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I don't want %45. Just give me my %55 coins and i run away and will never back to BTC-e scammer.
There needs to be an organized international class action against the FBI to recover the customer funds and other losses incurred.
Good luck trying to sue an arm of the U.S. government. Got about as much chance of success as Kim Jong-un winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
From the sound off it, the FBI have stolen a large sum of money from the citizens of the world that used the BTC-e crypto exchange.
That is a serious issue, with no clear avenue of response for the exchange customers.
There needs to be an organized international class action against the FBI to recover the customer funds and other losses incurred.
That is a serious issue, with no clear avenue of response for the exchange customers.
There needs to be an organized international class action against the FBI to recover the customer funds and other losses incurred.
The problem is the US civil forfiture laws. Basically they can seize anything they want even remotely connected to anyone suspected of a crime (even though they are NOT proven guilty) completely legal. AND they get to keep the money to fund their department (or whatever), which makes them fight HARD to keep it. You basically have to prove very convincingly that it's all legal. Also, as we "lent" out money to BTC-e for trading, it probably counts as their money, and if they are suspected of money laundry, the FBI will take it all and won't care if it's really other peoples money.
It would be nice to sue for the money back, but I think that's a REALLY slim chance.
Here are some (entertaining) info on civil forfiture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks
+1 The cash in and run types got pretty rekt on Bitfinex. If the BTC-E backer companies can get a handle on the legal side of things and sue the shit out of the US gov then there is a decent chance of holders getting full refund. Hellabetter than a 55% payoff
From the sound off it, the FBI have stolen a large sum of money from the citizens of the world that used the BTC-e crypto exchange.
That is a serious issue, with no clear avenue of response for the exchange customers.
There needs to be an organized international class action against the FBI to recover the customer funds and other losses incurred.
Do you have definite proof the FBI actually took the money?
+1 The cash in and run types got pretty rekt on Bitfinex. If the BTC-E backer companies can get a handle on the legal side of things and sue the shit out of the US gov then there is a decent chance of holders getting full refund. Hellabetter than a 55% payoff
From the sound off it, the FBI have stolen a large sum of money from the citizens of the world that used the BTC-e crypto exchange.
That is a serious issue, with no clear avenue of response for the exchange customers.
There needs to be an organized international class action against the FBI to recover the customer funds and other losses incurred.
given the latest update from btc-e, i've made a speculation thread for btc-e accounts in the marketplace forum: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-account-speculation-thread-2076499
please feel free to chime in. i'd love to get some thoughts on what people are pricing accounts at, given the percentage of immediate repayment proposed, and the bitfinex-like token scheme.
please feel free to chime in. i'd love to get some thoughts on what people are pricing accounts at, given the percentage of immediate repayment proposed, and the bitfinex-like token scheme.
Where I can unload all the shitcoins they will give me for my 55% fiat?
I mean nvc, nmc, ppc.
Any good exchanges?
I mean nvc, nmc, ppc.
Any good exchanges?
What do they have (USD):
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)
These were the BTC-e cold wallets before mixing started:
https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt
https://blockchain.info/address/19QzVvFZbHV4gcvmSYw3yup5RaBXgMeXay
They have at least 132.000 coins. This is more than 400 Million US$ + another 40 Million US$ in BTC Cash. They could easily pay the fine
with the winnings they made in the last 2 weeks by just holding the coins. There is for sure enough coins/fiat to refund everybody, but...
what can you do? KYC/AML is just a hazzle to keep even more coins. I am pretty sure the head of BTC-e ends up being a billionaire.
Well, that's the game. Verification is no problem for me... they got my data anyway, because I once lost my password. So I will get
a few bucks back. I hope each one in this forum will get his/her coins, too. Good luck everybody!
When client BTC goes up in value, they don't make any profit on client funds. They make $0.
You also forgot one small detail: Before they can pay the fine they must spend up to 55 years in jail.
You can simply contact the US government. They have like 45% of btc-e's funds now. Just provide them with necessary documents and I'm sure you can receive back what is rightfully yours.
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation
What legislation?
They will not work with fiat meaning they do not need kyc & aml.
They do not intend to pay the fine meaning they are doing another trick to escape the law.
They do not share any information about the real owners.
And after all this they want to comply kyc legislation?
It's very strange to say at least.
At a glance, it seems like good news, but I agree that this is puzzling and worrisome. Surely the launch of any new brand will have the same target on its back. I'm guessing the reason for KYC is to deter some darknet participants from claiming any funds, thus improving their balance sheets. I suppose this might already be priced into any proposed investment deal.
But handing over documents in this situation (even with completely legitimate funds from trading only) doesn't feel very good...
What do they have (USD):
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)
These were the BTC-e cold wallets before mixing started:
https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt
https://blockchain.info/address/19QzVvFZbHV4gcvmSYw3yup5RaBXgMeXay
They have at least 132.000 coins. This is more than 400 Million US$ + another 40 Million US$ in BTC Cash. They could easily pay the fine
with the winnings they made in the last 2 weeks by just holding the coins. There is for sure enough coins/fiat to refund everybody, but...
what can you do? KYC/AML is just a hazzle to keep even more coins. I am pretty sure the head of BTC-e ends up being a billionaire.
Well, that's the game. Verification is no problem for me... they got my data anyway, because I once lost my password. So I will get
a few bucks back. I hope each one in this forum will get his/her coins, too. Good luck everybody!
No I don't have to participate.
I was naive once to put my coins on a shady exchange, I won't be naive twice to send my documents to some unknown company registered in panama or something like this with a capital of 100 pounds.
What I can do is contact a lawyer and I will only send them my documents if the court of law will decide I have to.
You can simply contact the US government. They have like 45% of btc-e's funds now. Just provide them with necessary documents and I'm sure you can receive back what is rightfully yours.
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
The solution for you is simple, don't participate and you don't have to worry.
No I don't have to participate.
I was naive once to put my coins on a shady exchange, I won't be naive twice to send my documents to some unknown company registered in panama or something like this with a capital of 100 pounds.
What I can do is contact a lawyer and I will only send them my documents if the court of law will decide I have to.
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation
What legislation?
They will not work with fiat meaning they do not need kyc & aml.
They do not intend to pay the fine meaning they are doing another trick to escape the law.
They do not share any information about the real owners.
And after all this they want to comply kyc legislation?
It's very strange to say at least.
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
The solution for you is simple, don't participate and you don't have to worry.
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation
No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?
Hmmmm KYC, AML....
I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?
Nobody had to enter name. I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?
Well for registration there was surname and name
From 2012:
Here is a screenshot from June 2017:
I got verified and provided kyc as mostly coins were cheaper to buy on btc-e than elsewhere - so made sense from a funding perspective.
Hmmmm KYC, AML....
I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?
Nobody had to enter name. I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?
Well for registration there was surname and name
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