the coins / funds from the site to play the market around aug 1, they could probably make a huge chunk of the cash back that way.
I honestly hope that is true and they can see this as just a setback that might costs them 1.5 years. Although personally I'm hoping they will just stay to be that "rogue" exchange everyone knew, maybe becoming more regulated is the best and perhaps the only way to stay alive.
BTC-e is a huge money maker for whoever is brave enough to run it. As long as the site isn't taken over by authorities, there's a huge incentive to come back. If they do come back they will recover public trust very quickly and more than ever before.
That's very wishful thinking, their reputation is shattered. First thing most people will do is try to withdraw their funds, if they're still even there.
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